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Cuomo also sent thousands of elderly people to their deaths by forcing them back into nursing homes. And yes, I mean forcing. Do you remember the hospital shi

Cuomo also sent thousands of elderly people to their deaths by forcing them back into nursing homes. And yes, I mean forcing. Do you remember the hospital ship? The field hospitals? Javits center? Did you know the hospital ship went home after being almost completely unused? Did you know it treated IN TOTAL 182 people? With a crew of 1200 and 1000 available beds? Did you know that javits center never even got remotely close to full? In TOTAL in treated about 1000 patients and had 4000 beds. And yet he’s forcing these elderly back into nursing homes because it makes him look in charge, and fuels his idiotic feud he had going with the federal government over who was more leadery. He won an Emmy for it! Cuomo should be facing prison. The people who have been helping him cover up killing thousands of elderly people as a political play should as well. The fact that he was transferring state employees around so he could kiss them on the cheek and touch their face should get him disgraced and fired. It is absolutely a distraction from the horror he has inflicted upon thousands of people. Imagine him sending your grandmother to her death so that he could look good on television. Absolutely evil.

AzzieElbab 5y ago
Sadly the real scandal is that he was "following the science" at the given time and he wasnt the only official who did
- neartheplain 5y ago
  Whether Cuomo "followed the science" in his nursing home directive is debatable. From Wikipedia (see above link): >Cuomo repeatedly stated that the order was based on CDC guidance issued by the Trump administration. PolitiFact rated that statement as "mostly false" because the guidelines issued by the CDC and CMS indicated that a medically stable COVID-19 patient could be discharged from a hospital to a nursing home "only if the nursing home can implement all recommended infection control procedures."
  - AzzieElbab 5y ago
    What were the recommended infection control procedures? Disinfect surfaces and provide masks? Kind of a big deal was that the nursing homes mostly resisted but ultimately had to obey the order
- iammisc 5y ago
  Two things: 1. What he did went against published federal guidelines which state no transfers to nursing homes unless they have medical isolation wards 2. Why lie about it? Also contemporaneous with his policies, pundits like mark Levin (who broke this story) were calling him out on it only to be accused of spreading conspiracy
neartheplain 5y ago
For the doubters: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_York_COVID-19_nursing_home_scandal https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_York_COVID-19_nursing_home... >In January 2021, Attorney General of New York Letitia James released a report finding that Governor Andrew Cuomo had understated the toll of COVID-19-related deaths in state nursing homes by as much as 50 percent. The scandal was made public on February 11, 2021, when the New York Post reported that Melissa DeRosa, a secretary and aide to Cuomo, privately apologized to lawmakers for the administration withholding the nursing-home death toll in fear then-President Donald Trump would "turn this into a giant political football". >U.S. Attorney Seth DuCharme of the Eastern District of New York and the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) have launched an investigation into New York state's handling of nursing home deaths.
- tekknik 5y ago
  > withholding the nursing-home death toll in fear then-President Donald Trump would "turn this into a giant political football". When will the left calm down and realize this isn’t a war?
  - debacle 5y ago
    Conservative Trump voter here: Everyone who is watching the news thinks they're in a war with people who have slightly differing opinions than they do.
    - mooxie 5y ago
      Liberal Biden voter here: Totally. Everyone is absorbing media that spends 90% of its energy encouraging them to think that they're being attacked by the other half of the country. Both ends of the spectrum are encouraged to have a victim complex that makes them feel totally justified in their heinous behavior, because in their minds they're just defending themselves against the aggressor.
      - jfengel 5y ago
        It's kind of a self-fulfilling prophecy. I consume no media directly, but I get exposed to the victim complexes quite thoroughly here on HN. And from that I do indeed get the impression that I'm under attack.
ericb 5y ago
> Do you remember the hospital ship? The field hospitals? Javits center? Let's not mingle in choices that were reasonable given the best knowledge and advice from medical experts at the time along with crimes. I hate this binary thinking of "bad person did x, therefore x is bad too!"
- blacktriangle 5y ago
  They intentionally shoved COVID positive patients into nursing homes full of vulnerable elderly while simultainiously rejecting the large-scale help offered by the Fed. There's no grey area here, just pure evil. They did the same in PA too, the PA Health Secretary even removed his mother from a nursing home before implementing this policy.
  - ericb 5y ago
    You're proving my point. My comment was about "field hospitals, Javits center, and the hospital ship" which are all good safety precautions to protect the largest outbreak in the largest city in the country--just like the added safety of a seatbelt is good even on days you didn't get in an accident. Your response is about none of those things.
jaywalk 5y ago
It's a good thing the DOJ dropped the investigation into him and Whitmer over this at the end of last month. Evil and corrupt.
balozi 5y ago
Don't forget the 40,000 ventilators he demanded for his state (a claim he said was based on science and data no less).
- tomschlick 5y ago
