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Show HN: Mmm.page – Drag and drop personal website creator

591 points by xhfloz 5y ago

ageitgey 5y ago
I mean honestly, this is pretty good stuff. Nice job!
xhfloz 5y ago
Hey HN! Been thinking about something like this for a long time, and finally decided to work on it three months ago. Excited to show everyone today! . ———— TLDR ———— I built a website builder (works on desktop & mobile) that makes it easy to create automatically-responsive, collage-like websites -- websites that allow you to overlap text, images, GIFs, YouTube videos, etc. etc. Check it out @ https://build.mmm.page https://build.mmm.page Feel free to RT https://twitter.com/xhfloz/status/1392438711367909376 https://twitter.com/xhfloz/status/1392438711367909376 to help :) . ———— Nitty Gritty Details ———— * Every page is automatically responsive (a demonstration of how is shown on the homepage). * Allow text, images, GIFs, shapes, YouTube videos to start (much more planned). * Everybody gets their own URL/namespace @ mmm.page/USERNAME * _Actual_ drag and drop! No grid-locking (though there are layout alignment guides). * Tiny cool thing -- try pinching and zooming on your touchpad (rotate works on Safari too). . ———— Motivation ———— There seems to be fewer and fewer personal websites -- many of which now look increasingly similar -- and, yet, more people than ever have some Graphic Design Lite experience (a la Snapchat & Instagram), so I figured, it could be interesting to see websites made with a similar style, WYSIWYG composer as Snapchat/IG. (That, and the math to do these layouts manually is always too much hassle for me.) . ———— Updates to Come ———— A lot still needs to be done, but wanted to share today to gather some feedback -- hope you find it useful! Feel free to follow me on Twitter for updates (https://twitter.com/xhfloz https://twitter.com/xhfloz) . -- XH (https://mmm.page/xh.main https://mmm.page/xh.main)
- HugoDaniel 5y ago
  awesome work! I love the flow, the simple concept of toolbar+modals for the UI, the premade sensible options. Oh and those menus and icons are very cool, did you use any special frontend framework? anyway, keep it up! this is great :)
- densekernel 5y ago
  Awesome! On trend with the aesthetic. How did you accomplish the responsiveness with such a flexible layout?
  - kickscondor 5y ago
    Not the creator, but looking at the source - everything is sized using 'rem' units. (Height, width, positioning of all the elements.) Kind of like using a percentage. style="height: 0.160992rem; width: 1.00383rem; left: 0.5rem; top: 0.273827rem; ..." This can be used because `font-size` on the root html tag is set to the width in pixels of the screen - or 600px maximum. And then font sizes for all the elements are specified individually.
- input_sh 5y ago
  FYI nothing happens after clicking on Chaos Monkey → Proceed. I thought it was because uBO blocks sentry requests, but even when whitelisted, requests are made, but nothing happens.
- eevahr 5y ago
  Very cool, interested to see whats behind the editor!
- delibes 5y ago
  It looks fun. Well done! One thought I had ... it'd be useful if you can add some features to support accessibility.
- michaelbrooks 5y ago
  Awesome work, I really like what you're doing with this. I created my own personal page and followed each of the steps. However, I can't update the email, Twitter and IG links on each button. Am I missing something, or is this a bug? I'm on desktop using FF.
  - easton 5y ago
    Those buttons are filler buttons, you have to drag a new button out to customize it (it showed a message about this for me, perhaps the developer updated it since your comment?)
    - michaelbrooks 5y ago
      Ah, I must have missed that and deleted the label. Thank you so much for your help.
- dangoor 5y ago
  I'd love to be able to use this sort of editor to produce a static site that I control. My websites are currently static and deployed via netlify, but it would be awesome to create some pages with a tool like this.
- john-doe 5y ago
  Something that could be great, and aligns with the general "collage" vibe, would be to allow (sandboxed) iframes… (by the way, I'm glad you're using "nocookie" for youtube)
- xhfloz 5y ago
  Just launched on PH if anyone wants to show some support ! https://www.producthunt.com/posts/mmm-page-3 https://www.producthunt.com/posts/mmm-page-3
Joe8Bit 5y ago
> Websites shouldn't all look the same. We prefer campy, kitschy, messy, imperfect. I really like the design aesthethic this product encourages. There's so much charm and fun and eccentricity that's lost in a web where full-height responsive image backgrounds and blocky design frameworks are ubiquitous. If this can help people express just a little bit of the wild creativity of things like early 2000's MySpace layouts or GeoCities pages I'll be a big fan!
- keithnz 5y ago
  I think now that many live in a youtube/twitter/twitch/facebook/insta sandbox where you can't customize your "space" very much, those days of people crafting their own corner of the internet is really gone.
  - aetherspawn 5y ago
    I can imagine that this product would transition very well into a social network that creatives, artists and such would find very appealing.
    - chiefalchemist 5y ago
      Yes!! Why not, the website as art? As the medium and the message? A network of creative expression? Or as a "diary" where every entry is more scrapbook-y and less uniform blog? Could be fun. We need more fun.
      - indigochill 5y ago
        Honestly, because it takes work. I'm not even talking about technical work, but creative work. To do this well, you want to think about your message and then about how to convey that message not just in the content, but in how the content is presented (sometimes geocities-esque chaos isn't quite the right vibe). Then you need to figure out how to fit that presentation into the assumptions of your web technology (I personally feel like the DOM is a straitjacket, but I'll concede since I don't work heavily in the front-end myself, maybe there are cute hacks that make it less so, short of just making the page a full canvas for something else like three.js) Anyway, I've developed two "fun" pages myself, playing around with alternative ways to present content on the web: 1. https://maxsond.github.io/ https://maxsond.github.io/ (website traversal as interactive fiction) 2. http://tilde.town/~indigo/ http://tilde.town/~indigo/ (website traversal as pseudo-CLI) Neither of them really flesh it out to what one might consider a full website, but are more light-weight experiments in alternative ways webpages can present content.
readingnews 5y ago
This does feel quite myspace-y, but the burning question would be... is this all just like myspace. e.g. if I leave or spend hours creating something, it is nearly impossible to move it or back it up to something else?
Gys 5y ago
First impression is very good. However, it requires signup to actually try / use. I have several websites, but currently have no need for such so I just left again. Probably to never return because I never remember sites that I only visit a few seconds. Would be better to let my try and get me hooked, to get ideas for remodeling one of my existing websites.
- john-doe 5y ago
  > it requires signup to actually try / use Just hit the bottom right "edit" button
  - AltF4me 5y ago
    Nice. Maybe edit should be the CTA rather than sign up?
  - Kuraj 5y ago
    I would have never discovered it if it wasn't for your comment
