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I really dislike this writing structure of "before I get to the point, let me tell you a story about my life" Edit: I'm not alone, https://style.mla.org/dont-b
by okareaman 5y ago
I really dislike this writing structure of "before I get to the point, let me tell you a story about my life"
Edit: I'm not alone, https://style.mla.org/dont-bury-the-lede/ https://style.mla.org/dont-bury-the-lede/
- jszymborski 5y agoMaybe I'm off base here, as it's no small feat by any means, but it's especially jarring to read when "first-website-building-SaaS" has so little to do with industrial robotics at its surface.
- ManBlanket 5y agoI had a similar impression. It was jarring to say the least and made me ask so many questions that had nothing to do with the story. Does this person lead every tech related conversation with, "When I was the CEO of Moonbeans, the world's first SAAS blockchain beanbag chair crowd sourcing platform" just to buy some credibility? Why do they feel the need to tell us that? Do they have inadequacy issues or is it the opposite? I can barely remember what that article was about. Robotics? Oh, right, shame it's an Alphabet subsidiary. It's bound to end up in the Google graveyard when it fails to be one of the top 10 most profitable companies in the world. Even if they do great things and make a great product, it's the fate which will inevitably follow most of Alphabet's projects until the SEC breaks them up, this being one of many good reasons.
- lanewinfield 5y agoYou will not be a fan of recipe blogs anywhere on the internet.
- SV_BubbleTime 5y agoThose have gotten way worse. It’s an SEO thing right?
- loa_in_ 5y agoClearly an attempt to lure you in when you're hungry and searching for some common queries like history of famous places.
- acdanger 5y agoI’ve assumed it was to create a longer page which can hold more ads.
- kortilla 5y agoRecipes by themselves aren’t copyrightable. Bullshit stories are.
- mandelbrotwurst 5y agoDoes copyright for a story containing a recipe protect against use of the recipe outside the context of the story?
- numpad0 5y agoI think the question is “is it possible to split recipe from BS story programmatically”
- CrazyStat 5y agoGenerally yes. Most recipe blogs use semantic markup so that Google recognizes it as a recipe, which also makes it easy to scrape programmatically.
- CrazyStat 5y agoNo
- lbotos 5y agoNo, but it stops straight scraping, and requires a scraper to do a little bit more work to copy the recipe.
- mchusma 5y agoRecipe for french toast: Step 1: Learn the history of France Step 2: learn the history of toast Step 3: heat bread, eggs, milk in a pan
- joezydeco 5y agoKeep going. The ingredient list is on page 12. One time I inadvertently hit print on a recipe like this and the print dialog estimated 45 pages.
- mcintyre1994 5y agoYou forgot the history of the writer’s family and the impact that French toast has had on them for generations.
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- quintin 5y agoMost recipe blogposts these days have jump to recipe.
- rognjen 5y agoThe mitigating factor for recipes is you can just scroll down till you see a table.
- human 5y agoThat hits so close to home. I’ve given up searching for recipes online because of this. And I’m not even mentionning all the ads you have to scroll through.
- christophilus 5y agoBlogs in general, I’d say. As for recipe sites: https://based.cooking/ https://based.cooking/ That is where it’s at.
- iratewizard 5y agoThis is fantastic
- doctor_eval 5y agoSqueal emoji
- slimsag 5y agoBoy oh boy do I have the recipe for you! http://slimsag.com/best-apache-chef-recipe/1438731.htm http://slimsag.com/best-apache-chef-recipe/1438731.htm
- dreamcompiler 5y agoThis made my day.
- tomp 5y agoSeriousEats. It’s truly amazing. Most of their recipes are split into two pages, one is just ingredients+steps, and the other is a “story” - but not an irrelevant story of a person, dish, or how it tastes on a warm summer day, but instead it lists different experiments the author tested, results, dispels common myths, …
- dreamcompiler 5y agoI want an AI browser plugin just for recipe sites called GTTP (Get To The Point). Probably could build it with regex, actually.
- skybrian 5y agoI like inverted pyramid style too, but it’s a very brief intro and letting the CEO of a new company introduce themselves doesn’t seem so bad? You could skip the first paragraph.
- yunohn 5y agoThere is literally just one short paragraph of personal intro by the CEO, before getting the “plot”.
- okareaman 5y agoI'm not trying to be disagreeable, but... > Intrinsic is working to unlock the creative and economic potential of industrial robotics ...is under the fold, under two paragraphs and an image
- yunohn 5y agoThe “second” paragraph is one sentence, and announces Instrinsic. Having an image is not something I would consider wrong either.
- ignoramous 5y agoCan we blame that on the-most-important-job-of-a-leader-is-to-tell-an-inspiring-story narrative prevalent in the tech world? https://www.youtube-nocookie.com/embed/nh3ubp0nRaw https://www.youtube-nocookie.com/embed/nh3ubp0nRaw
- themolecularman 5y agoI dislike this story in journalism and podcasts too. I listen to a lot of true crime podcasts: > Before Y was murdered, they lived in X. X is a quiet town, the type of place where you don't need to lock your doors. Y has a happy upbringing collecting flowers along the river at... Like we get it, this is the first half of every 1-hour long true-crime podcast. Also quite often the first half of every long-form article.