  He then also criticized the Trump admin for not giving him that number even though they were giving him thousands already. 40k new ventilators didn't even exist at the time, there is no warehouse with tens of thousands of them, they were being built and distributed nationwide; but the media ate it up because orange man bad.
  - tw04 5y ago
    So you're talking about back in March of 2020 - when we did think ventilators would help. And at that point the federal government had sent a grand total of 400 ventilators to New York. But somehow managed to find 200 to send to Russia in May. And you can't figure out why he was complaining? https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/489214-cuomo-says-ny-needs-30000-ventilators-pleads-with-feds-for-help https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/489214-cuomo-says-n... https://www.cnbc.com/2020/05/20/us-sends-200-ventilators-to-russia-as-coronavirus-crisis-deepens.html https://www.cnbc.com/2020/05/20/us-sends-200-ventilators-to-...
    - tomschlick 5y ago
      > More than half the nearly 8,000 ventilators the federal stockpile sent to states to fight the coronavirus pandemic went to New York, while the rest were split among 14 other states and territories, a report from the federal government shows. https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/investigations/2020/04/10/rare-look-stockpile-shows-which-states-got-supplies-amid-covid/5126900002/ https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/investigations/2020/04/1...
      - zo1 5y ago
        I don't mean to be hyperbolic or off-topic, but wow, if this specific thread is anything to go by, I don't think we can have a nice society at all. We're like monkeys throwing feces around at eachother and can't even agree, after the fact, as to who threw the first batch or whether it was justified. All while another separate set of monkeys (media), with their own agendas, tell the rest of us stories and interpretations of said feces throwing. Who am I to believe here? Where are the facts? Who is being punished and fired and impeached and imprisoned after we evaluate the facts? Were laws broken? Should there be laws against some of these things?
psychlops 5y ago
He has the second highest covid death rate per capita, NJ's Phil Murphy beat him out (so far).
- e40 5y ago
  NY was ground zero in the US, so even without mismanagement it might have been the case. I work remotely with a Dr. in the Bronx and they were hit unbelievably hard early on. The hospital he worked at was surrounded with refrigeration trucks to store bodies.
- raxxorrax 5y ago
  To be fair, I don't think any politician could seriously influence that number. Crafting sensible policies helps a bit, but infection is a matter of chance and how people behave.
  - psychlops 5y ago
    Indeed, I am poking fun. The current narrative is that sensible policies are the only thing that matters, which leads to the obvious conclusion that there was failure that should be accounted for.
eplanit 5y ago
It was disgusting re: the ships and the Javits center. But, the rude refusal to use any of those (by both Cuomo and Newsom), solely because Trump provided them, was also one of the early revelations of the politicization of the pandemic.
- dtjb 5y ago
  Newsom repeatedly and publicly thanked Trump for the USNS Mercy. https://www.axios.com/gavin-newsom-trump-coronavirus-cnn-71e1aa95-39fa-4b77-8fd0-9fbba45014b8.html https://www.axios.com/gavin-newsom-trump-coronavirus-cnn-71e...
- standardUser 5y ago
  Before any of that happened, Trump was promising the pandemic would go away on its own, calling for less testing (implying either an astounding lack of intellect or something more nefarious) and he later admitted on a television interview he lied about the severity of the pandemic.
throwaway894345 5y ago
Yeah, and not a soul in the media or other most elsewhere cared until after the election. Indeed, CNN had his own brother interview him, even coaching him to maximize his appeal. The activist media is detestable.
- dtjb 5y ago
  I think CNN liked the brother vs. brother angle purely for entertainment value. The only activism they practice is what drives traffic.
  - throwaway894345 5y ago
    I don't doubt they make good money off of their activism, but let's not diminish the extent to which they are activist rather than journalist. These are the OG "mostly peaceful protest" folks[0], and this is only one of the more conspicuous on a long list of egregiously activist takes that they've produced in the last few years. [0]: https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/cnn-fiery-but-mostly-peaceful-protests-parodies https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/cnn-fiery-but-mostly-peaceful...
    - dtjb 5y ago
      I think activism implies service to an idealistic cause. I don't believe CNN has any idealistic causes, they're a capitalist firm servicing their market. I don't mean this as a defense of CNN in any way. They're clearly giving their audience what they want to hear which drives revenue, making them more of an entertainment company than a news company. But the problem of for-profit news is bigger than CNN.
      - throwaway894345 5y ago
        I'm not sure we can really separate activism from corporate greed in the context of the media. Typically you have a lot of rank and file journalists and editors who are activist and corporate leadership who have figured out how to monetize their employees ideological fervor. Moreover, as "activists" are rewarded financially for their commitment, they become greedy grifters rather than mere devotees of a toxic ideology (consider prominent activist-grifters such as Kendi or DiAngelo). Which is all to say that it seems not particularly worthwhile to try to distinguish between activists and grifters because it seems more like a spectrum than distinct categories and all positions on the spectrum are pretty equally toxic as far as I can tell (you're either propagating misinformation out of zeal or greed and one doesn't seem strictly better than the other).
