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Sigh.. 17 years of Google in the US. I am sure you can easily retire. With style, too. Being in Europe, I envy silicon valley engineers.

AndrewDucker 5y ago
He mentions moving to a new company.
- ionwake 5y ago
  What would the net worth be of someone who has been at google for 10 years?
  - valleyer 5y ago
    1 to 10 million dollars, depending on compensation and money management skills.
  - filoleg 5y ago
    Impossible to answer such a broad question without knowing specifics of that particular situation, as it is heavily dependent on the person's pay/career trajectory at Google (which, from my experience, can differ wildly even for the same levels), spending habits, how they invested what they haven't spent, their family situation (single? married with 2 kids? supporting parents?), how much debt they had prior to joining and how fast they paid it off, etc. It can be anything from "multiple houses, cars, quickly growing investment portfolio, and etc." to "barely anything aside from a few months worth of salary in the savings account". The latter seems extremely unlikely though, most people hover somewhere in-between those two extremes. For example, look at some engineers who worked at Google's self-driving division/Waymo. From the court papers (from that trial where the lead was accused of taking the proprietary info to Uber's self-driving division), it was mentioned that some of them got paid like $10mil/yr. This is in a completely different ballpark, compared to what most of engineers at Google make. Just goes to show the wild variation in pay, which makes it difficult to estimate without knowing the details.
Proven 5y ago
LOL - what retirement??? I'm quite sure 99% of people like this guy want to create, not waste their time doing nothing, and don't care about luxury lifestyle. And being in Europe, perhaps you should put some effort in disliking the leading cause of your relatively lower pay (that is, your system of government and the EU), rather than envy a 0.01%-er like this guy. "In accordance with the most widely accepted views, only pride weighs down the soul more than envy among the capital sins." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seven_deadly_sins#Envy https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seven_deadly_sins#Envy
nivenkos 5y ago
Yeah, in Europe your only real options are moving to the US, working remotely in a cheaper location in Europe (perhaps even as a contractor to the US), or working for a company/country with a better work balance and just fitting your life around work. I've done the latter two and it's worked out okay, but I still don't own a home even after 7 years working (and some of that for FAANG). But I think Americans really don't understand how different Europe is. Programming is barely a white-collar job here vs. Law or Real Estate, etc. and the quality of life is just lower (less car ownership, much smaller homes without swimming pools or air conditioning, tiny kitchens without garbage disposal, American fridge-freezers or dishwashers, etc.) The Tech Bro memes don't apply here.
- Aeolun 5y ago
  > less car ownership, much smaller homes without swimming pools or air conditioning, tiny kitchens without garbage disposal, American fridge-freezers or dishwashers I’m not sure I’d conflate less material goods with lesser quality of life. I think the quality of life is objectively better in most of (western) Europe. Maybe for software engineers in specific it’s worse.
  - oblio 5y ago
    > I’m not sure I’d conflate less material goods with lesser quality of life. He's not conflating fewer material goods with lower quality of life. He's conflating lack of things which provide life experiences with lower quality of life. Not having AC absolutely sucks when the weather's over 30. Not having a house with a backyard and a swimming pool means you can't have people over for a pool party (experience, not material good). Etc.
    - wccrawford 5y ago
      I'm with you on AC, but not the pool. That's an expensive, time-consuming luxury. (Or even more expensive, if you pay someone else to maintain it.) The occasional pool-party could be had elsewhere (community pool? neighbor's pool?), or even at the beach instead. If you kept on that line of logic, a PlayStation 5 and an espresso machine are also "not material goods" and are ways to create experiences, and I can't actually tell where that line of thought stops.

AndrewDucker 5y ago

He mentions moving to a new company.

ionwake 5y ago
What would the net worth be of someone who has been at google for 10 years?
- valleyer 5y ago
  1 to 10 million dollars, depending on compensation and money management skills.
- filoleg 5y ago
  Impossible to answer such a broad question without knowing specifics of that particular situation, as it is heavily dependent on the person's pay/career trajectory at Google (which, from my experience, can differ wildly even for the same levels), spending habits, how they invested what they haven't spent, their family situation (single? married with 2 kids? supporting parents?), how much debt they had prior to joining and how fast they paid it off, etc. It can be anything from "multiple houses, cars, quickly growing investment portfolio, and etc." to "barely anything aside from a few months worth of salary in the savings account". The latter seems extremely unlikely though, most people hover somewhere in-between those two extremes. For example, look at some engineers who worked at Google's self-driving division/Waymo. From the court papers (from that trial where the lead was accused of taking the proprietary info to Uber's self-driving division), it was mentioned that some of them got paid like $10mil/yr. This is in a completely different ballpark, compared to what most of engineers at Google make. Just goes to show the wild variation in pay, which makes it difficult to estimate without knowing the details.

Proven 5y ago

LOL - what retirement??? I'm quite sure 99% of people like this guy want to create, not waste their time doing nothing, and don't care about luxury lifestyle. And being in Europe, perhaps you should put some effort in disliking the leading cause of your relatively lower pay (that is, your system of government and the EU), rather than envy a 0.01%-er like this guy. "In accordance with the most widely accepted views, only pride weighs down the soul more than envy among the capital sins." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seven_deadly_sins#Envy https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seven_deadly_sins#Envy

nivenkos 5y ago

Yeah, in Europe your only real options are moving to the US, working remotely in a cheaper location in Europe (perhaps even as a contractor to the US), or working for a company/country with a better work balance and just fitting your life around work. I've done the latter two and it's worked out okay, but I still don't own a home even after 7 years working (and some of that for FAANG). But I think Americans really don't understand how different Europe is. Programming is barely a white-collar job here vs. Law or Real Estate, etc. and the quality of life is just lower (less car ownership, much smaller homes without swimming pools or air conditioning, tiny kitchens without garbage disposal, American fridge-freezers or dishwashers, etc.) The Tech Bro memes don't apply here.

Aeolun 5y ago
> less car ownership, much smaller homes without swimming pools or air conditioning, tiny kitchens without garbage disposal, American fridge-freezers or dishwashers I’m not sure I’d conflate less material goods with lesser quality of life. I think the quality of life is objectively better in most of (western) Europe. Maybe for software engineers in specific it’s worse.
- oblio 5y ago
  > I’m not sure I’d conflate less material goods with lesser quality of life. He's not conflating fewer material goods with lower quality of life. He's conflating lack of things which provide life experiences with lower quality of life. Not having AC absolutely sucks when the weather's over 30. Not having a house with a backyard and a swimming pool means you can't have people over for a pool party (experience, not material good). Etc.
  - wccrawford 5y ago
    I'm with you on AC, but not the pool. That's an expensive, time-consuming luxury. (Or even more expensive, if you pay someone else to maintain it.) The occasional pool-party could be had elsewhere (community pool? neighbor's pool?), or even at the beach instead. If you kept on that line of logic, a PlayStation 5 and an espresso machine are also "not material goods" and are ways to create experiences, and I can't actually tell where that line of thought stops.