- mkwarman 5y agoI don't mind it as much in true crime podcasts when it's done well. Totally agree that the generic "it was a peaceful town where nobody locked their doors blah blah blah" can get old quickly. But hearing about the unique lives of the victims in murder cases can definitely add to the story. And in podcasts more focused on the investigative side (ex. Someone Knows Something) knowing the background info can even be critical to solving the puzzle so to speak.
- gadabout 5y agoAgree, also podcasts in that genre are often more about "story telling" (which requires - dun duh dun - backstory), but articles do not. I do not mind 5 minutes of backstory on a 60 minute podcast. I do mind 2 minutes of backstory on a 5 minute read.
- Olumde 5y agoOh gosh I hate this about wondery business wars[0]. Very informative but also very annoying when they conjure up complete/narrated conversations between people e.g. a tech CEO and an investor or customer. This happens a LOT in the show. I'm like, "you weren't there man!!!" PS: I'm not the only one who thinks wondery shows are "overproduced" https://www.reddit.com/r/TrueCrimePodcasts/comments/byk8ix/does_anyone_else_think_wondery_shows_are_way/ https://www.reddit.com/r/TrueCrimePodcasts/comments/byk8ix/d... [0] https://wondery.com/shows/business-wars/ https://wondery.com/shows/business-wars/
- SN76477 5y ago"On a cold autumn day in Brooklyn a young child crosses the street with his parents." How every NPR story about criminal justice starts.
- khazhoux 5y agoI can understand why the style may seem offputting, but the thing to understand is that it has been traditionally very hard to engage with the public on this topic of robotic advancement. In fact, I know a bit about this myself, having been in the robotics space for over a decade. But my own struggles in the field only reflect a longer trend, which I can even trace back to my grandfather. Growing up in a strict Lutheran household in the southwest England town of Flenkelshire, Elias Nathaniel "Kazoo" Pendleton III did not immediately stand out among his peers. Born with dull red hair, one leg three inches shorter than the other, and shoulders that somehow resembled cornish hens, young Elias was a frequent target for the town bullies. A child at that time has only three options: fight harder, run faster, or invent some kind of device that would enable him to escape his tormentors. Luckily (by chance or by fate), Flenkelshire was home to a radio-electronics store, Bundleron's Radio and Horseshoe Supplies, which gave young Elias just the right ingredients to hatch his escape plan. And hatch a plan he did, though it would take twenty years for the town to understand exactly what had happened. The first trap was set in the Fall of 1951. Winston Churchill had returned to power. The Festival of Britain had just wrapped up and lit the imagination of attendees and non-attendees alike. And Elias Nathaniel "Kazoo" Pendleton III, now well-armed with a stock of electronics, metalwork, and several years of intense study, went into action...
- systemvoltage 5y agoAh, it’s refreshing to see some comedy in this politically enraged atmosphere. Thanks for the laugh on a rather dim Friday for me.
- khazhoux 5y agotips hat
- breakfastbar 5y agoBravo
- acevesj 5y agoI knew this was going nowhere and still read through it with excitement
- m3kw9 5y agoYes, but I just skip the bs and scrolled to the point.
- andrew_ 5y agoThis is really making me rethink my penchant for "the backstory." I'm so guilty of that so so often.
- addicted 5y agoIt’s a blog. Not a journalistic article. The whole point of a blog is to be a personal log.
- rognjen 5y agoThat's exactly why I'm in the comments looking for a TLDR
- ramoz 5y agoI didnt read the article.I wont read the comments. But I will spend time telling you "yupp"... theres some izsue here other than your comment.
- bubblethink 5y agoOff-Topic: I would recommend aspiring writers to read, or better still, write, academic papers. Once you get the hang of what makes a good paper, it helps with all forms of non-fiction writing.
- baxtr 5y agoI hat this too. Especially for newsletters. They tease you with an interesting headline and then let you scan the entire thing to find maybe just a link to the topic teased.
- mongol 5y agoHow is lede pronounced? Like lead?
- kwhitefoot 5y agoAnd how is lead pronounced? Like lede?
- _Understated_ 5y agoI believe you say it like "leed"
- grey_earthling 5y agoWhen typesetting a printed newspaper, the leading (pronounced like “ledding”) is the space between lines of text, originally physical strips of lead (Pb). The lede (“leed”) is the most important statement in the story. The word comes from “lead” (also pronounced “leed”), because it's the statement that everything else should follow. It's conventionally spelt differently to avoid confusion with “leading”.
- ugh123 5y agoI agree. First two paragraphs are completely irrelevant and offer no support to the actual topic. Just flexing on career. Kinda sounded like typical LinkedIn content these days