gorbachev 5y ago
...and he made the nursing homes not liable for anything related to covid-19. That's super villain evilry. He repealed that law after becoming under federal investigation for it. This man is the perfect illustration of New York State politics. Corrupt to the core.
kordlessagain 5y ago
I’m glad I have a downvote button in this country.
- _-david-_ 5y ago
  Can you explain why you downvoted? Just making a snarky comment doesn't add anything to the conversation or explain why the post is incorrect or misleading.
  - kordlessagain 5y ago
    Calling someone snarky is snarky and HN ALWAYS downvotes comments about downvoting which means this is an echo chamber and basically a waste of time as your comment so well illustrates. My election votes do matter however and I may use them to downvote certain candidates which was the topic at hand.
eezurr 5y ago
He was not allowed to transfer covid patients to the ship. The captain/navy didnt want to deal with the cleaning/disinfecting after the fact. Tha javits center was for overflow, not first priority. Where else were the elderly supposed to go? This one i have no info on
- lordloki 5y ago
  Then you move non-infected folks out of hospitals or nursing homes onto the ship, then use the empty space for the covid patients. There were still ways to utilize the resources available in a much better and safer way.
- adolph 5y ago
  > The captain/navy didnt want to deal with the cleaning/disinfecting after the fact. That sounds weird, like they weren't going to clean up after non-COVID patients? Is there a cite on this claim?
  - Cd00d 5y ago
    Covid patients were not allowed on board the ship. This was reported at the time. On top of its strict rules preventing people infected with the virus from coming on board, the Navy is also refusing to treat a host of other conditions. Guidelines disseminated to hospitals included a list of 49 medical conditions that would exclude a patient from admittance to the ship. Ambulances cannot take patients directly to the Comfort; they must first deliver patients to a city hospital for a lengthy evaluation — including a test for the virus — and then pick them up again for transport to the ship. https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/02/nyregion/ny-coronavirus-usns-comfort.html https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/02/nyregion/ny-coronavirus-u...
  - heavyset_go 5y ago
    The ship's facilities were not meant for COVID patients, it was meant for patients who would go to a hospital if it wasn't full of COVID patients.
Alupis 5y ago
You forgot his "Best Selling" braggadocios book about how great he handled COVID-19, including his decision to send thousands of elderly to their deaths. It's one thing to make a policy blunder and deal with the consequences... It's another thing entirely to cover it up, lie, and suppress just to cling to power. Just reflect for a second... the media cooed at how great this man was and how he was going to be the next President. And now, he won't go down for killing thousands of elderly and the ensuing cover-up, no - he's going to go down (big maybe!) for being a sexual creep. What a world...
- vkou 5y ago
  > And now, he won't go down for killing thousands of elderly and the ensuing cover-up, no - he's going to go down (big maybe!) for being a sexual creep. A politician killing a few (hundred) thousand people is rarely that big a black mark on their legacy, especially among their supporters.
  - Alupis 5y ago
    People dying as a result of bad policy is one thing - people can hold the politician accountable at the ballot box (either next election or recall if bad enough). You can't always know a policy is bad before enacting it... that's just life. Covering it up though, makes that process impossible. Even when Cuomo realized this was a bad policy and was resulting in thousands of unnecessary deaths - he didn't reverse course... instead he doubled down, wrote a book, and won an Emmy - all while literally knowingly sending people to their deaths. The very fact that the conversation surrounding Cuomo nearly always is focused on sexual harassment means the cover-up worked, and he got away with it. Even now, as his own party (and the President himself) have turned their back to Cuomo, the conversation leaves out the cover-up. Cuomo got away with it, sold a ton of books, won an Emmy, and will have learned nothing other than to not get caught groping women again. Wow...
jasonlotito 5y ago
> Did you know the hospital ship went home after being almost completely unused? Did you know it treated IN TOTAL 182 people? With a crew of 1200 and 1000 available beds? That's probably because it wasn't sent originally to support COVID patients, and it wasn't until later that they opened up for COVID, and then left shortly after it had opened for COVID. Not sure about Javits.
raxxorrax 5y ago
> He won an Emmy for it! Isn't that a TV/movie price? For good acting?
- giancarlostoro 5y ago
  News reporters win Emmys too, they got varying categories.
paxys 5y ago
Let's not be hyperbolic. He may not have handled covid perfectly but there are dozens of governments and legislatures out there that literally made mask mandates and lockdowns illegal to implement. If he deserves prison what about them?
fareesh 5y ago
This story is generally not discussed openly because there's a silent acknowledgement amongst people that distasteful things were done from 2016-2020 for obvious reasons. Behind closed doors plenty of people say they think it's fine because the end goal was achieved.
Apotheos 5y ago
I believe the initial rehousing of elderly patients back into nursing elder care facilities predates the arrival of the hospital ship and the construction of the Javitz Center hospital and triage space. I'm ignorant on if this practice continued post arrival and construction of the added COVID treatment centers though.

