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Hatetris – Tetris which always gives you the worst piece
- kwdc 5y agoI feel like there should be a middle ground alternative where its normal tetris for awhile but then it just goes nasty. First it lulls you into a false sense of security and proficiency then it strikes hard.
- andrewflnr 5y ago"Show HN" is generally for things you made yourself, and I'm fairly confident you are not Sam.
- jtbayly 5y agoDoesn't this mean that you'd never get a long or square piece?
- anotha1 5y agoIt depends on the algo. So not if it's optimizing for least placements to insert that would clear a row.
- innocenat 5y agoNo. For example, there are no flat part on your playing field, then you would get square.
- goda90 5y agoI layered S pieces horizontally across the bottom and then it gave me a long piece.
- Cthulhu_ 5y agoOnly if you can't use it to finish a line at that time, lol.
- SamBam 5y agoI got several square pieces, because I was able to get to a state where any other piece would fit into the remaining 1x1 hole, and so a square piece was the only thing that would block me.
- polyamid23 5y agoIt literaly gives me the same piece everytime. Don't know if it is broken or this piece is concidered to be the worst...
- xtracto 5y agoHaha, it gives you an S (Z), except when you are about to fill up a line. (place SSSSS together, filling the bottom space). Then it gives you a I. At some point it gave me an L and a J. The darn thing is really mischievous!
- geocrasher 5y agoYou spelled Monotonous wrong ;) It basically gives you the worst piece (Z) every time unless there's another worst piece. I got a 4 bar line OOOO and also an L once. Overall I just wasn't impressed. It reminds me of the level of tetris you'd reach after beating all the easier levels only to find that you got to the level that the game creators decided nobody could ever win because they didn't write an ending sequence.
- Wowfunhappy 5y agoI mean, it does exactly what it set out to do. It wasn’t meant to be fun.
- teachingassist 5y agoIt will keep giving you that piece until you threaten to get a line using only that piece.
- Wowfunhappy 5y agoIf you think it's broken, then you should try to clear some lines, I dare you! >:D
- emehrkay 5y agoFor about 15 years I've been trying to figure out how to articulate a `Tetris is life` essay. "Things are going good, you're given an S piece that doesnt fit anywhere. You have to decide where you'll put that blocking piece so that you can hopefully clear it later. This might be an unexpected car repair bill or a death that you aren't emotionally capable of addressing ... You're in control, you have a good job, a great partner, and yall are saving to buy a house -- basically waiting for an l piece to complete your `Tetris`..." Anyway, this game of (ha)Tetris is a lot like a lot of people's lives, just roadblock after roadblock. While the normal version where you start from zero on level one is probably an upper middle class life. And Id say that the majority of people in the world start on level 6 with the board halfway filled with a bunch of gaps and the pieces move at a speed that is barely controllable (im thinking of the classic gameboy version when I imagine these boards) Hatetris is cool. I couldn't get one line and I consider myself a damn good tetris player. It kept giving me S pieces and threw a Z in there and then an l
- js8 5y ago> Anyway, this game of (ha)Tetris is a lot like a lot of people's lives, just roadblock after roadblock. They should make a multiplayer version where you could pass the pieces you don't like to other players!
- hprotagonist 5y agohttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tetris_99 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tetris_99
- codetrotter 5y agoRelevant parts of the Wikipedia article linked to by parent: > Tetris 99 is a multiplayer puzzle game in which 99 players play against each other at the same time, with the aim to be the last player remaining. [...] As with normal Tetris rules, players have the option to store a tetromino piece to swap out at any time. By clearing multiple lines or performing continuous line clears in a row, players can send "garbage" to other players, which will appear on their board unless they can quickly clear lines in response. More garbage can be sent by completing combination moves in succession of making a "tetris" (matching 4 lines at once) or performing a "T-spin" (squeezing the T-shaped tetromino into a position it would otherwise not fall into by rapidly rotating it).
- qsort 5y agoOpen-ended homework for those who are interested: solve the same problem, but with actual Tetris rules. I've seen a bunch of those "adversarial tetris" variants, and they all operate under the assumption that any of the seven pieces can appear at any time, and with only one preview. Modern Tetris has 3 previews + hold, and pieces are drawn randomly "from a bag", without replacement (more formally, if P[i] is the sequence of pieces, each aligned subsequence of 7 pieces must be a permutation of the tetrominos). This would be more interesting to make/play. Note that under such rules there exists a strategy that allows infinite play if the well is at least 17 tiles high.
- etxm 5y agoDid you just nerd snipe all of HN?