  - Gys 5y ago
    Thanks. Saw it but did not click because I thought it to be for chat.
Deukhoofd 5y ago
It looks very nice! I played around with it a bit, and one of the main things I missed is some kind of hierarchy/grouping. If some text is inside a box, and I drag the box around I'd want the text to move with it. Currently I have to drag each individual part of a group to move it.
herunan 5y ago
I really do hope this ‘scrappy’ approach to websites keeps growing. Bit tired of the homogenisation of the web lately.
shtack 5y ago
This is awesome, I’ve been looking for something like this (particularly for mobile) for a while. One small issue I came across is a photo I uploaded came out with the wrong aspect ratio and I can’t seem to fix it.
jimbler 5y ago
This is going to get some love. Its the right product insight(even the simplest template driven sites are too hard once you get past the basics). You're working off a good consumer insight ("i want this site to look very different"). I like the details (chaos monkey). Super simple to understand and use.
lalo2302 5y ago
Great stuff! I'd recommend making the "Edit" button a bit more noticeable, took me a while to find it. Also do you have planned custom domains? Great job!
oefrha 5y ago
> 12.6 MB transferred, 21.8 MB resources Personally I much prefer websites that don't use up that much bandwidth. Let's take https://asset.mmm.page/77/a05aa5533e4f3a97080c63f9b70189/04-min.png https://asset.mmm.page/77/a05aa5533e4f3a97080c63f9b70189/04-.... 4,748,611 bytes, 2602x4336 pixels, actually rendered at a ~150x250px size. Do you really need to ship that many pixels? I hope more people pay attention to reducing bloat than looking campy, kitschy, messy, imperfect.
Toutouxc 5y ago
The ease of editing scratches an itch I didn't know I had.
- quickthrower2 5y ago
  Editing the very landing page feels naughty! It’s fun!
thih9 5y ago
I wish the "edit" button was more visible. I noticed it only on my second visit. After I found it, I enjoyed playing with the page and the first hand experience a lot more than reading about it. During my first visit I wasn't impressed but now the product looks cool to me.
- vidarh 5y ago
  I was about to say the same. Make it bigger. Make it pulse. Mention high up in the text.... Or something. I scanned through the page and was annoyed there didn't seem to be a way of testing it without signing up and was about to leave when I spotted the edit button.
- neop1x 5y ago
  Yes, I also saw Sign up first and at the time I was about to leave I noticed the Edit button. It mentioned I can "click Edit and try" but it was not clear I can do that immediately at the landing page without registration.
unilynx 5y ago
I miss a 'Jump to random mmm.page'. No time or creativity to add something myself, but I'd like to get a few impressions on the jumbly messy things that are being made..
- xhfloz 5y ago
  gallery coming soon — i've been resharing some nice pages on https://twitter.com/xhfloz https://twitter.com/xhfloz in the meantime!
- rchaud 5y ago
  Great idea, would be good to see what users have created. It shouldn't be totally random though, as that could just go to a bunch of incomplete sites. It should be curated a little bit.
bencoder 5y ago
This is really great!
swashbuck1r 5y ago
The flexible WYSIWYG editing is top-notch! I’m sure you’ll get a thousand feedback ideas, but... if a next goal was to get folks to make it an expression/view of themselves, it would be good to help them connect content that they are already making back into their page. Being able to drop in a API feed of their tweets, blog posts or videos — and then applying some of your kitschy formatting to it — might bring back even more of that MySpace feel...
Kiro 5y ago
Very nice but don't really understand "Every page is mindlessly responsive so they work across screen sizes". Doesn't seem to do anything to make it responsive unless I misunderstand something (just tried to resize the window and anything not in the narrow column in the middle ended up outside the screen). I would like to add "breakpoints" and make adjustments just for the screen size I'm currently viewing it in.
- JMill 5y ago
  While my inner webdev agrees with you, my interpretation of the mmm.page philosophy is that planning "breakpoints" etc takes too much thought, and hence runs against the "mindless" aspect. "Mindlessly responsive" -> When the content is outside the demarcated safe zone, it's not visible on little screens. Simple ruleset, no brain required. If I just want to get some fun content on a webpage, I either paint in the lines or intentionally paint beyond them.
schmorptron 5y ago
Hey, I really liked the registration process - getting the email verification in first and then having really simple onboarding makes for a great experience. Also, the aesthetic is so fun!
dubcanada 5y ago
This is so cool! I found it extremely easy to edit a site on mobile, which is probably the hardest thing to get right. Very well done! One note though, keyboard shortcuts don't work (pressing delete after clicking on a element doesn't delete it for example)
Closi 5y ago
I 100% love it - this is super fun!
hailpixel 5y ago
I love this app's approach to responsive design: just show the "safe" area and let people throw elements where ever. So liberating.
- Nullabillity 5y ago
  Eh, as a desktop user it sucks to still get the same patronising and space-wasting mobile design.
domano 5y ago
I love it! Especially the editability of the landing page itself! I really hope this takes off - so much more creativity-inducing than squarespace or whatever! Does not really work for me since i am not really the target audience, but i really hope this gets a lot of exposure.
SamWhited 5y ago
I hate making a new login that I have to remember for things I might not even use. It would be nice if you could create the website first, then only sign up if you liked it and wanted to save it. This stops me from testing cool looking projects like this all the time :( EDIT: that being said, I love that you can edit the landing page itself, that at least gives me some idea of how it works, although then if I turn it into something interesting I have to start over when I sign up.
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- WORMS_EAT_WORMS 5y ago
  Hit the edit button, bottom right for a small sample. Agree on onboarding. You also have to re-enter your email after you click your email link which was annoying. But... this is 100% nitpicking. I think they crushed launch at making this appealing.
  - flanbiscuit 5y ago
    > Hit the edit button, bottom right for a small sample. I didn't even notice that! What a cool idea to be able to test out the site by editing the home page itself
    - WORMS_EAT_WORMS 5y ago
      Would be disgusting chaos but also would be cool to let anyone edit the page so it is forever changing -- obviously working out the issues of blocking/hiding texts. Or social, imagine how much fun it would be to leave stickers/stamps on approved friend's websites.
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- PinkPigeon 5y ago
