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AmigaOS 3.2
- kstrauser 5y agoI can't keep track anymore. Is this a successor to 3.1.4 that came out not long ago, or something different?
- LeoPanthera 5y agoThis is a successor to 3.1.4, yes.
- jug 5y agoYes, here's the timeline to clarify: Kickstart 1.0 - 3.1: By Commodore. Actually 3.0 was "officially" last but 3.1 was ongoing work that got wrapped up well enough. I don't really remember if Commodore officially released 3.1 or if it was picked up from their corpse by someone. HAAGE & PARTNER BRANCH: AmigaOS 3.5-3.9: First post-3.1 versions from 1999-2000 (for Motorola 68020 and up rather than 68000 and up) by Haage & Partner. Main features a TCP/IP stack and a new GUI, a new GUI toolkit called ReAction, MPEG movie player, MP3 player, >4 GB disk partitioning support. HYPERION POWER PC BRANCH: AmigaOS 4.0-4.1: First PowerPC-only version. Main features memory virtualization, new GUI, integrated third-party graphics driver support, etc. HYPERION "CLASSIC" BRANCH: Now they returned to 3.1 BUT with 3.9 source code still on their hands. Trying to advance Kickstart from a new angle that allows support for all Amigas, even the 68000 (Amiga 500). This is NOT for PowerPC. AmigaOS 4 is for those systems but since that's basically a dead end in 2021, this is a more pragmatic move. I also find less "careless" and more conservative than 3.5+, focusing on kernel improvements rather than bolting on big third party tools and libraries. Basically more how I'd expect actual Commodore releases would look like. AmigaOS 3.1.4: Backporting numerous features and lessons learnt from 3.9 and now available for all Amigas, that is including the MC68000. An important update for classic Amigas since it brings in particular support that makes interacting with modern hardware easier with larger hard drives, and I think it added MC68060 support too for accelerators and whatnot. AmigaOS 3.2: A continuation of the 3.1.4 branch and now probably surpassing 3.9 in many areas. AmigaOS 3.x...?
- kstrauser 5y ago3.1 was the last official Commodore release. I totally don't need 3.2, but I admit that I want it anyway just so my UAE can feel shiny and new.
- LocalH 5y agoBarely. It was released during the liquidation. http://www.bambi-amiga.co.uk/amigahistory/amigaos31.html http://www.bambi-amiga.co.uk/amigahistory/amigaos31.html
- timbit42 5y agoA "timeline" with almost no dates.
- tibbydudeza 5y agoHow many 68K Amiga's still working exist today ???. I don't get it.
- mrweasel 5y agoIt gets even weirder when you realise that apparently it's some ones job to maintain an 35 year old operating system... for a platform that's no longer manufactured. How do you even hire for that position? What tools do the AmigaOS team use? I love that this is still worked on, and I'd love to know more about what that job is like.
- kstrauser 5y agoI fire up UAE every now and then for the fun of it. Edit: I just realized that what I really want is an easy way to launch a single Amiga app in a window on my Mac. Double-click an icon and have The Bard's Tale up and running? Yes please.
- xantronix 5y agoWhat you are looking for is this: https://www.amigaforever.com/ https://www.amigaforever.com/
- chipotle_coyote 5y agoGiven that kstrauser specified "an easy way to launch a single Amiga app in a window on my Mac," an Amiga emulator that only runs on Windows -- however good it may otherwise be -- is probably not in fact what they're looking for. :) (Edit: I see that Cloanto does have a somewhat cryptic page for macOS, but the way I read it, Macs can only run the open source UAE that I gather Amiga Forever is built on top of. So https://fs-uae.net https://fs-uae.net might be a better place to investigate.)
- kstrauser 5y agoThat’s exactly the one I use, with the ROMs and ADFs from Amiga Forever. Still wish I could double-click a Defender of the Crown icon and be playing it a moment later.
- jug 5y agoOMG, I've waited for this! I was SO worried litigation from Clonato would make all the work by Thomas Richter & Co. go to waste on the finishing line. It's remarkable how litigations are still a thing with the Amiga brand. I don't understand how the profits for the winning party is expected to be greater than the lawyer costs.
- pantalaimon 5y agoI'm amazed that it can be profitable to still develop an OS for those machines!
- jug 5y agoThat too, hahaha! There must be a small, tightly knit but rich/supportive community still there.
- xyproto 5y agoI think it's also useful for legally running an Amiga emulator?
- icedchai 5y agoI'd be surprised if it's profitable. Maybe a labor of love. I've been an Amiga fan since the late 80's. It was my favorite machine. Nothing quite has had the magic of booting up games like Shadow of the Beast or Blood Money. The Amiga was truly a quantum leap.
- dumbfounder 5y agoShadow of the Beast was one of the most impossibly hard games to play of all time. But that sounds and music.
- icedchai 5y agoThe parallax scrolling was incredible for 1989. Nothing was quite like it.