AzzieElbab 5y ago

Sadly the real scandal is that he was "following the science" at the given time and he wasnt the only official who did

neartheplain 5y ago
Whether Cuomo "followed the science" in his nursing home directive is debatable. From Wikipedia (see above link): >Cuomo repeatedly stated that the order was based on CDC guidance issued by the Trump administration. PolitiFact rated that statement as "mostly false" because the guidelines issued by the CDC and CMS indicated that a medically stable COVID-19 patient could be discharged from a hospital to a nursing home "only if the nursing home can implement all recommended infection control procedures."
- AzzieElbab 5y ago
  What were the recommended infection control procedures? Disinfect surfaces and provide masks? Kind of a big deal was that the nursing homes mostly resisted but ultimately had to obey the order
iammisc 5y ago
Two things: 1. What he did went against published federal guidelines which state no transfers to nursing homes unless they have medical isolation wards 2. Why lie about it? Also contemporaneous with his policies, pundits like mark Levin (who broke this story) were calling him out on it only to be accused of spreading conspiracy

neartheplain 5y ago

For the doubters: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_York_COVID-19_nursing_home_scandal https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_York_COVID-19_nursing_home... >In January 2021, Attorney General of New York Letitia James released a report finding that Governor Andrew Cuomo had understated the toll of COVID-19-related deaths in state nursing homes by as much as 50 percent. The scandal was made public on February 11, 2021, when the New York Post reported that Melissa DeRosa, a secretary and aide to Cuomo, privately apologized to lawmakers for the administration withholding the nursing-home death toll in fear then-President Donald Trump would "turn this into a giant political football". >U.S. Attorney Seth DuCharme of the Eastern District of New York and the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) have launched an investigation into New York state's handling of nursing home deaths.