  So I think this is an excellent point. I'd love to do something like that for my product as well. However, there are a few considerations, some of bigger consequence than others: - How do you keep users from losing their data when they leave and come back? Cookies with an ID are a brittle solution. You could have a unique link, where the user's work is saved right up until they want to register - How do you deal with the inevitable onslaught of people using an open system? If you're bootstrapping like me, I don't think I could possibly handle the influx of an HN frontpage's worth of people simultaneously hammering the system - When do you clean house? You won't necessarily know whether someone wants to build a site, disappear for a month and then come back to it. Feels unlikely, but it's still possible. All of this would be solved by having (at the very least) a quick email-only signup, which auto-generates a password and a welcome email, but also takes you straight into the system. It's a small barrier to entry, but perhaps one that's worth putting in place to avoid hammering the server(s) too much? What do you think of video content showing off the system, could that help as a sort of interim solution?
alexobenauer 5y ago
This is fantastic. Nice work. Just because of Geocities-era sites, I really wanted there to be graphical visit counter elements I could add to a page.
BeniBoy 5y ago
Looks great, but little bug on my system (Firefox 87 for Android 11), scroll does not work.. But on my computer, it sure looks good, will recommend to my less tech-savy friends!
- xhfloz 5y ago
  can you try it again? this should be resolved
  - BeniBoy 5y ago
    Yep, it's fixed. Congrats on the launch!
CyanDeparture 5y ago
After reading that article on Corporate Memphis yesterday, I can't decribe how much I love the design of this landing page.
twoslide 5y ago
I found it unusable on Firefox 81 (including with No addons). Clicks don't work at all - seems to work fine on Chromium. I suggest testing on a broader range of browsers. Edit: It's just my version, not an issue with the site.
- likeafox 5y ago
  It's running surprisingly fast on FF 88 for me, just for the record.
- aetherspawn 5y ago
  I am using Firefox 88 (std, auto update) and it works fine. Most polyfill libraries only support the last 2 major versions on greenfield browsers because they update themselves -- perhaps there is a problem with your auto updater?
  - twoslide 5y ago
    Probably - stupid "managed" updates from my organization. Probably should just uninstall the managed version and install the normal version from the web.
- dubcanada 5y ago
  The issue on Firefox 81 seems to be a z-index issue with the edit toggle button. Setting it up a 100 fixes it. On Firefox 81 the z-index seems to be calculated to z-index: -2147483648; Is there a particular reason you are using a 1 year old version of Firefox?
- xhfloz 5y ago
  Sorry haven't been good @ replying, but just fixed this bug!
aetherspawn 5y ago
I found it amusing that the 'stroke' tab of the sticker presets gives you a variety of random brush strokes, smudges etc. It also gives you a single sticker of a brain flashing 'aphasia', which is a literal type of medical stroke that causes brain damage and possibly insensitive on that tab!
- jtvjan 5y ago
  Looks like it just searches giphy.com for transparent GIFs.
yawnxyz 5y ago
that's incredible! Good job bringing back the fun of Geocities yet making everything modern
mcintyre1994 5y ago
This is pretty fun, but I can't figure out how you do most of what you have on the home page. I'm not sure if it's just me or some of the coolest things are too hard to discover. A few examples: When I go to shapes they're all 2d and I can't find a way to make them 3d like yours are. I'm also not sure how to rotate objects, even if I click on the rotated YouTube video I can't figure out how to do it/how I can change its rotation. Also is this a typo? "Every page is mindlessly responsive so they work across screen sizes" Should mindlessly be automatically?
- tyingq 5y ago
  The 3d shapes are images, so "Add Image" rather than "Add Shape". You would have to find your own images. To rotate, click on something and move your cursor just to the outside of one of the corners. Your cursor will change to a curved arrow, and you can rotate.
tzekid 5y ago
All apple gestures (pinch to zoom, 2 finger swipe for navigation) don't work at all. That's kind of a deal breaker for me ...
PeterBarrett 5y ago
Great alternative to the likes of linktree. Nice and intuitive too.
cwmartin 5y ago
This feels like it’s in the same family as straw.page[1]. Both are a really refreshing break from homogeneous minimalist web design that’s taken hold over the past few years. [1]: https://straw.page/start https://straw.page/start / https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26124581 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26124581
- swyx 5y ago
  this reminds me of https://e.gg/ https://e.gg/ by facebook NPE too
ub99 5y ago
Great job! The builder is fun and intuitive. I especially like how you handle responsiveness - very smooth. Do you basically use relative units (eg percentages) for all sizes and distances to accomplish that?
kickscondor 5y ago
Too fun! https://mmm.page/kicks.condor https://mmm.page/kicks.condor Anyone else making a page out there?
- Aulig 5y ago
  Hey - you shouldn't hate yourself. I'll gladly be your fan :)
  - kickscondor 5y ago
    Yay! (≧◡≦) Let's see how long this lasts.
- b212 5y ago
  That Recycle Bin though... Simply perfect.
- Rphad 5y ago
  https://mmm.page/Rphad.yolo https://mmm.page/Rphad.yolo
- tmountain 5y ago
  https://mmm.page/chedraui.main https://mmm.page/chedraui.main
- vesche 5y ago
  https://mmm.page/vesche.main https://mmm.page/vesche.main
- swyx 5y ago
  https://mmm.page/swyx.io https://mmm.page/swyx.io
- mvexel 5y ago
  <marquee>https://mmm.page/maps.main</marquee> https://mmm.page/maps.main</marquee>
- digitalsin 5y ago
The_rationalist 5y ago
I miss geocities..
Jonovono 5y ago
It's cool, but whats your main draw over E.gg by Instagram or Universe Web Builder
- kickscondor 5y ago
  e.gg never actually launched, right? And the others just don't have the same flare at all...
  - Jonovono 5y ago
    It's on iOS: https://e.gg https://e.gg. Agree, I do think the vibes of this are a bit better.
mvexel 5y ago
Fantastic! I do think it needs webrings.
crazypython 5y ago
I love that it fuels creative freedom, but this seems to be proprietary, which means freedom is still restricted. Consider releasing code under AGPLv3 and styling/pictures GFDLv1.3? (GFDL has very strong attribution requirements: you must keep it as part of the title and include other parts.)
gregsadetsky 5y ago
Congrats, it's really great! A small comment: - Instagram has recently become much more aggressive in not showing anything to logged out users. Because of this, when you create a button (on your site) linking to an Instagram page, the button name ends up being "Login • Instagram" (that's because you're getting the Open Graph preview of the page you're redirected to, i.e. the login..!) You could probably have an exception for Instagram and when linking to instagram.com/<username>, force the button name to be @<username>. Not ideal, certainly, but maybe a bit better? Congrats again and happy launch! EDIT: I initially didn't see that the mobile viewport /is/ visible when designing on desktop! my bad! I removed my original note
mat111 5y ago
I would rather pay $79 USD a month for this than what I get with leadpages that I mostly use for easy editing/creation. One click editing was awesome right on the homepage. Love this and can imagine using it for a number of quick things. If I were leadpages or a similar company I'd buy this outright right now before y'all build up your own community and the price reflects that. If you're thinking of a model I'd suggest doing pay per export for source code/external host, let people build & then export full css/html/etc for like $9 a project. Keep the hosted on your domain free or mostly free and you'll make an industry of people who will justify the small project cost for the time savings of a true drag & drop editor
