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You will not be a fan of recipe blogs anywhere on the internet.
by lanewinfield 5y ago
You will not be a fan of recipe blogs anywhere on the internet.
- SV_BubbleTime 5y agoThose have gotten way worse. It’s an SEO thing right?
- loa_in_ 5y agoClearly an attempt to lure you in when you're hungry and searching for some common queries like history of famous places.
- acdanger 5y agoI’ve assumed it was to create a longer page which can hold more ads.
- kortilla 5y agoRecipes by themselves aren’t copyrightable. Bullshit stories are.
- mandelbrotwurst 5y agoDoes copyright for a story containing a recipe protect against use of the recipe outside the context of the story?
- numpad0 5y agoI think the question is “is it possible to split recipe from BS story programmatically”
- CrazyStat 5y agoGenerally yes. Most recipe blogs use semantic markup so that Google recognizes it as a recipe, which also makes it easy to scrape programmatically.
- CrazyStat 5y agoNo
- lbotos 5y agoNo, but it stops straight scraping, and requires a scraper to do a little bit more work to copy the recipe.
- kwhitefoot 5y agoNot much extra work surely. Most recipes are on sites that use the same template for every recipe so it's pretty easy for a scraper to find the ingredients and method. The structure is usually even labelled with meaningful class names on the elements.
- eps 5y agoIt's viewed as a DRM measure. Recipes are not copyrightable unless they are attached to a story. It's probably an urban legend, but can't blame poor food bloggers from acting on it.
- compiler-guy 5y agoIt's not an urban legend in the United States: ==== Based on this reasoning, the United States Copyright Office Compendium, the Office’s manual for examiners, states that a mere listing of ingredients or contents is not copyrightable, as lists are not protected by copyright law (chapter 314.4(F)). The Office has also stated that a “simple set of directions” is uncopyrightable. In addition, courts have found that recipes are wholly factual and functional, and therefore uncopyrightable. As the Sixth Circuit described in Tomaydo-Tomahdo, LLC v. Vozary, “the list of ingredients is merely a factual statement, and as previously discussed, facts are not copyrightable. Furthermore, a recipe’s instructions, as functional directions, are statutorily excluded from copyright protection.” https://copyrightalliance.org/are-recipes-cookbooks-protected-by-copyright/ https://copyrightalliance.org/are-recipes-cookbooks-protecte...
- AlexCoventry 5y agoI would have thought the same reasoning would apply to software. I'm curious about how reasoning differs in that case.
- Octoth0rpe 5y agoI have to think part of it is also the pay structure of food bloggers being paid by the word.
- Bjartr 5y agoI'm pretty sure recipes aren't copyrightable, even when they are attached to a story.
- yencabulator 5y agoI'd assume it prevents legally scraping & copying the whole site, at the cost of a silly amount of human labor writing the fluff.
- jbc1 5y agoI just think they're part of the non-fiction fantasy genre of entertainment alongside cooking, travel, and house buying + renovating shows. They're ostensibly informational, but 99% of people consuming them aren't genuinely looking to cook the thing, travel to the place, or buy and renovate a house.
- mappu 5y agoYes - it's not specifically that the recipe sites have changed to do this, but rather, that Google is preferring to show you sites that are doing this.
- mchusma 5y agoRecipe for french toast: Step 1: Learn the history of France Step 2: learn the history of toast Step 3: heat bread, eggs, milk in a pan
- joezydeco 5y agoKeep going. The ingredient list is on page 12. One time I inadvertently hit print on a recipe like this and the print dialog estimated 45 pages.
- mcintyre1994 5y agoYou forgot the history of the writer’s family and the impact that French toast has had on them for generations.
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- quintin 5y agoMost recipe blogposts these days have jump to recipe.
- rognjen 5y agoThe mitigating factor for recipes is you can just scroll down till you see a table.
- human 5y agoThat hits so close to home. I’ve given up searching for recipes online because of this. And I’m not even mentionning all the ads you have to scroll through.
- christophilus 5y agoBlogs in general, I’d say. As for recipe sites: https://based.cooking/ https://based.cooking/ That is where it’s at.
- iratewizard 5y agoThis is fantastic
- doctor_eval 5y agoSqueal emoji
- slimsag 5y agoBoy oh boy do I have the recipe for you! http://slimsag.com/best-apache-chef-recipe/1438731.htm http://slimsag.com/best-apache-chef-recipe/1438731.htm
- dreamcompiler 5y agoThis made my day.
- tomp 5y agoSeriousEats. It’s truly amazing. Most of their recipes are split into two pages, one is just ingredients+steps, and the other is a “story” - but not an irrelevant story of a person, dish, or how it tastes on a warm summer day, but instead it lists different experiments the author tested, results, dispels common myths, …
- dreamcompiler 5y agoI want an AI browser plugin just for recipe sites called GTTP (Get To The Point). Probably could build it with regex, actually.