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As a potential law student how would you frame your argument against lockdowns in a world where trust in subject matter experts is down across the board (on bot

As a potential law student how would you frame your argument against lockdowns in a world where trust in subject matter experts is down across the board (on both side, pro and against lockdowns)?

jl2718 5y ago
Irrelevant. You’d have to find statute and precedent for the authorities required in enforcement. Law is not supposed to be rhetoric.
Covzire 5y ago
IANAPLS but I'd suggest looking into all the risks that are being completely ignored to chase the one risk that may not that be that big anymore, perhaps never was to warrant the first round of lockdowns to begin with. Who is profitting by keeping the public's focus on COVID like a laser beam and off everything else?
- cudgy 5y ago
  Amazon, Ebay, Facebook, Twitter, Google, CNN, Fox News, MSNBC, Pfizer, Moderna, …
lettergram 5y ago
There’s quite a few people I know as well who are considering going to school as well. The gist has been the same, the constitution doesn’t appear to be being followed and as a lawyer you have the ability to defend your rights. I’m not sure what caused this particular spike (a lot of alone time?) but I know a lot of people are feeling this way. In terms of an argument: 1st, 4th, 5th, 9th, 14th are amendments are clearly being violated in many regions. Further, given the risk profile of this disease (mitigation’s, high survival rate, etc), there’s no reasonable argument to abridge rights. Particularly, for a long period of time
- NotSammyHagar 5y ago
  Can you describe why you think the Constitution isn't being followed? That's kind of a generic argument. "People might believe something" without there being any rational basis for it.
  - lettergram 5y ago
    In CA and NY the Supreme Court ruled laws baring religious practices as unconstitutional for one. So, clearly there’s some issue there. In LA they were shutting off peoples utilities for not following mayoral edicts. The first amendment for peaceable assembly doesn’t go away — period — during time of crisis. Facebook has a portal setup where the CA Secretary of State is marking content to ban (court case is making its way through the federal circuits) Arguably, the 9th amendment is being violated as it related to vaccine passports. https://constitution.congress.gov/browse/essay/amdt9-2-1/ALDE_00000977/ https://constitution.congress.gov/browse/essay/amdt9-2-1/ALD... There is an absolute insane number of issues with the past year... I can go on and on
    - selimthegrim 5y ago
      The ninth amendment means whatever someone wants it to mean, Louisiana enforced quarantines in the 19th century but I never see that mentioned “The Constitution is not a suicide pact”
- staticman2 5y ago
  Anyone can hire a lawyer for money. A lawyer will happily argue whatever quirky take on the constitution you have, and happily bill you per hour as they lose in court. I think a gofundme funded by likeminded people to support your doomed lawsuits would be a lot more cost efficient than going to law school.
- kvathupo 5y ago
  You'd be surprised to learn that the 1st Amendment is the strongest it has ever been: I'd recommend reading Anthony Lewis's "Freedom for the Thought That We Hate." It covers how people were imprisoned for criticizing the government from as late as the early 1800s to the early 20th century in the United States. The power of the 1st Amendment is a new concept.

As a potential law student how would you frame your argument against lockdowns in a world where trust in subject matter experts is down across the board (on both side, pro and against lockdowns)?

jl2718 5y ago

Irrelevant. You’d have to find statute and precedent for the authorities required in enforcement. Law is not supposed to be rhetoric.

Covzire 5y ago

IANAPLS but I'd suggest looking into all the risks that are being completely ignored to chase the one risk that may not that be that big anymore, perhaps never was to warrant the first round of lockdowns to begin with. Who is profitting by keeping the public's focus on COVID like a laser beam and off everything else?

cudgy 5y ago
Amazon, Ebay, Facebook, Twitter, Google, CNN, Fox News, MSNBC, Pfizer, Moderna, …

lettergram 5y ago

There’s quite a few people I know as well who are considering going to school as well. The gist has been the same, the constitution doesn’t appear to be being followed and as a lawyer you have the ability to defend your rights. I’m not sure what caused this particular spike (a lot of alone time?) but I know a lot of people are feeling this way. In terms of an argument: 1st, 4th, 5th, 9th, 14th are amendments are clearly being violated in many regions. Further, given the risk profile of this disease (mitigation’s, high survival rate, etc), there’s no reasonable argument to abridge rights. Particularly, for a long period of time

NotSammyHagar 5y ago
Can you describe why you think the Constitution isn't being followed? That's kind of a generic argument. "People might believe something" without there being any rational basis for it.
- lettergram 5y ago
  In CA and NY the Supreme Court ruled laws baring religious practices as unconstitutional for one. So, clearly there’s some issue there. In LA they were shutting off peoples utilities for not following mayoral edicts. The first amendment for peaceable assembly doesn’t go away — period — during time of crisis. Facebook has a portal setup where the CA Secretary of State is marking content to ban (court case is making its way through the federal circuits) Arguably, the 9th amendment is being violated as it related to vaccine passports. https://constitution.congress.gov/browse/essay/amdt9-2-1/ALDE_00000977/ https://constitution.congress.gov/browse/essay/amdt9-2-1/ALD... There is an absolute insane number of issues with the past year... I can go on and on
  - selimthegrim 5y ago
    The ninth amendment means whatever someone wants it to mean, Louisiana enforced quarantines in the 19th century but I never see that mentioned “The Constitution is not a suicide pact”
staticman2 5y ago
Anyone can hire a lawyer for money. A lawyer will happily argue whatever quirky take on the constitution you have, and happily bill you per hour as they lose in court. I think a gofundme funded by likeminded people to support your doomed lawsuits would be a lot more cost efficient than going to law school.
kvathupo 5y ago
You'd be surprised to learn that the 1st Amendment is the strongest it has ever been: I'd recommend reading Anthony Lewis's "Freedom for the Thought That We Hate." It covers how people were imprisoned for criticizing the government from as late as the early 1800s to the early 20th century in the United States. The power of the 1st Amendment is a new concept.