- canada_dry 5y ago
  > I'd pay $79 USD a month for this Uh... wow.
- xhfloz 5y ago
  hey! want to DM me @xhfloz, or email me at xh at mmm dot page — would love to discuss this with you
- uncomputation 5y ago
  > export full css/html/etc for like $9 a project What about View Page Source > mypage.html? I like the idea of paying per project somehow but this particular method seems not strong
snarkypixel 5y ago
So cool! The UX is amazing, will definitely recommend to my little cousins.
paulpauper 5y ago
drag and drop tends to create major code bloat. i dunno if this is different.
- Zetaphor 5y ago
  The target audience for a site like this generally isn't aware of or concerned with things like code bloat.
dalmo3 5y ago
Just a tiny detail that all pages return 404, even though they open fine.
maxehmookau 5y ago
Wait.... did Hacker News just create Geocities?
Rphad 5y ago
Damn, I didn't think I'd spend so much time on it, it's awesome. There are basic features lacking imo but it's great ! Oh and you can check my page here : https://mmm.page/Rphad.yolo https://mmm.page/Rphad.yolo
gwph 5y ago
This is so much more expressive than the other wysiwyg editors I’ve used. Great job!
adventured 5y ago
Messed with editing the landing page for a bit. I like it, well done. Editing is intuitive, not much of a hassle. Things react & do what I expect they should. As others have mentioned, definitely add a random mmm link, to see other mmms, or otherwise add a spotlight to show off what people can / have done with it. Also make it more obvious you can edit the landing page, maybe provide a clickable link in the text that points out that you can edit the page (below the signup button at the top). And then provide a blank canvas page where people can screw around; if they like their mess, they can sign up and save it.
catchmeifyoucan 5y ago
This was fun! I might consider making my personal site in this. I do have a blog, so maybe even a way to export as HTML would be awesome :) One feature request that would help a lot is instead of uploading an image, providing the image source.
prismatix 5y ago
Really awesome tool and just what I was looking for. As someone with a design background, I do miss some tools that I'm used to having - like the eyedropper for example. One thing that would be cool to see in iteration would be responsiveness instead of just showing the mobile cutoff, but overall for a first-pass I think this is a great tool! Nice job.
chadlavi 5y ago
The editable landing page is a great intro to the product, but it would maybe be good to have a big CTA button above the fold that's like "Edit this page". Much more noticeable than the bottom right corner pencil button. EDIT: though of course your main CTA is to drive signups. That makes sense too. Maybe this is a secondary CTA right under the signup button? Also the signup button is below the fold on smaller windows, might want to reconsider the size of the text above it (at least on viewports that are <700px tall?)
tmountain 5y ago
I love the concept, and I was having a lot of fun building my first page; however, I had to restart my computer after adding about half a dozen page elements, and all my progress was lost. It'd be great if work was saved as it was edited on the page.
dana321 5y ago
Really cool stuff, here is my microsite i made for the music i made that i uploaded to youtube: https://mmm.page/danstar.main https://mmm.page/danstar.main
- rchaud 5y ago
  If I could make a suggestion, I'd be more likely to click on the video links if you added a little bit about yourself. Where are you from? What music inspired you? Why did you choose to remix this or that song? I did click anyway as I'm a fan of the Prodigy and saw a Climbatize remix.
G4BB3R 5y ago
I played for a few minutes, and when I refreshed my page my entire progress was lost.
syx 5y ago
Great stuff! love the idea, design and animations are slick! Everything is so simple and smooth! A few things that come to my mind if you'd like to continue developing this project: - if a user enters a link to a subpage owned by the same user I think there shouldn't be a `target="_blank"` - maybe add a button to disable the layout red lines tips as it could get annoying when you have lots of overlapped objects, although it might be an edge case [1] - one minor advice is some folks are probably going to complain about collection of the user emails for the sign-up so I'd suggest making some privacy policy just to be transparent. [1] https://mmm.page/simone.computer https://mmm.page/simone.computer
mfkp 5y ago
The layout is ... slightly broken on Edge browser on Android. (And zoom is disabled) https://i.imgur.com/2RoR52Y.jpg https://i.imgur.com/2RoR52Y.jpg
heuristo 5y ago
This is really fun and cool. I haven't said that about a web tool in years. I think some other outfit, maybe it was ".me" or something had something personal but it wasn't fun. Great job! Hope you can keep it going!
slmjkdbtl 5y ago
upvote for the "messy encouraged" a lot of times tools decide how the works will generally look like, hope people can really make something wildly different with this
digitalsin 5y ago
This is a lot of fun!
rchaud 5y ago
This looks like a lot of fun, speaking as someone who loves the weirdness of the old web, but understands the challenges of re-creating such 'messy by design' sites with pure HTML/CSS. Wordpress has moved in this direction with Gutenberg (where you can add 'blocks' inside the <article> element for things like columns, tables, images, iframes. Full Site Editing has been "coming soon" for a while however. But even so, Wordpress (or Wix or Squarespace) isn't offering the "Clippy meets PowerPoint" level of drag and drop that can result in fun sites. For example, rotating an element so it appears a little off-centre and askew isn't supported out of the box in WP Gutenberg. You have to be able to edit your CSS file to do this. Whereas in PowerPoint, you can rotate and scale elements easily.
kome 5y ago
https://mmm.page/oo.main https://mmm.page/oo.main I like it :)
offtop5 5y ago
Love it, add custom URLS! The next time I start a new project, I might use this for a landing page !
breck 5y ago
Reminds me of a site a while ago called NewHive.
dmje 5y ago
Love it.
throwaway_isms 5y ago
https://mmm.page/Geocities.Geocities https://mmm.page/Geocities.Geocities
osetinsky 5y ago
this is excellent – great work!
seabass 5y ago
Is there anywhere we can view examples or demo sites?
TenJack 5y ago
This is great! Where do these GIFs with transparent backgrounds come from? I’ve seen them on other peoples mmm.pages
cush 5y ago
Rad.
xikrib 5y ago
This is awesome! Love the solution to responsiveness, that's really clever.
mikulabc 5y ago
Why is everyone forcing email logins? How can i give this to my coworker to work on with my email if he doesnt have a password? What is the easy solution for me without me having to forward the login email each time?
edisondotme 5y ago
I like it, but I won't consider using it until it lets me set a username and password (and preferably with 2FA as well) instead of the "we'll email you a login link" thing.
ammar_x 5y ago
This is great. Of course it needs more features but it's a great start. I always search for apps that let you design web pages with extreme simplicity like this. One suggestion: please support right-to-left languages like Arabic; not hard at all :)