tekknik 5y ago
> withholding the nursing-home death toll in fear then-President Donald Trump would "turn this into a giant political football". When will the left calm down and realize this isn’t a war?
- debacle 5y ago
  Conservative Trump voter here: Everyone who is watching the news thinks they're in a war with people who have slightly differing opinions than they do.
  - mooxie 5y ago
    Liberal Biden voter here: Totally. Everyone is absorbing media that spends 90% of its energy encouraging them to think that they're being attacked by the other half of the country. Both ends of the spectrum are encouraged to have a victim complex that makes them feel totally justified in their heinous behavior, because in their minds they're just defending themselves against the aggressor.
    - jfengel 5y ago
      It's kind of a self-fulfilling prophecy. I consume no media directly, but I get exposed to the victim complexes quite thoroughly here on HN. And from that I do indeed get the impression that I'm under attack.

ericb 5y ago

> Do you remember the hospital ship? The field hospitals? Javits center? Let's not mingle in choices that were reasonable given the best knowledge and advice from medical experts at the time along with crimes. I hate this binary thinking of "bad person did x, therefore x is bad too!"

blacktriangle 5y ago
They intentionally shoved COVID positive patients into nursing homes full of vulnerable elderly while simultainiously rejecting the large-scale help offered by the Fed. There's no grey area here, just pure evil. They did the same in PA too, the PA Health Secretary even removed his mother from a nursing home before implementing this policy.
- ericb 5y ago
  You're proving my point. My comment was about "field hospitals, Javits center, and the hospital ship" which are all good safety precautions to protect the largest outbreak in the largest city in the country--just like the added safety of a seatbelt is good even on days you didn't get in an accident. Your response is about none of those things.

jaywalk 5y ago

It's a good thing the DOJ dropped the investigation into him and Whitmer over this at the end of last month. Evil and corrupt.

balozi 5y ago

Don't forget the 40,000 ventilators he demanded for his state (a claim he said was based on science and data no less).

tomschlick 5y ago
He then also criticized the Trump admin for not giving him that number even though they were giving him thousands already. 40k new ventilators didn't even exist at the time, there is no warehouse with tens of thousands of them, they were being built and distributed nationwide; but the media ate it up because orange man bad.
- tw04 5y ago
  So you're talking about back in March of 2020 - when we did think ventilators would help. And at that point the federal government had sent a grand total of 400 ventilators to New York. But somehow managed to find 200 to send to Russia in May. And you can't figure out why he was complaining? https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/489214-cuomo-says-ny-needs-30000-ventilators-pleads-with-feds-for-help https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/489214-cuomo-says-n... https://www.cnbc.com/2020/05/20/us-sends-200-ventilators-to-russia-as-coronavirus-crisis-deepens.html https://www.cnbc.com/2020/05/20/us-sends-200-ventilators-to-...
  - tomschlick 5y ago
    > More than half the nearly 8,000 ventilators the federal stockpile sent to states to fight the coronavirus pandemic went to New York, while the rest were split among 14 other states and territories, a report from the federal government shows. https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/investigations/2020/04/10/rare-look-stockpile-shows-which-states-got-supplies-amid-covid/5126900002/ https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/investigations/2020/04/1...
    - zo1 5y ago
      I don't mean to be hyperbolic or off-topic, but wow, if this specific thread is anything to go by, I don't think we can have a nice society at all. We're like monkeys throwing feces around at eachother and can't even agree, after the fact, as to who threw the first batch or whether it was justified. All while another separate set of monkeys (media), with their own agendas, tell the rest of us stories and interpretations of said feces throwing. Who am I to believe here? Where are the facts? Who is being punished and fired and impeached and imprisoned after we evaluate the facts? Were laws broken? Should there be laws against some of these things?

