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> Great, you just made the first step and admitted yes there is at least one long term risk from covid infections. I picked a tiny one specifically because it w

by timr 5y ago

> Great, you just made the first step and admitted yes there is at least one long term risk from covid infections. I picked a tiny one specifically because it was so easy. I've never said anything different. I'm not sure what victory you think you've won. Some people will have long-term symptoms of Covid. Just like pretty much every other virus. Until I see some serious, well-controlled, high-quality data that shows me that there's an unprecedented risk for a lot of people, I'm not on board with taking unprecedented actions that affect everyone.

Retric 5y ago
> I've never said anything different. I'm not sure what victory you think you've won. You just said so in this thread: “ > A virus doesn't just enter your body, and quietly go away. Some do not. This one does.” No qualifications just absolute dismissal of all long term symptoms. > Until I see some serious, well-controlled, high-quality data that shows me there’s an unprecedented risk for a lot of people Sure, because the only evidence you can infer is that which you already agree with. Raising the bar arbitrarily isn’t science it’s a logical fallacy. However, the exact data you’re asking for is quite simply hospitalization rates. Severe cases of covid include the normal risks of severe viral infections, but it causes severe infections at significantly higher rates thus it also causes those normal complications at much higher rates. Along with it’s own unusual risks from blood clots causing all the things blood clots cause.
disgruntledphd2 5y ago
> Until I see some serious, well-controlled, high-quality data that shows me that there's an unprecedented risk for a lot of people, I'm not on board with taking unprecedented actions that affect everyone. What kind of evidence would convince you? Bear in mind (as I'm sure you know), it's gonna be very difficult to get accurate before and afters while in the midst of a pandemic, and it's likely that this evidence will only exist if enough people don't get one of the vaccines.

by timr 5y ago

Retric 5y ago

> I've never said anything different. I'm not sure what victory you think you've won. You just said so in this thread: “ > A virus doesn't just enter your body, and quietly go away. Some do not. This one does.” No qualifications just absolute dismissal of all long term symptoms. > Until I see some serious, well-controlled, high-quality data that shows me there’s an unprecedented risk for a lot of people Sure, because the only evidence you can infer is that which you already agree with. Raising the bar arbitrarily isn’t science it’s a logical fallacy. However, the exact data you’re asking for is quite simply hospitalization rates. Severe cases of covid include the normal risks of severe viral infections, but it causes severe infections at significantly higher rates thus it also causes those normal complications at much higher rates. Along with it’s own unusual risks from blood clots causing all the things blood clots cause.

disgruntledphd2 5y ago

> Until I see some serious, well-controlled, high-quality data that shows me that there's an unprecedented risk for a lot of people, I'm not on board with taking unprecedented actions that affect everyone. What kind of evidence would convince you? Bear in mind (as I'm sure you know), it's gonna be very difficult to get accurate before and afters while in the midst of a pandemic, and it's likely that this evidence will only exist if enough people don't get one of the vaccines.