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I also think the network, as proposed is a problem. It only seems useful if you're Paris based, since this appears to be the center node of the network. edit:

I also think the network, as proposed is a problem. It only seems useful if you're Paris based, since this appears to be the center node of the network. edit: This at least appears to be the case for the French startup mentioned and the map displayed at the very top of the article.

ginko 5y ago
Well, that's France for you. The ÖBB Nightjet network is a lot less centralized: https://www.nightjet.com/dam/jcr:6a8041cb-0131-4ad3-84fd-25154548e5dd/nightjet-streckennetz-deutsch.pdf https://www.nightjet.com/dam/jcr:6a8041cb-0131-4ad3-84fd-251...
- emteycz 5y ago
  ÖBB trains (even the ones reaching Czechia under Czech Railways brand) are super-good experience.
  - izacus 5y ago
    Yep, can confirm, using the Nightjet was surprisingly comfortable. The biggest issue is that they tend to be booked up weeks in advance so getting a slot in private compartment is pretty hard.
    - cromka 5y ago
      Which is a good problem to be had right now, from a citizen’s perspective. Proves there’s a market for these trains and we can only expect more of them coming.
- yohannparis 5y ago
  This startup is not from the SNCF (national railroad), it's not comparable in terms of service with another national railroad. I'd love to see the project including ÖBB, SBB, & SNCF!
Scoundreller 5y ago
> It only seems useful if you're Paris based, since this appears to be the center node of the network That’s France’s rail network in a nutshell. It’s great, if your trip starts or ends in Paris. If you’re not, you might still go through Paris and driving could be faster than a high-speed train. The other issue with domestic sleeper networks in France, other than sounding like a terrorist, is that high speed trains usually take 3-4h anyway. I think the only takers for an overnight equivalent would be tourists that can save a night of stay somewhere. And that’s if you’re not staying with family or friends. And the trains are almost all electric, so it’s harder to make an argument for “slower, therefore less carbon burn”.

ginko 5y ago

Well, that's France for you. The ÖBB Nightjet network is a lot less centralized: https://www.nightjet.com/dam/jcr:6a8041cb-0131-4ad3-84fd-25154548e5dd/nightjet-streckennetz-deutsch.pdf https://www.nightjet.com/dam/jcr:6a8041cb-0131-4ad3-84fd-251...

emteycz 5y ago
ÖBB trains (even the ones reaching Czechia under Czech Railways brand) are super-good experience.
- izacus 5y ago
  Yep, can confirm, using the Nightjet was surprisingly comfortable. The biggest issue is that they tend to be booked up weeks in advance so getting a slot in private compartment is pretty hard.
  - cromka 5y ago
    Which is a good problem to be had right now, from a citizen’s perspective. Proves there’s a market for these trains and we can only expect more of them coming.
yohannparis 5y ago
This startup is not from the SNCF (national railroad), it's not comparable in terms of service with another national railroad. I'd love to see the project including ÖBB, SBB, & SNCF!

Scoundreller 5y ago

> It only seems useful if you're Paris based, since this appears to be the center node of the network That’s France’s rail network in a nutshell. It’s great, if your trip starts or ends in Paris. If you’re not, you might still go through Paris and driving could be faster than a high-speed train. The other issue with domestic sleeper networks in France, other than sounding like a terrorist, is that high speed trains usually take 3-4h anyway. I think the only takers for an overnight equivalent would be tourists that can save a night of stay somewhere. And that’s if you’re not staying with family or friends. And the trains are almost all electric, so it’s harder to make an argument for “slower, therefore less carbon burn”.