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Show HN: Hacker News-ish stock news, from 40+ sources
- tgdn 5y agoNice product! Great job! I think this can be pretty useful. What do you use to get the news/aggregates ? Any specific API? Is it open source? And is the sentiment only based on title? I built a similar product not long ago, would love to see how how it's built and perhaps contribute :)
- mjmasia 5y agoThanks, much appreciated! I'm glad you find it somewhat useful :) Honestly, it was super simple to put together; I pull data from https://stocknewsapi.com https://stocknewsapi.com, which I've found to be very high quality and reliable (I'm using their sentiment classifications as well, so not exactly sure what model is behind that). The project isn't currently open source, but I'm definitely considering it. I built it with Elixir + Phoenix, with a couple main objectives: - Familiarize myself with Tailwind - Set up a really smooth developer experience - Learn about deploying Elixir + Phoneix apps - Build something of some use! I'd love to see your project as well – happy to discuss more!
- scottydelta 5y agohey checkout my similar project at https://quantale.io/dashboard/latest-news https://quantale.io/dashboard/latest-news, any feedback is appreciated. thanks
- giantg2 5y agoI shall try it and then complain to you when I don't have a Lambo next week. /sarcasm Looks good.
- anonu 5y agohttps://alltop.com/ https://alltop.com/
- twobitshifter 5y agoReuters links are all dead and seem to be very old
- marban 5y agoI was the original inventor of Popurls (which Guy Kawasaki cloned as Alltop). Popurls is dead after I sold it to Idealab some ten years a go but I've recently come up with https://upstract.com https://upstract.com
- Datagenerator 5y agoThanks
- anonu 5y agoYou need commentary
- hardwaresofton 5y agoI'd go the other way, please don't add commentary and a good way to monetize this kind of site would be to charge for access to a separate related forum/discourse instance. Optionally you could show comments if someone wants to see them on the page (or include a link to the dedicated forum thread for every post). Having commentary on a site like this is a great way to turn into WSB/StockTwits and/or have people attempting to pump and dump.
- Doches 5y ago> Having commentary on a site like this is a great way to turn into WSB/StockTwits I don't know; I'd be pretty pleased to be running (and monetizing!) a site at the scale & impact of WSB.
- hardwaresofton 5y agoFair point -- if the goal is monetization/stickiness-for-advertising instead of quality (no moral judgement on my part) then maybe it does make sense to encourage the "engagement" of users in that way. I wonder if it's harder to stand-out as an WSB/StockTwits alternative or as a product for investors looking for a "better" news source.
- rufasterisco 5y agoHN biggest achievement is its civil, informative, curated, comment section. Without comments, you have "stock news from 40+ sources", just not "Hacker News-ish".
- mjmasia 5y agoI really appreciate both points of view here! Thanks for your feedback :) I honestly just built this project as a tool to aggregate market news for myself and build something simple with Elixir + Phoenix. I don't have any plans to add commentary – but I do intend to keep it running and building things that are helpful to myself and the community!
- marban 5y agoJust launched https://biztoc.com https://biztoc.com [w/ Investment from Mark Cuban]
- ALittleLight 5y agoThe "toc" in the name makes me think of TikTok. But the site looks pretty reddit-like. Any similarity to TikTok or where does the toc come from?
- busymom0 5y agoYou might want to change the background color imo. The blueish text on blue background makes it hard on my eyes.
- abcd_f 5y agoThe whole thing looks pretty gaudy in general.
- stickfigure 5y agoThe top 6 articles on this site are "$X thinks $Y stock is worth $Z". It looks incredibly boring. Sorry.
- jedwhite 5y agoI'm a fan of HN-style information minimalism. How are you parsing the sources and ranking the display, out of interest? Are you using NewsAPI or grabbing RSS feeds directly or something like that? Good luck. It looks good. [Edit just saw it's stocknewsapi]
- mjmasia 5y agoHey @jedwhite! Thanks, I appreciate the feedback! Yeah I'm pretty much relaying from https://stocknewsapi.com https://stocknewsapi.com :) I've been using them for about 2 years and they have an awesome team and service.
- strogonoff 5y agoI strongly suspect that a popular news resource focusing on stocks is liable to be overrun with bots or ‘sponsored content’, either with or without moderators’ blessing/compensation. It’s the niche where information asymmetry and financial gain are so awkwardly close.
- Scoundreller 5y agoSounds like the iOS stocks app. Just junk robo-articles it pulls in.