psychlops 5y ago

He has the second highest covid death rate per capita, NJ's Phil Murphy beat him out (so far).

e40 5y ago
NY was ground zero in the US, so even without mismanagement it might have been the case. I work remotely with a Dr. in the Bronx and they were hit unbelievably hard early on. The hospital he worked at was surrounded with refrigeration trucks to store bodies.
raxxorrax 5y ago
To be fair, I don't think any politician could seriously influence that number. Crafting sensible policies helps a bit, but infection is a matter of chance and how people behave.
- psychlops 5y ago
  Indeed, I am poking fun. The current narrative is that sensible policies are the only thing that matters, which leads to the obvious conclusion that there was failure that should be accounted for.

eplanit 5y ago

It was disgusting re: the ships and the Javits center. But, the rude refusal to use any of those (by both Cuomo and Newsom), solely because Trump provided them, was also one of the early revelations of the politicization of the pandemic.

dtjb 5y ago
Newsom repeatedly and publicly thanked Trump for the USNS Mercy. https://www.axios.com/gavin-newsom-trump-coronavirus-cnn-71e1aa95-39fa-4b77-8fd0-9fbba45014b8.html https://www.axios.com/gavin-newsom-trump-coronavirus-cnn-71e...
standardUser 5y ago
Before any of that happened, Trump was promising the pandemic would go away on its own, calling for less testing (implying either an astounding lack of intellect or something more nefarious) and he later admitted on a television interview he lied about the severity of the pandemic.

throwaway894345 5y ago

Yeah, and not a soul in the media or other most elsewhere cared until after the election. Indeed, CNN had his own brother interview him, even coaching him to maximize his appeal. The activist media is detestable.

dtjb 5y ago
I think CNN liked the brother vs. brother angle purely for entertainment value. The only activism they practice is what drives traffic.
- throwaway894345 5y ago
  I don't doubt they make good money off of their activism, but let's not diminish the extent to which they are activist rather than journalist. These are the OG "mostly peaceful protest" folks[0], and this is only one of the more conspicuous on a long list of egregiously activist takes that they've produced in the last few years. [0]: https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/cnn-fiery-but-mostly-peaceful-protests-parodies https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/cnn-fiery-but-mostly-peaceful...
  - dtjb 5y ago
    I think activism implies service to an idealistic cause. I don't believe CNN has any idealistic causes, they're a capitalist firm servicing their market. I don't mean this as a defense of CNN in any way. They're clearly giving their audience what they want to hear which drives revenue, making them more of an entertainment company than a news company. But the problem of for-profit news is bigger than CNN.
    - throwaway894345 5y ago
      I'm not sure we can really separate activism from corporate greed in the context of the media. Typically you have a lot of rank and file journalists and editors who are activist and corporate leadership who have figured out how to monetize their employees ideological fervor. Moreover, as "activists" are rewarded financially for their commitment, they become greedy grifters rather than mere devotees of a toxic ideology (consider prominent activist-grifters such as Kendi or DiAngelo). Which is all to say that it seems not particularly worthwhile to try to distinguish between activists and grifters because it seems more like a spectrum than distinct categories and all positions on the spectrum are pretty equally toxic as far as I can tell (you're either propagating misinformation out of zeal or greed and one doesn't seem strictly better than the other).

gorbachev 5y ago

...and he made the nursing homes not liable for anything related to covid-19. That's super villain evilry. He repealed that law after becoming under federal investigation for it. This man is the perfect illustration of New York State politics. Corrupt to the core.

kordlessagain 5y ago

I’m glad I have a downvote button in this country.