- ethanpil 5y agoAnyone interested in a comprehensive summary of the Amiga legal spaghetti should take a look at https://sites.google.com/site/amigadocuments/ https://sites.google.com/site/amigadocuments/ Play by play updates on their Twitter at https://mobile.twitter.com/amigadocuments https://mobile.twitter.com/amigadocuments
- snvzz 5y agoAnd, by extension, I'd suggest not fueling the legal drama by funding the lawyers through buying Hyperion's 3.2 or Cloanto's products.
- chipotle_coyote 5y agoSo…who exactly do you buy from, then? That's a semi-serious question; the "Amiga Documents" site linked in the post you're replying to seems to cast Hyperion as the (relative?) villains and Cloanto as the (relative?) good guys, but it seems if you want a version of AmigaOS released this century, that means Hyperion.
- snvzz 5y ago>So…who exactly do you buy from, then? Nobody. >Seems to cast Hyperion as the (relative?) villains and Cloanto as the (relative?) good guys They're both spending all their cash fighting each other. I support neither. >but it seems if you want a version of AmigaOS released this century, that means Hyperion. Support AROS. Copy AmigaOS, don't support it. That is the conclusion I arrived to. This is one way of many possible: https://www.power2people.org/projects/overview/ https://www.power2people.org/projects/overview/
- kstrauser 5y agoIs there a summary of the summary? Also, is there any financial value left in that IP? From an outside perspective it looks like people fighting over table scraps.
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- soapdog 5y agoCan someone post some screen shots? :D
- chriswarbo 5y agohttps://www.hyperion-entertainment.com/index.php/news/1-latest-news/290-amigaos-42-for-all-classic-amigas-released-and-available https://www.hyperion-entertainment.com/index.php/news/1-late...
- wojciechpolak 5y agoI learnt C programming and a lot of stuff about UN*X systems from my Amiga 500 and later on a heavily expanded 1200, thanks to a wonderful "Geek Gadgets Version 2" project. I even ran GCC on my Amiga back then. After that, in 2001, I switched entirely to GNU/Linux (RH7) and I knew quite a lot about how to use it since day one, thanks to my wondeful Amiga computer and Geek Gadgets.
- cmsj 5y agosame! geek gadgets was awesome
- kstrauser 5y agoVaguely related: approximately 20 years ago I hosted "The Amiga Alternative Audio Page". Every time I migrate my blog to a new platform -- which is often because I like to tinker with it -- I figure this is the time I'll finally kill that page forever. And then my web logs fill with 404s and I bring it back from the dead because I don't have the heart to kill old Amiga software. So, https://honeypot.net/post/the-amiga-alternative-audio-page/ https://honeypot.net/post/the-amiga-alternative-audio-page/ is still a thing, but please don't ask me to update any of that software. I wouldn't know how to anymore if I wanted to.
- stuaxo 5y agoPlease keep it, I'm going to get an Amiga as soon as I can afford to buy a place do I have somewhere to put it :)
- kstrauser 5y agoI’ve kept it this long. I’ll keep it around a little longer, but just for you specifically. :-)
- morsch 5y agoUpload it to the Internet archive, maybe? They already have a lot of Amiga software, so it won't feel lonely.
- zmix 5y agoI wonder what those "100 new features" are...!?
- rbanffy 5y agoThe most extraordinary thing here is not only it’s being done, but it’s being done in a proprietary way. The surface of the AmigaOS is tiny in comparison with any modern system. It’s surprising nobody took a free RTOS and built an Amiga API on top of it, enough to fool Amiga software into being compiled for modern hardware and run directly on real Amigas.
- takeda 5y agoI think that's AROS[1]. When trying to remember its name I also found Apollo OS[2]. [1] https://amigang.com/software-aros/ https://amigang.com/software-aros/ [2] http://www.apollo-computer.com/apollOS.html http://www.apollo-computer.com/apollOS.html Edit: Looks, like Apollo OS is a fork of AROS that is optimized to run on the original Amiga hardware.
- vidarh 5y agoApolloOS is optimized to run on "680x0" hardware, including the FPGA based Vampire accelerators (and presumably the standalone Amiga replacement). So while it will run on original Amiga hardware, it also has optimisations that are Vampire specific (extra instructions etc.)
- takeda 5y agoI see, thanks for the explanation.
- rasz 5y agoYou might have an unduly notion of the amount of "being done". The most "modern" up to date AmigaOS will take several seconds every time you open a drawer (directory) loading icons one by one, even on the fastest possible Amiga (Vampire or emulated one) using modern SSD. Its all dressing a pig for the hardcore fanbase using their Amigas to run SysInfo once a year after buying another $xxx accelerator card and reminiscing about the good old times when they were 14y old kid.
- arduinomancer 5y agoI don't get it, can someone explain? Why would someone release of a modern version of an Amiga operating system for sale on CDROM? Who would use this?
- fogihujy 5y agoAmigans. It's a small but very tenacious community.
- Cockbrand 5y agoDoes it require new ROMs over 3.1.4? Or do I just buy the disk images and upgrade my HDD install?
- Cockbrand 5y agoThe FAQ mentions new ROMs, so there are specific 3.2 ones.