591 points by xhfloz 5y ago

I mean honestly, this is pretty good stuff. Nice job!

Hey HN! Been thinking about something like this for a long time, and finally decided to work on it three months ago. Excited to show everyone today! . ———— TLDR ———— I built a website builder (works on desktop & mobile) that makes it easy to create automatically-responsive, collage-like websites -- websites that allow you to overlap text, images, GIFs, YouTube videos, etc. etc. Check it out @ https://build.mmm.page https://build.mmm.page Feel free to RT https://twitter.com/xhfloz/status/1392438711367909376 https://twitter.com/xhfloz/status/1392438711367909376 to help :) . ———— Nitty Gritty Details ———— * Every page is automatically responsive (a demonstration of how is shown on the homepage). * Allow text, images, GIFs, shapes, YouTube videos to start (much more planned). * Everybody gets their own URL/namespace @ mmm.page/USERNAME * _Actual_ drag and drop! No grid-locking (though there are layout alignment guides). * Tiny cool thing -- try pinching and zooming on your touchpad (rotate works on Safari too). . ———— Motivation ———— There seems to be fewer and fewer personal websites -- many of which now look increasingly similar -- and, yet, more people than ever have some Graphic Design Lite experience (a la Snapchat & Instagram), so I figured, it could be interesting to see websites made with a similar style, WYSIWYG composer as Snapchat/IG. (That, and the math to do these layouts manually is always too much hassle for me.) . ———— Updates to Come ———— A lot still needs to be done, but wanted to share today to gather some feedback -- hope you find it useful! Feel free to follow me on Twitter for updates (https://twitter.com/xhfloz https://twitter.com/xhfloz) . -- XH (https://mmm.page/xh.main https://mmm.page/xh.main)

HugoDaniel 5y ago
awesome work! I love the flow, the simple concept of toolbar+modals for the UI, the premade sensible options. Oh and those menus and icons are very cool, did you use any special frontend framework? anyway, keep it up! this is great :)
densekernel 5y ago
Awesome! On trend with the aesthetic. How did you accomplish the responsiveness with such a flexible layout?
- kickscondor 5y ago
  Not the creator, but looking at the source - everything is sized using 'rem' units. (Height, width, positioning of all the elements.) Kind of like using a percentage. style="height: 0.160992rem; width: 1.00383rem; left: 0.5rem; top: 0.273827rem; ..." This can be used because `font-size` on the root html tag is set to the width in pixels of the screen - or 600px maximum. And then font sizes for all the elements are specified individually.
input_sh 5y ago
FYI nothing happens after clicking on Chaos Monkey → Proceed. I thought it was because uBO blocks sentry requests, but even when whitelisted, requests are made, but nothing happens.
eevahr 5y ago
Very cool, interested to see whats behind the editor!
delibes 5y ago
It looks fun. Well done! One thought I had ... it'd be useful if you can add some features to support accessibility.
michaelbrooks 5y ago
Awesome work, I really like what you're doing with this. I created my own personal page and followed each of the steps. However, I can't update the email, Twitter and IG links on each button. Am I missing something, or is this a bug? I'm on desktop using FF.
- easton 5y ago
  Those buttons are filler buttons, you have to drag a new button out to customize it (it showed a message about this for me, perhaps the developer updated it since your comment?)
  - michaelbrooks 5y ago
    Ah, I must have missed that and deleted the label. Thank you so much for your help.
dangoor 5y ago
I'd love to be able to use this sort of editor to produce a static site that I control. My websites are currently static and deployed via netlify, but it would be awesome to create some pages with a tool like this.
john-doe 5y ago
Something that could be great, and aligns with the general "collage" vibe, would be to allow (sandboxed) iframes… (by the way, I'm glad you're using "nocookie" for youtube)
xhfloz 5y ago
Just launched on PH if anyone wants to show some support ! https://www.producthunt.com/posts/mmm-page-3 https://www.producthunt.com/posts/mmm-page-3

Joe8Bit 5y ago

> Websites shouldn't all look the same. We prefer campy, kitschy, messy, imperfect. I really like the design aesthethic this product encourages. There's so much charm and fun and eccentricity that's lost in a web where full-height responsive image backgrounds and blocky design frameworks are ubiquitous. If this can help people express just a little bit of the wild creativity of things like early 2000's MySpace layouts or GeoCities pages I'll be a big fan!

keithnz 5y ago
I think now that many live in a youtube/twitter/twitch/facebook/insta sandbox where you can't customize your "space" very much, those days of people crafting their own corner of the internet is really gone.
- aetherspawn 5y ago
  I can imagine that this product would transition very well into a social network that creatives, artists and such would find very appealing.
  - chiefalchemist 5y ago
    Yes!! Why not, the website as art? As the medium and the message? A network of creative expression? Or as a "diary" where every entry is more scrapbook-y and less uniform blog? Could be fun. We need more fun.
    - indigochill 5y ago
      Honestly, because it takes work. I'm not even talking about technical work, but creative work. To do this well, you want to think about your message and then about how to convey that message not just in the content, but in how the content is presented (sometimes geocities-esque chaos isn't quite the right vibe). Then you need to figure out how to fit that presentation into the assumptions of your web technology (I personally feel like the DOM is a straitjacket, but I'll concede since I don't work heavily in the front-end myself, maybe there are cute hacks that make it less so, short of just making the page a full canvas for something else like three.js) Anyway, I've developed two "fun" pages myself, playing around with alternative ways to present content on the web: 1. https://maxsond.github.io/ https://maxsond.github.io/ (website traversal as interactive fiction) 2. http://tilde.town/~indigo/ http://tilde.town/~indigo/ (website traversal as pseudo-CLI) Neither of them really flesh it out to what one might consider a full website, but are more light-weight experiments in alternative ways webpages can present content.

readingnews 5y ago

This does feel quite myspace-y, but the burning question would be... is this all just like myspace. e.g. if I leave or spend hours creating something, it is nearly impossible to move it or back it up to something else?

Gys 5y ago

First impression is very good. However, it requires signup to actually try / use. I have several websites, but currently have no need for such so I just left again. Probably to never return because I never remember sites that I only visit a few seconds. Would be better to let my try and get me hooked, to get ideas for remodeling one of my existing websites.

john-doe 5y ago
> it requires signup to actually try / use Just hit the bottom right "edit" button
- AltF4me 5y ago
  Nice. Maybe edit should be the CTA rather than sign up?
- Kuraj 5y ago
  I would have never discovered it if it wasn't for your comment
- Gys 5y ago
  Thanks. Saw it but did not click because I thought it to be for chat.