_-david-_ 5y ago
Can you explain why you downvoted? Just making a snarky comment doesn't add anything to the conversation or explain why the post is incorrect or misleading.
- kordlessagain 5y ago
  Calling someone snarky is snarky and HN ALWAYS downvotes comments about downvoting which means this is an echo chamber and basically a waste of time as your comment so well illustrates. My election votes do matter however and I may use them to downvote certain candidates which was the topic at hand.

eezurr 5y ago

He was not allowed to transfer covid patients to the ship. The captain/navy didnt want to deal with the cleaning/disinfecting after the fact. Tha javits center was for overflow, not first priority. Where else were the elderly supposed to go? This one i have no info on

lordloki 5y ago
Then you move non-infected folks out of hospitals or nursing homes onto the ship, then use the empty space for the covid patients. There were still ways to utilize the resources available in a much better and safer way.
adolph 5y ago
> The captain/navy didnt want to deal with the cleaning/disinfecting after the fact. That sounds weird, like they weren't going to clean up after non-COVID patients? Is there a cite on this claim?
- Cd00d 5y ago
  Covid patients were not allowed on board the ship. This was reported at the time. On top of its strict rules preventing people infected with the virus from coming on board, the Navy is also refusing to treat a host of other conditions. Guidelines disseminated to hospitals included a list of 49 medical conditions that would exclude a patient from admittance to the ship. Ambulances cannot take patients directly to the Comfort; they must first deliver patients to a city hospital for a lengthy evaluation — including a test for the virus — and then pick them up again for transport to the ship. https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/02/nyregion/ny-coronavirus-usns-comfort.html https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/02/nyregion/ny-coronavirus-u...
- heavyset_go 5y ago
  The ship's facilities were not meant for COVID patients, it was meant for patients who would go to a hospital if it wasn't full of COVID patients.

Alupis 5y ago

You forgot his "Best Selling" braggadocios book about how great he handled COVID-19, including his decision to send thousands of elderly to their deaths. It's one thing to make a policy blunder and deal with the consequences... It's another thing entirely to cover it up, lie, and suppress just to cling to power. Just reflect for a second... the media cooed at how great this man was and how he was going to be the next President. And now, he won't go down for killing thousands of elderly and the ensuing cover-up, no - he's going to go down (big maybe!) for being a sexual creep. What a world...

vkou 5y ago
> And now, he won't go down for killing thousands of elderly and the ensuing cover-up, no - he's going to go down (big maybe!) for being a sexual creep. A politician killing a few (hundred) thousand people is rarely that big a black mark on their legacy, especially among their supporters.
- Alupis 5y ago
  People dying as a result of bad policy is one thing - people can hold the politician accountable at the ballot box (either next election or recall if bad enough). You can't always know a policy is bad before enacting it... that's just life. Covering it up though, makes that process impossible. Even when Cuomo realized this was a bad policy and was resulting in thousands of unnecessary deaths - he didn't reverse course... instead he doubled down, wrote a book, and won an Emmy - all while literally knowingly sending people to their deaths. The very fact that the conversation surrounding Cuomo nearly always is focused on sexual harassment means the cover-up worked, and he got away with it. Even now, as his own party (and the President himself) have turned their back to Cuomo, the conversation leaves out the cover-up. Cuomo got away with it, sold a ton of books, won an Emmy, and will have learned nothing other than to not get caught groping women again. Wow...

jasonlotito 5y ago

> Did you know the hospital ship went home after being almost completely unused? Did you know it treated IN TOTAL 182 people? With a crew of 1200 and 1000 available beds? That's probably because it wasn't sent originally to support COVID patients, and it wasn't until later that they opened up for COVID, and then left shortly after it had opened for COVID. Not sure about Javits.

raxxorrax 5y ago

> He won an Emmy for it! Isn't that a TV/movie price? For good acting?

giancarlostoro 5y ago
News reporters win Emmys too, they got varying categories.

paxys 5y ago

Let's not be hyperbolic. He may not have handled covid perfectly but there are dozens of governments and legislatures out there that literally made mask mandates and lockdowns illegal to implement. If he deserves prison what about them?

fareesh 5y ago

This story is generally not discussed openly because there's a silent acknowledgement amongst people that distasteful things were done from 2016-2020 for obvious reasons. Behind closed doors plenty of people say they think it's fine because the end goal was achieved.

Apotheos 5y ago

I believe the initial rehousing of elderly patients back into nursing elder care facilities predates the arrival of the hospital ship and the construction of the Javitz Center hospital and triage space. I'm ignorant on if this practice continued post arrival and construction of the added COVID treatment centers though.