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Junk food is continuously being exported from US. Here in a medium sized town in The Netherlands, we have multiple MD's, now a KFC, Subway and I must have forg
by the-dude 5y ago
Junk food is continuously being exported from US. Here in a medium sized town in The Netherlands, we have multiple MD's, now a KFC, Subway and I must have forgotten some.
I still remember when the first MD opened in 1986 ( around the same time we got MTV ). Now it is US franchises all over the place.
edit: and not only food, drinks too. We used to have domestic 'soda' brands.
- DangitBobby 5y agoIt's funny to me that you see Subway as junk food because I see it as one of my healthiest options.
- mensetmanusman 5y agoWhen I first moved to Europe, I am ashamed to say my first meal was a Subway, because I wanted to give my digestive system something familiar before starting a new life.
- AuryGlenz 5y agoThere’s no shame in that. I’m from the US and I’ve had McDonalds in both Japan and Switzerland. It can be nice to have something familiar when you’re feeling out of place or homesick.
- the-dude 5y agoIt's funny you see it that way: Subway rolls ruled too sugary to be bread in Ireland https://www.bbc.com/news/business-54370056 https://www.bbc.com/news/business-54370056 Subway 'bread' contains 10% sugar, the EU limit is 2%.
- caturopath 5y agoI don't think 2% is EU-wide, but Ireland-specific. (And not present in all contexts -- sugary bread like milk bread or Subway rolls are considered bread for some legal purposes in Ireland.)
- DangitBobby 5y agoDoes that really change the fact that it would be one of my healthiest options for eating out? Have you considered what the other options are? I think you are misconstruing my comment as claiming that you should consider it one of your healthiest options.
- waihtis 5y agoI think the whole discussion is misplaced as you can eat at Subway without eating the bread; but equally you can have a salad at McDonalds.
- DangitBobby 5y agoI can get a veggie patty with a ton of extra veggies on wheat at Subway. So much better than a McDonald's salad, imo. But I do see the point. Still, I think the typical meal at Subway is healthier than the same at McDonald's. I lost about 90 lbs with subway for lunch as a key part of my diet.
- waihtis 5y agoYeah, I guess walking hungry into a McDonalds is more risky in terms of restraint vs Subway..
- stinos 5y agoDo you mean healthiest amongst the others named, or that you don't have acces to fresh vegetables and the likes?
- DangitBobby 5y agoI mean specifically if I want to not have to cook something. Even among sit-down or carry out places near me.
- s_dev 5y agoIn Ireland the Supreme Court told Subway they had to reclassify their 'bread' as cake due to the sugar content. Regarding the payment of taxes. When it comes to nutrition -- as a good general rule once you buy fresh good ingredients it's actually quite difficult to make unhealthy food regardless if you add too much fat, salt or sugar to your recipe -- the corollary is if you buy commercial food served ready to eat it's quite difficult to choose something healthy.
- overcast 5y agoHealthy?! It's fast food, with (sometimes) vegetables.
- metalliqaz 5y agobut not deep fried. it's a low bar in the USA USA NUMBER 1 !!! (in childhood type-2 diabetes)
- nradov 5y agoType 2 diabetes is generally caused more by excessive sugar than deep-fried food.
- reedjosh 5y agoYes, and the sugar content of the wheat bread mentioned is extremely high. Further, wheat's glycemic index isn't too far off from sugar. https://www.health.harvard.edu/diseases-and-conditions/glycemic-index-and-glycemic-load-for-100-foods https://www.health.harvard.edu/diseases-and-conditions/glyce... HIGH-CARBOHYDRATE FOODS White wheat bread* 75 ± 2 Whole wheat/whole meal bread 74 ± 2 Specialty grain bread 53 ± 2 SUGARS Fructose 15 ± 4 Sucrose 65 ± 4 Glucose 103 ± 3 Honey 61 ± 3
- DangitBobby 5y agoThe subs I order are all vegetables on wheat.
- overcast 5y agoThat bread is basically candy. Just make yourself a salad if veggies is what you want.
- DangitBobby 5y agoWell, as a vegetarian, if I ate a salad every time I wanted a vegetable then I'd pretty much only be eating salads. I'm sure you can commiserate with wanting a variety of foods in your diet which would include sandwiches. But knowing that the bread has so much sugar, I can pick other sandwich places most of the time.
- mhh__ 5y agoOf those 3, McDonalds and Subway aren't that bad I find, whereas KFC is genuinely dire. If I get a subway I tend to ram it with as many vegetables as possible, at McDonalds I pretty much always £5s worth of burgers inc. a small fries, not healthy but not that bad. I made the mistake of getting a KFC delivered recently and Jesus Christ it was like an Oil Well.
- switch007 5y agoMcDonald’s is pure oil - maybe they hide it better? The smell of oil carries for a mile at least past any McDonald’s.
- reedjosh 5y agoAnd unfortunately it's chemically expressed trans-fat oil. We'd all be better off if they went back to the traditional use of tallow.
- reducesuffering 5y agoYou're about 13 years behind. McD's (or almost any US franchise) doesn't use trans fat oils anymore.
- kindall 5y agoI think McD's uses liquid oil, so not hydrogenated (trans fat). You hydrogenate oil to make it solid at room temperature, as a substitute for animal fats. If you're going to fry in it there's no point in not starting with an oil that is liquid at room temperature.
- webkike 5y agoKFC is only good in Japan for some reason.
- rwultsch 5y agoAnd Taiwan.