Deukhoofd 5y ago

It looks very nice! I played around with it a bit, and one of the main things I missed is some kind of hierarchy/grouping. If some text is inside a box, and I drag the box around I'd want the text to move with it. Currently I have to drag each individual part of a group to move it.

herunan 5y ago

I really do hope this ‘scrappy’ approach to websites keeps growing. Bit tired of the homogenisation of the web lately.

shtack 5y ago

This is awesome, I’ve been looking for something like this (particularly for mobile) for a while. One small issue I came across is a photo I uploaded came out with the wrong aspect ratio and I can’t seem to fix it.

jimbler 5y ago

This is going to get some love. Its the right product insight(even the simplest template driven sites are too hard once you get past the basics). You're working off a good consumer insight ("i want this site to look very different"). I like the details (chaos monkey). Super simple to understand and use.

lalo2302 5y ago

Great stuff! I'd recommend making the "Edit" button a bit more noticeable, took me a while to find it. Also do you have planned custom domains? Great job!

oefrha 5y ago

> 12.6 MB transferred, 21.8 MB resources Personally I much prefer websites that don't use up that much bandwidth. Let's take https://asset.mmm.page/77/a05aa5533e4f3a97080c63f9b70189/04-min.png https://asset.mmm.page/77/a05aa5533e4f3a97080c63f9b70189/04-.... 4,748,611 bytes, 2602x4336 pixels, actually rendered at a ~150x250px size. Do you really need to ship that many pixels? I hope more people pay attention to reducing bloat than looking campy, kitschy, messy, imperfect.

Toutouxc 5y ago

The ease of editing scratches an itch I didn't know I had.

quickthrower2 5y ago
Editing the very landing page feels naughty! It’s fun!

thih9 5y ago

I wish the "edit" button was more visible. I noticed it only on my second visit. After I found it, I enjoyed playing with the page and the first hand experience a lot more than reading about it. During my first visit I wasn't impressed but now the product looks cool to me.

vidarh 5y ago
I was about to say the same. Make it bigger. Make it pulse. Mention high up in the text.... Or something. I scanned through the page and was annoyed there didn't seem to be a way of testing it without signing up and was about to leave when I spotted the edit button.
neop1x 5y ago
Yes, I also saw Sign up first and at the time I was about to leave I noticed the Edit button. It mentioned I can "click Edit and try" but it was not clear I can do that immediately at the landing page without registration.

unilynx 5y ago

I miss a 'Jump to random mmm.page'. No time or creativity to add something myself, but I'd like to get a few impressions on the jumbly messy things that are being made..

xhfloz 5y ago
gallery coming soon — i've been resharing some nice pages on https://twitter.com/xhfloz https://twitter.com/xhfloz in the meantime!
rchaud 5y ago
Great idea, would be good to see what users have created. It shouldn't be totally random though, as that could just go to a bunch of incomplete sites. It should be curated a little bit.

bencoder 5y ago

This is really great!

swashbuck1r 5y ago

The flexible WYSIWYG editing is top-notch! I’m sure you’ll get a thousand feedback ideas, but... if a next goal was to get folks to make it an expression/view of themselves, it would be good to help them connect content that they are already making back into their page. Being able to drop in a API feed of their tweets, blog posts or videos — and then applying some of your kitschy formatting to it — might bring back even more of that MySpace feel...

Kiro 5y ago

Very nice but don't really understand "Every page is mindlessly responsive so they work across screen sizes". Doesn't seem to do anything to make it responsive unless I misunderstand something (just tried to resize the window and anything not in the narrow column in the middle ended up outside the screen). I would like to add "breakpoints" and make adjustments just for the screen size I'm currently viewing it in.

JMill 5y ago
While my inner webdev agrees with you, my interpretation of the mmm.page philosophy is that planning "breakpoints" etc takes too much thought, and hence runs against the "mindless" aspect. "Mindlessly responsive" -> When the content is outside the demarcated safe zone, it's not visible on little screens. Simple ruleset, no brain required. If I just want to get some fun content on a webpage, I either paint in the lines or intentionally paint beyond them.

schmorptron 5y ago

Hey, I really liked the registration process - getting the email verification in first and then having really simple onboarding makes for a great experience. Also, the aesthetic is so fun!

dubcanada 5y ago

This is so cool! I found it extremely easy to edit a site on mobile, which is probably the hardest thing to get right. Very well done! One note though, keyboard shortcuts don't work (pressing delete after clicking on a element doesn't delete it for example)

Closi 5y ago

I 100% love it - this is super fun!

hailpixel 5y ago

I love this app's approach to responsive design: just show the "safe" area and let people throw elements where ever. So liberating.

Nullabillity 5y ago
Eh, as a desktop user it sucks to still get the same patronising and space-wasting mobile design.

domano 5y ago

I love it! Especially the editability of the landing page itself! I really hope this takes off - so much more creativity-inducing than squarespace or whatever! Does not really work for me since i am not really the target audience, but i really hope this gets a lot of exposure.

SamWhited 5y ago

I hate making a new login that I have to remember for things I might not even use. It would be nice if you could create the website first, then only sign up if you liked it and wanted to save it. This stops me from testing cool looking projects like this all the time :( EDIT: that being said, I love that you can edit the landing page itself, that at least gives me some idea of how it works, although then if I turn it into something interesting I have to start over when I sign up.

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WORMS_EAT_WORMS 5y ago
Hit the edit button, bottom right for a small sample. Agree on onboarding. You also have to re-enter your email after you click your email link which was annoying. But... this is 100% nitpicking. I think they crushed launch at making this appealing.
- flanbiscuit 5y ago
  > Hit the edit button, bottom right for a small sample. I didn't even notice that! What a cool idea to be able to test out the site by editing the home page itself
  - WORMS_EAT_WORMS 5y ago
    Would be disgusting chaos but also would be cool to let anyone edit the page so it is forever changing -- obviously working out the issues of blocking/hiding texts. Or social, imagine how much fun it would be to leave stickers/stamps on approved friend's websites.
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PinkPigeon 5y ago
So I think this is an excellent point. I'd love to do something like that for my product as well. However, there are a few considerations, some of bigger consequence than others: - How do you keep users from losing their data when they leave and come back? Cookies with an ID are a brittle solution. You could have a unique link, where the user's work is saved right up until they want to register - How do you deal with the inevitable onslaught of people using an open system? If you're bootstrapping like me, I don't think I could possibly handle the influx of an HN frontpage's worth of people simultaneously hammering the system - When do you clean house? You won't necessarily know whether someone wants to build a site, disappear for a month and then come back to it. Feels unlikely, but it's still possible. All of this would be solved by having (at the very least) a quick email-only signup, which auto-generates a password and a welcome email, but also takes you straight into the system. It's a small barrier to entry, but perhaps one that's worth putting in place to avoid hammering the server(s) too much? What do you think of video content showing off the system, could that help as a sort of interim solution?

alexobenauer 5y ago

This is fantastic. Nice work. Just because of Geocities-era sites, I really wanted there to be graphical visit counter elements I could add to a page.