- KirillPanov 5y agoFinancial news is like a TV channel that plays nothing but commercials. In the sense that every story is trying to get you to do something very specific that enriches the storyteller. I don't know why anybody would want that.
- GlennS 5y ago> I don't know why anybody would want that. I think the answer is probably something like gambling addiction. While I use a very basic/standard passive investing approach myself, I do believe there are people who have genuine skill at active investing, particularly when they are handling relatively small amounts of money. But I don't think any of them get there by absorbing walls of buy/sell recommendations.
- Ntrails 5y agoThat is not precisely true? When an article runs about a merger announcement, or earnings releases or even a new supplier relationship or big sale agreement... all those things are legitimate news that should affect your expected future cashflows.
- strogonoff 5y agoI think there is a realm of events in general, and a realm of financial investments. As a rule, events affect investments. Because of that, the choice of which events to report and which to disregard (one cannot report literally everything, so criteria always apply), from which angle to interpret events (selectively omitting or highlighting aspects can go a long way), etc. is inevitably influenced by financial interests of link aggregator or link submitter, who would certainly like their existing investments to appreciate and their future investments to depreciate—and the more they did or plan to invest, the more they stand to gain or lose. This already applies to news in general, and it just seemed to me it’d be amplified to rampant intensity if we are talking not any news, but stock news specifically. Not to discard the idea, but to highlight the value of such a platform as a target for manipulation, should it gain traction.
- kuzee 5y agoWow this site is fast. Well done. FWIW you can use AdSense/ad tags within LiveView, if you're using that. There's an attribute you need to set - Google it - I can't recall atm, but I got it working just fine on one of my sites to refresh ads and also take advantage of LiveViews speed for user engagement.
- mjmasia 5y agoThanks @kuzee! Much appreciated :) I appreciate that info on LiveView, I plan on digging into it! The public-facing pages of this site aren't currently using LiveView, but I see it on the horizon. For speed considerations, I'm actually caching news stories in memory using the excellent Cachex (https://github.com/whitfin/cachex https://github.com/whitfin/cachex) library.
- sakopov 5y agoI don't think Google will let you run ads on a news aggregator site w/o unique content. [1] [1] https://support.google.com/adsense/answer/1348737 https://support.google.com/adsense/answer/1348737
- mjmasia 5y agoI think you're right @sakopov. Luckily, I don't intend on adding ads here :) I'm just glad to share this site with the community and hope people get some value from it!
- paulpauper 5y agoIsn't this just an rss feed agregator?
- mjmasia 5y ago@paulpauper, it's pretty much a UI on top of the awesome Stock News API (https://stocknewsapi.com https://stocknewsapi.com). I really just built it to get acquainted with Elixir + Phoenix, and wanted to share it with the community :)
- Thorncorona 5y agoFWIW I don't think that you can really do this without moderation. Financial news is one area where curation shines particularly strongly, considering how strong monetary and information gain collide. Benzinga / Motley Fool / Seeking Alpha / Business Wire / Forbes aren't places to find worthwhile information.
- justahuman74 5y agoJust saying this bluntly is valuable to a lot of people
- camhart 5y agoIt looks like it relies on whatever curation https://stocknewsapi.com/ https://stocknewsapi.com/ provides. So "moderation"/curation is being done, but not by steez.
- stewbrew 5y agowhere do you expect to find stock analyses that were written and published with no afterthought? All these authors have some sort of hidden agenda, don't they? Sometimes you find a useful hint at the start of some hype though.
- webscout 5y agoThat's why a site like biztoc.com makes sense — curation + aggregation.
- 88840-8855 5y agoLooks good, but the login-mechanism is pure trash. It does not allow you to make account+password, but forces you to click a "magic link" in order to login. It was written in big letters, "dont worry we wont spam". 3 minutes later: 2 emails in my inbox. One of them "BizToc is made possible by Mark Cuban & Thomas Marban. If you’re enjoying it, please invite your friends & colleagues." This is pure spam and I do not like it.
