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Anywhere where an ICU bed is taken by an unvaxxed COVID patient is a bed that was available for anyone else for any other reason. Anwhere where unvaxxed people

Anywhere where an ICU bed is taken by an unvaxxed COVID patient is a bed that was available for anyone else for any other reason. Anwhere where unvaxxed people have to take time out because they're sick is time they could have spent working, contributing towards their families or communities, and someone is going to have to take up the work. So not, at a collective level, unvaccinated people are _very much_ preventing others from enjoying themselves.

h_anna_h 5y ago
Don't put unvaxxed and these who were injured/became ill due to their own incompetence or recklessness in an ICU bed then? (as long as they are full that is) > and someone is going to have to take up the work. There is a lot of unemployment. This is also true for the paid and unpaid leaves btw, should we illegalise these?
- Daishiman 5y ago
  > There is a lot of unemployment. This is also true for the paid and unpaid leaves btw, should we illegalise these? If you are consistently taking leave because you puke your guts out every week from eating spoiled food, that wouldn't be much of an excuse for paid leave. I find the same is true for those who choose not to vaccinate. I do not find that to be a reasonable risk profile to accommodate in a consequence-free manner.
Clubber 5y ago
>Anywhere where an ICU bed is taken by an unvaxxed COVID patient is a bed that was available for anyone else for any other reason. They typically don't put COVID patients in the same vicinity as other patients for obvious reasons. There's usually a dedicated COVID wing.
goostavos 5y ago
Is that actually a compelling argument? How is an individual's choice which led to them occupying an ICU as a COVID patient worse than any other of their (presumably very dumb) individual choices? If we get to pick what we get to shame ICU bed occupancy for, I've got a LOT of other ideas that people probably won't like. By definition, society is made of up lots of interactions which prevent others from enjoying themselves. I struggle to understand why the line gets drawn at COVID.

h_anna_h 5y ago

Don't put unvaxxed and these who were injured/became ill due to their own incompetence or recklessness in an ICU bed then? (as long as they are full that is) > and someone is going to have to take up the work. There is a lot of unemployment. This is also true for the paid and unpaid leaves btw, should we illegalise these?

Daishiman 5y ago
> There is a lot of unemployment. This is also true for the paid and unpaid leaves btw, should we illegalise these? If you are consistently taking leave because you puke your guts out every week from eating spoiled food, that wouldn't be much of an excuse for paid leave. I find the same is true for those who choose not to vaccinate. I do not find that to be a reasonable risk profile to accommodate in a consequence-free manner.

Clubber 5y ago

>Anywhere where an ICU bed is taken by an unvaxxed COVID patient is a bed that was available for anyone else for any other reason. They typically don't put COVID patients in the same vicinity as other patients for obvious reasons. There's usually a dedicated COVID wing.

goostavos 5y ago

Is that actually a compelling argument? How is an individual's choice which led to them occupying an ICU as a COVID patient worse than any other of their (presumably very dumb) individual choices? If we get to pick what we get to shame ICU bed occupancy for, I've got a LOT of other ideas that people probably won't like. By definition, society is made of up lots of interactions which prevent others from enjoying themselves. I struggle to understand why the line gets drawn at COVID.