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Maybe that's how it works in America, but it doesn't mean it's the same everywhere. And given that the post was motivated by recent events in Europe it doesn't
by pandem 5y ago
Maybe that's how it works in America, but it doesn't mean it's the same everywhere. And given that the post was motivated by recent events in Europe it doesn't seem too relevant.
In Europe when you go through security no one checks your id. In fact most of the time when you fly inside Schengen with hand luggage only no one checks your id at all. But there definitely isn't something comparable to TSA that would have the information.
- djxfade 5y agoThe last few years I have been flying, my ID has been checked before entering the security check. This was a recent change introduced a few years ago. I presume this is done everywhere in Europe.
- midasuni 5y agoHaven’t flown since covid, but from 2019 flights, Not in U.K. (ID only checked at gate - intl flights only) and Not in 3 schengen airports (ID only checked after security when leaving schengen area) Don’t recall other airports enough but I didn’t do domestic flights. Nairobi I feel had more ID checks but could be wrong.
- DyslexicAtheist 5y agosame experience here and I'm also all over Europe. The time when you could just fly without hassle only lasted a few years. Now I have to look into the empty eyes of some dweeb wanting to check my passport like I'm entering Beirut in 1982. I feel obliged to thank them out of artificial politeness but really want to just ask them why they had to get a job that allows them to display power. Not that these checks ever prevented a "terrorist" attack. Airports only catch small drug mules that could have taken a bus anyway. Freedom of movement was one of the major selling points for joining the EU to the unwashed middle classes. That has all gone to the dogs (at least for business travel). The only advantage of free movement that still exists is being able to live and work in other countries. It's typical when they do something in the name of "sEcURitY" they will never roll it back. Classic "salami tactic" and a slow encroachment by the system[1]. Opinions on this obviously vary depending if a person uses a uniform for work in order to compartmentalize their conscience, has to defend family working for the security apparatus, or peddles crappy/racist "AI based" biometric software to the system. Perhaps wanting to become a "person of authority" is like a gender thing which people have no choice over. So I shouldn't make fun or look down at them: ACAB ("Assigned Cop At Birth"). Also the worst of all countries has doubtlessly been the UK. Even you arrived coming from Europe, they shepherded you through the slow-lane like a smelly goat with noises that sound like Dick Van Dyke doing a Bricktop impression. [1] https://archive.org/details/JacquesEllulTheTechnologicalSociety https://archive.org/details/JacquesEllulTheTechnologicalSoci...
- jamesrr39 5y agoAlso in Europe, but with a completely different experience; it is (well, was, pre-covid) easy to move between EU states. Within the Schengen Zone it's only the check at the gate to check your ID matches your boarding pass (so no check at "immigration"), and to/from the UK the electronic gates have really sped things up (compared to the old days). YMMV but I find I'm rarely waiting more than a few minutes at the immigration checks (to/from UK) nowadays.
- DyslexicAtheist 5y agointeresting. this seems to indicate that Schengen countries decided on a national level if they wanted to do checks on their borders. I have seen hard passport checks within Schengen in Croatia, Sweden, Germany, France and Portugal. Good to hear the UK has improved. I should have mentioned I haven't been there since 2018. I was expecting that brexit made things worse and had no idea
- iso1631 5y agoBrexit didn't really kick in until January this year, and covid impact masks any brexit impact
- StavrosK 5y agoGreece doesn't check ID at the airport either, beyond matching your boarding pass to your name.
- Kbelicius 5y agoCroatia is not part of Schengen so there shouldn't be any surprise about them doing the hard checks. They are hoping to enter this year.
- ryanlol 5y agoThis really doesn’t add up. Who was performing these hard passport checks? An airline employee? Where was your flight originating from/going to?
- tluyben2 5y agoI frequent a airports in the eu where they do and where they don't: seems to depend on the country and maybe the airport. The number of places where it happens went up.
- ryanlol 5y agoI fly around europe on almost a weekly basis to and from a wide variety of airports. My ID has never been checked before security. I think maybe you’re confusing the checkin where you might show your passport with an ID check? You can completely bypass this by checking in online, and the airline doesn’t actually inspect your ID anyway.
- benhurmarcel 5y agoIt depends on the airline and airport. For example Lufthansa typically doesn't check IDs.
- hungryforcodes 5y agoI've traveled all over Asia and the above procedure is how they do it everywhere.
- hef19898 5y agoTrue, nobody is even checking your ID at all gor domestic flights. I had one business trip in Germany, including two flights, i did without my valet, and thus without any piece of ID. The eTicket was enough.