- webscout 5y ago
- elevenoh 5y agoFYI: you can trade such news 24/7 on FTX, by just depositing crypto. example: https://ftx.com/trade/SPY/USD https://ftx.com/trade/SPY/USD
- xf1cf 5y agoThis is still biased. I respect the effort but a bloomberg or Eikon terminal is the only thing that is going to give you a true "pulse" of the market. Otherwise these are all lagging indicators confounded by the biases of the news algorithm writer. You could try to hook into DTN iQFeed or another source. For example, the reports from futures brokers tend to be up-to-the-minute in my experience. Trying to solve everything at once is just an example of engineers attempting to solve a problem they don't understand. This is meant as no disrespect to you OP. I am just a small trader and spent a lot of time trading lots of commodities. Thousands of small companies have tried and failed. I remember subscribing briefly to a several hundred dollar per month service that gave me the live feed, undelayed, of the brokers on the floor of corn/soy. It's an extremely hard problem to solve and honestly is rife with deep covenants you won't be able to break without money and/or a seat on the exchange. Good luck to you. Unfortunately with today's computer powered environments it's harder to get a "market pulse" without bias. If I am going to give you any feedback the fact I don't have to pay money for this feed already indicates to me it's probably not worth looking at. Could you try to work an angle with a squawk service or something and charge a sum to get it? Traders that are serious, i.e. not anyone on robinhood/major broker, take this very seriously. You could make a lot of money by providing good news in a single niche or perhaps two if you have the motivation. Don't focus on the worthless robinhood traders. With a news feed service you need to focus on the guys who are hooked into clearing houses. Not fly-by-night or payment-for-orderflow exchanges. The pikers trading 10,000 or less will never pay for a service. The guys moving units with deals on certain exchanges will pay an _extremely_ high premium or good information.
- js4ever 5y agoI got some 502 errors Would you mind to share some stats about current number of concurrent visitors?
- hliyan 5y agoDon't know about stocks, but I'd really like this interface for a regular news site: good, bad, event, sector, country (the country interface looks particularly nice). And then use labels to indicate type of news (instead of stock symbol). Not sure what the colored dots mean though.
- scottydelta 5y agoI have been working on a stock market analytics tool, here is the news section: https://quantale.io/dashboard/latest-news https://quantale.io/dashboard/latest-news It tracks real-time data from Reddit, Twitter, Newsmedia, SEC Filings and Financial Data of over 10000 stock tickers. It is in super alpha right now so please be more tolerant of bugs and issues. thank you
- benboughton1 5y agoHey nice idea- I am looking at building a dashboard style web app like yours. Have you used any frameworks here or rolled your own? - I am on mobile or id take a closer look myself.
- scottydelta 5y agoI am developing a big data collection and visualization platform called QuantaleCore that powers https://quantale.io https://quantale.io The platform allows users to code and launch a container which gets data into the DB and from there everything else is abstracted. There is a generic API that can be used to request that data from DB without writing any code and then on frontend I am developing a library that helps me hook these generic endpoints to different visualizations that I want just like kibana or grafana. So QuantaleCore is like an end to end replacement for Elasticsearch + Logstash + Kibana My email is on my profile. Email me if you would like to discuss it more. I would be happy to give you a demo.
- benboughton1 5y agoAlso I'd like to be able to read the reddit comment without having to leave the site if possible. Am liking it though, already been down a few rabbit holes. Good stuff.
- scottydelta 5y agothanks for the suggestion, I am adding a feature to expand the comment in the view itself and user will be able to read the full comment without leaving the site.
- pkrumins 5y agoI also made something similar: https://FinURLs.com https://FinURLs.com – a neat finance news aggregator.
- saaaaaam 5y agoMotley Fool is really awful. Every article is just click bait trying to get people into their sales funnel.
- adxl 5y agoI couldn’t agree more, it’s terrible and they should be ashamed of themselves for being so useless. I remember when Yahoo Finance was really good as a content aggregator we had dozens of contracts with news sources which you could filter etc. Plus the message boards that were some of the best on the internet. YFin has devolved into something unrecognizable (and horrible).
- soniman 5y agoI would be willing to pay money for a service that would allow me to a) pick sources (or ability to opt out of certain sources) and b) follow specific tickers and c) mass import tickers (ie ability to cut and paste a huge list of tickers from my watchlists that I want to follow).
- scottydelta 5y agonot to hijack the thread but I am working on https://quantale.io/dashboard/start https://quantale.io/dashboard/start, you should check it out. You can filter the data by ticker and soon I am adding watch list to monitor those particular tickers. thanks
- beezle 5y agoI find https://finviz.com/news.ashx https://finviz.com/news.ashx to be mostly useful. "Real" news on the left, "opinion" on the right. Some of the blogs, like calculated risk, are actually very cut/dried just the facts. ZH for anything other than bond markets is for amusement value only.