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there's still an issue of consistency. if you can get "regular" hours... say, 6am-11am, M-T-W-Th, for example, you can schedule your life around it. 30 years

there's still an issue of consistency. if you can get "regular" hours... say, 6am-11am, M-T-W-Th, for example, you can schedule your life around it. 30 years ago, I managed a Burger King, and even then, they had us send people home if it got really slow, or.. call up people and cancel their shift an hour before, because of bad weather, etc. Someone's already arranged childcare or transportation for their shift, then cancelling it same day is just not a way to work. I would imagine that a lot of places are still like that today. $15/hr sounds great, but if it's 20 hrs one week, then 7 the next, then 24, then 4... that's still a bit unstable for a lot of folks. For someone who has no dependents, or has a stable partner... it's probably doable.

Dylan16807 5y ago
One of my dream labor reforms would be something like classifying any shifts that aren't scheduled at least two weeks in advance as overtime. It won't guarantee a steady number of hours but it will definitely help smooth things out and allow better planning.
- throwawayboise 5y ago
  Will you also commit to buying a Big Mac and Fries between 12:00 and 1:00pm on Tuesday two weeks hence? Also, I used to manage a McDonalds. Paying a bonus to have people come in on short notice to cover no-shows, sick calls, or unexpected business volume was not uncommon.
  - mgkimsal 5y ago
    That's a nice idea (short-notice bonus). 30 years ago, no one had cell phones, so even trying to get ahold of someone on 'short notice' wasn't really possible. But it would have been a nice gesture to balance out the times we'd send people home early.
- e12e 5y ago
  That is essentially the law in Norway - the work schedule need to be posted minimum two weeks in advance - and extra shifts should generally be considered overtime. Unfortunately it's probably one of the regulations that are most frequently broken. Norwegian link: https://www.arbeidstilsynet.no/regelverk/lover/arbeidsmiljoloven/10/10-3/ https://www.arbeidstilsynet.no/regelverk/lover/arbeidsmiljol...
  - adaml_623 5y ago
    So just to be clear if a company is not paying an employee the money they should be it is called wage theft. So if Norway were having the same issues with employee shortages you could add the reason that maybe the employees are tired of having the company steal from them. And maybe that's a factor common to other countries
JohnClark1337 5y ago
Yup. I worked for a company that was contracted out to spectrum for cable installs. You never knew what you were doing the next day, you were essentially on-call 24/7 (I told them upfront I wasn't working on Sundays and even then they would try to throw me jobs, but I left my work phone off). I couldn't plan for anything or have any kind of life outside of work. That company went under and I'm much better off now.

Dylan16807 5y ago

One of my dream labor reforms would be something like classifying any shifts that aren't scheduled at least two weeks in advance as overtime. It won't guarantee a steady number of hours but it will definitely help smooth things out and allow better planning.

throwawayboise 5y ago
Will you also commit to buying a Big Mac and Fries between 12:00 and 1:00pm on Tuesday two weeks hence? Also, I used to manage a McDonalds. Paying a bonus to have people come in on short notice to cover no-shows, sick calls, or unexpected business volume was not uncommon.
- mgkimsal 5y ago
  That's a nice idea (short-notice bonus). 30 years ago, no one had cell phones, so even trying to get ahold of someone on 'short notice' wasn't really possible. But it would have been a nice gesture to balance out the times we'd send people home early.
e12e 5y ago
That is essentially the law in Norway - the work schedule need to be posted minimum two weeks in advance - and extra shifts should generally be considered overtime. Unfortunately it's probably one of the regulations that are most frequently broken. Norwegian link: https://www.arbeidstilsynet.no/regelverk/lover/arbeidsmiljoloven/10/10-3/ https://www.arbeidstilsynet.no/regelverk/lover/arbeidsmiljol...
- adaml_623 5y ago
  So just to be clear if a company is not paying an employee the money they should be it is called wage theft. So if Norway were having the same issues with employee shortages you could add the reason that maybe the employees are tired of having the company steal from them. And maybe that's a factor common to other countries

JohnClark1337 5y ago

Yup. I worked for a company that was contracted out to spectrum for cable installs. You never knew what you were doing the next day, you were essentially on-call 24/7 (I told them upfront I wasn't working on Sundays and even then they would try to throw me jobs, but I left my work phone off). I couldn't plan for anything or have any kind of life outside of work. That company went under and I'm much better off now.