BeniBoy 5y ago

Looks great, but little bug on my system (Firefox 87 for Android 11), scroll does not work.. But on my computer, it sure looks good, will recommend to my less tech-savy friends!

xhfloz 5y ago
can you try it again? this should be resolved
- BeniBoy 5y ago
  Yep, it's fixed. Congrats on the launch!

CyanDeparture 5y ago

After reading that article on Corporate Memphis yesterday, I can't decribe how much I love the design of this landing page.

twoslide 5y ago

I found it unusable on Firefox 81 (including with No addons). Clicks don't work at all - seems to work fine on Chromium. I suggest testing on a broader range of browsers. Edit: It's just my version, not an issue with the site.

likeafox 5y ago
It's running surprisingly fast on FF 88 for me, just for the record.
aetherspawn 5y ago
I am using Firefox 88 (std, auto update) and it works fine. Most polyfill libraries only support the last 2 major versions on greenfield browsers because they update themselves -- perhaps there is a problem with your auto updater?
- twoslide 5y ago
  Probably - stupid "managed" updates from my organization. Probably should just uninstall the managed version and install the normal version from the web.
dubcanada 5y ago
The issue on Firefox 81 seems to be a z-index issue with the edit toggle button. Setting it up a 100 fixes it. On Firefox 81 the z-index seems to be calculated to z-index: -2147483648; Is there a particular reason you are using a 1 year old version of Firefox?
xhfloz 5y ago
Sorry haven't been good @ replying, but just fixed this bug!

aetherspawn 5y ago

I found it amusing that the 'stroke' tab of the sticker presets gives you a variety of random brush strokes, smudges etc. It also gives you a single sticker of a brain flashing 'aphasia', which is a literal type of medical stroke that causes brain damage and possibly insensitive on that tab!

jtvjan 5y ago
Looks like it just searches giphy.com for transparent GIFs.

yawnxyz 5y ago

that's incredible! Good job bringing back the fun of Geocities yet making everything modern

mcintyre1994 5y ago

This is pretty fun, but I can't figure out how you do most of what you have on the home page. I'm not sure if it's just me or some of the coolest things are too hard to discover. A few examples: When I go to shapes they're all 2d and I can't find a way to make them 3d like yours are. I'm also not sure how to rotate objects, even if I click on the rotated YouTube video I can't figure out how to do it/how I can change its rotation. Also is this a typo? "Every page is mindlessly responsive so they work across screen sizes" Should mindlessly be automatically?

tyingq 5y ago
The 3d shapes are images, so "Add Image" rather than "Add Shape". You would have to find your own images. To rotate, click on something and move your cursor just to the outside of one of the corners. Your cursor will change to a curved arrow, and you can rotate.

tzekid 5y ago

All apple gestures (pinch to zoom, 2 finger swipe for navigation) don't work at all. That's kind of a deal breaker for me ...

PeterBarrett 5y ago

Great alternative to the likes of linktree. Nice and intuitive too.

cwmartin 5y ago

This feels like it’s in the same family as straw.page[1]. Both are a really refreshing break from homogeneous minimalist web design that’s taken hold over the past few years. [1]: https://straw.page/start https://straw.page/start / https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26124581 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26124581

swyx 5y ago
this reminds me of https://e.gg/ https://e.gg/ by facebook NPE too

ub99 5y ago

Great job! The builder is fun and intuitive. I especially like how you handle responsiveness - very smooth. Do you basically use relative units (eg percentages) for all sizes and distances to accomplish that?

kickscondor 5y ago

Too fun! https://mmm.page/kicks.condor https://mmm.page/kicks.condor Anyone else making a page out there?

Aulig 5y ago
Hey - you shouldn't hate yourself. I'll gladly be your fan :)
- kickscondor 5y ago
  Yay! (≧◡≦) Let's see how long this lasts.
b212 5y ago
That Recycle Bin though... Simply perfect.
Rphad 5y ago
https://mmm.page/Rphad.yolo https://mmm.page/Rphad.yolo
tmountain 5y ago
https://mmm.page/chedraui.main https://mmm.page/chedraui.main
vesche 5y ago
https://mmm.page/vesche.main https://mmm.page/vesche.main
swyx 5y ago
https://mmm.page/swyx.io https://mmm.page/swyx.io
mvexel 5y ago
<marquee>https://mmm.page/maps.main</marquee> https://mmm.page/maps.main</marquee>
digitalsin 5y ago

The_rationalist 5y ago

I miss geocities..

Jonovono 5y ago

It's cool, but whats your main draw over E.gg by Instagram or Universe Web Builder

kickscondor 5y ago
e.gg never actually launched, right? And the others just don't have the same flare at all...
- Jonovono 5y ago
  It's on iOS: https://e.gg https://e.gg. Agree, I do think the vibes of this are a bit better.

mvexel 5y ago

Fantastic! I do think it needs webrings.

crazypython 5y ago

I love that it fuels creative freedom, but this seems to be proprietary, which means freedom is still restricted. Consider releasing code under AGPLv3 and styling/pictures GFDLv1.3? (GFDL has very strong attribution requirements: you must keep it as part of the title and include other parts.)

gregsadetsky 5y ago

Congrats, it's really great! A small comment: - Instagram has recently become much more aggressive in not showing anything to logged out users. Because of this, when you create a button (on your site) linking to an Instagram page, the button name ends up being "Login • Instagram" (that's because you're getting the Open Graph preview of the page you're redirected to, i.e. the login..!) You could probably have an exception for Instagram and when linking to instagram.com/<username>, force the button name to be @<username>. Not ideal, certainly, but maybe a bit better? Congrats again and happy launch! EDIT: I initially didn't see that the mobile viewport /is/ visible when designing on desktop! my bad! I removed my original note

mat111 5y ago

I would rather pay $79 USD a month for this than what I get with leadpages that I mostly use for easy editing/creation. One click editing was awesome right on the homepage. Love this and can imagine using it for a number of quick things. If I were leadpages or a similar company I'd buy this outright right now before y'all build up your own community and the price reflects that. If you're thinking of a model I'd suggest doing pay per export for source code/external host, let people build & then export full css/html/etc for like $9 a project. Keep the hosted on your domain free or mostly free and you'll make an industry of people who will justify the small project cost for the time savings of a true drag & drop editor

canada_dry 5y ago
> I'd pay $79 USD a month for this Uh... wow.
xhfloz 5y ago
hey! want to DM me @xhfloz, or email me at xh at mmm dot page — would love to discuss this with you
uncomputation 5y ago
> export full css/html/etc for like $9 a project What about View Page Source > mypage.html? I like the idea of paying per project somehow but this particular method seems not strong

snarkypixel 5y ago

So cool! The UX is amazing, will definitely recommend to my little cousins.

paulpauper 5y ago

drag and drop tends to create major code bloat. i dunno if this is different.

Zetaphor 5y ago
The target audience for a site like this generally isn't aware of or concerned with things like code bloat.

dalmo3 5y ago

Just a tiny detail that all pages return 404, even though they open fine.

maxehmookau 5y ago

Wait.... did Hacker News just create Geocities?

Rphad 5y ago

Damn, I didn't think I'd spend so much time on it, it's awesome. There are basic features lacking imo but it's great ! Oh and you can check my page here : https://mmm.page/Rphad.yolo https://mmm.page/Rphad.yolo

gwph 5y ago

This is so much more expressive than the other wysiwyg editors I’ve used. Great job!

adventured 5y ago

Messed with editing the landing page for a bit. I like it, well done. Editing is intuitive, not much of a hassle. Things react & do what I expect they should. As others have mentioned, definitely add a random mmm link, to see other mmms, or otherwise add a spotlight to show off what people can / have done with it. Also make it more obvious you can edit the landing page, maybe provide a clickable link in the text that points out that you can edit the page (below the signup button at the top). And then provide a blank canvas page where people can screw around; if they like their mess, they can sign up and save it.

catchmeifyoucan 5y ago

This was fun! I might consider making my personal site in this. I do have a blog, so maybe even a way to export as HTML would be awesome :) One feature request that would help a lot is instead of uploading an image, providing the image source.

prismatix 5y ago

Really awesome tool and just what I was looking for. As someone with a design background, I do miss some tools that I'm used to having - like the eyedropper for example. One thing that would be cool to see in iteration would be responsiveness instead of just showing the mobile cutoff, but overall for a first-pass I think this is a great tool! Nice job.

chadlavi 5y ago

The editable landing page is a great intro to the product, but it would maybe be good to have a big CTA button above the fold that's like "Edit this page". Much more noticeable than the bottom right corner pencil button. EDIT: though of course your main CTA is to drive signups. That makes sense too. Maybe this is a secondary CTA right under the signup button? Also the signup button is below the fold on smaller windows, might want to reconsider the size of the text above it (at least on viewports that are <700px tall?)

tmountain 5y ago

I love the concept, and I was having a lot of fun building my first page; however, I had to restart my computer after adding about half a dozen page elements, and all my progress was lost. It'd be great if work was saved as it was edited on the page.

dana321 5y ago

Really cool stuff, here is my microsite i made for the music i made that i uploaded to youtube: https://mmm.page/danstar.main https://mmm.page/danstar.main

rchaud 5y ago
If I could make a suggestion, I'd be more likely to click on the video links if you added a little bit about yourself. Where are you from? What music inspired you? Why did you choose to remix this or that song? I did click anyway as I'm a fan of the Prodigy and saw a Climbatize remix.

G4BB3R 5y ago

I played for a few minutes, and when I refreshed my page my entire progress was lost.

syx 5y ago

Great stuff! love the idea, design and animations are slick! Everything is so simple and smooth! A few things that come to my mind if you'd like to continue developing this project: - if a user enters a link to a subpage owned by the same user I think there shouldn't be a `target="_blank"` - maybe add a button to disable the layout red lines tips as it could get annoying when you have lots of overlapped objects, although it might be an edge case [1] - one minor advice is some folks are probably going to complain about collection of the user emails for the sign-up so I'd suggest making some privacy policy just to be transparent. [1] https://mmm.page/simone.computer https://mmm.page/simone.computer

mfkp 5y ago

The layout is ... slightly broken on Edge browser on Android. (And zoom is disabled) https://i.imgur.com/2RoR52Y.jpg https://i.imgur.com/2RoR52Y.jpg

heuristo 5y ago

This is really fun and cool. I haven't said that about a web tool in years. I think some other outfit, maybe it was ".me" or something had something personal but it wasn't fun. Great job! Hope you can keep it going!

slmjkdbtl 5y ago

upvote for the "messy encouraged" a lot of times tools decide how the works will generally look like, hope people can really make something wildly different with this

digitalsin 5y ago

This is a lot of fun!

rchaud 5y ago

This looks like a lot of fun, speaking as someone who loves the weirdness of the old web, but understands the challenges of re-creating such 'messy by design' sites with pure HTML/CSS. Wordpress has moved in this direction with Gutenberg (where you can add 'blocks' inside the <article> element for things like columns, tables, images, iframes. Full Site Editing has been "coming soon" for a while however. But even so, Wordpress (or Wix or Squarespace) isn't offering the "Clippy meets PowerPoint" level of drag and drop that can result in fun sites. For example, rotating an element so it appears a little off-centre and askew isn't supported out of the box in WP Gutenberg. You have to be able to edit your CSS file to do this. Whereas in PowerPoint, you can rotate and scale elements easily.

kome 5y ago

https://mmm.page/oo.main https://mmm.page/oo.main I like it :)

offtop5 5y ago

Love it, add custom URLS! The next time I start a new project, I might use this for a landing page !

breck 5y ago

Reminds me of a site a while ago called NewHive.

dmje 5y ago

Love it.

throwaway_isms 5y ago

https://mmm.page/Geocities.Geocities https://mmm.page/Geocities.Geocities

osetinsky 5y ago

this is excellent – great work!

seabass 5y ago

Is there anywhere we can view examples or demo sites?

TenJack 5y ago

This is great! Where do these GIFs with transparent backgrounds come from? I’ve seen them on other peoples mmm.pages

cush 5y ago

Rad.

xikrib 5y ago

This is awesome! Love the solution to responsiveness, that's really clever.

mikulabc 5y ago

Why is everyone forcing email logins? How can i give this to my coworker to work on with my email if he doesnt have a password? What is the easy solution for me without me having to forward the login email each time?

edisondotme 5y ago

I like it, but I won't consider using it until it lets me set a username and password (and preferably with 2FA as well) instead of the "we'll email you a login link" thing.

ammar_x 5y ago

This is great. Of course it needs more features but it's a great start. I always search for apps that let you design web pages with extreme simplicity like this. One suggestion: please support right-to-left languages like Arabic; not hard at all :)