- qsort 5y agoKind of a self-snipe, really :) I spent more time that's reasonable on Tetris, but mostly on modern variants. The 'classic' tetris most people are used to feels kind of weird to me.
- jandrese 5y agoTo be fair, the random piece selection is how the Tetris on the NES and GB worked, which is how many Americans were introduced to Tetris. Getting 5 Z or S pieces in a row was definitely something that happens regularly in those versions. An interesting note about the versions that use the piece bag strategy is that the game can be solved. It's possible to play until the game speeds up to the point where you can no longer get a piece to the edge of the screen before it hits the bottom. https://tetris.wiki/Playing_forever https://tetris.wiki/Playing_forever Fun fact, Tetris is NP-Hard. https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/mathematicians-prove-tetr/ https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/mathematicians-pr...
- username90 5y agoThe most popular Tetris was the original, it is one of the most sold video games ever, and it didn't even allow you to hold a piece. That is what people think of when they hear Tetris, it isn't old enough that the people who played it back then are dead.
- bmosse 5y agodoes anyone know what happened to Evil Tetris, an old Mac game that had awesome sound effects (nice slide!)?
- bmosse 5y agoNevermind, found it: https://macintoshgarden.org/games/wesleyan-tetris https://macintoshgarden.org/games/wesleyan-tetris
- hyperdimension 5y agoI remember playing a game with the same principle; it was called `bastet'.
- hprotagonist 5y agosomewhere in north africa, a cat is really pissed off and doesn't know why.
- anthony_romeo 5y agoIt's in a number of linux package repos (it's at least in Ubuntu and Debian). Though I remember at least getting a few lines in Bastet. Hateris seemed to be a lot more difficult (as the article states should be the case).
- bayindirh 5y agoBastet has a hard setting, which is really torturing the naive souls playing it.
- dcanelhas 5y agohttp://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/bionic/man6/bastet.6.html http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/bionic/man6/bastet.6.htm...
- sswam 5y agoWhat has been will be again, what has been done will be done again; ... there is nothing new under the sun.
- eaplmx 5y agoWell, our team made an android version of bastet, renamed as bastard blocks. It was a quite interesting experiment understanding the original code, and trying to 'improve' (or worsen) the board analysis on Unity and C# https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.gemugami.bastardblocks https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.gemugami.b...
- LanceH 5y ago"Tetris 2020"
- Trufa 5y agoI got it to 5, how far are you all getting?
- zxexz 5y agoI got to 4. How did you get to 5?
- Trufa 5y agoSomething like this: ƔঔໃݎతටไङಗڒІھ௨ಧळथԬʦഉݸłɈฮࠇ௧ࡈҽݸłʜໂখħҨໃߝ௨೯ಸݹభඡСݹҬɦଈپϡټາɚ௧Ρܗঊ௨ΣІԔԥషÐלடټරߢࠒΟळॾصقຯক௨റඡڥϥԋUঊ୦ΞСݸԫقचࡆटƅ໗ॺ౫௨ଞݣಈఢƫɚ௫ΞܡॽԪՌ
- and0rskr 5y agoI got 6. Surprisingly, that seems like that's pretty good based on the comments. Basically stacked across the vertical (starting right and worked my way left).
- jdauriemma 5y agoI can't stop myself from smiling while playing, this is hilariously tricky
- linux2647 5y agoReminds me of https://xkcd.com/724/ https://xkcd.com/724/
- forgotpwd16 5y agoMake it playable using the userscript: https://gist.github.com/banthar/438067 https://gist.github.com/banthar/438067
- nautilus12 5y agoLol, it just gives me S pieces constantly.
- SamBam 5y agoRight, that's the first puzzle of the game. If you can't figure out how to score a row from only S's (it's not intuitive, because it's not what you'd do in normal Tetris if you got several S's), then it will keep giving you those. Once you work out how to make a line with S's, it will give you something else before you complete it.
- Asraelite 5y agoIt would be nice if it actually implemented SRS. I tried to do an S-twist and was disappointed that I couldn't.
- mikepurvis 5y agoVaguely related, but I've found the tetris-y mobile game High Rise to have a surprising amount of depth: https://smpl.productions/high-rise/ https://smpl.productions/high-rise/ I don't think the creators of it quite anticipated how effective the center-merge strategy could be at keeping the board clear, at least based on their surprised Twitter reactions to users (including myself) achieving scores into the low 7 figures. But given that the game has no timer or really anything that explicitly escalates the difficulty over time, once you figure out how to maintain steady state, you can theoretically play indefinitely (though it does very occasionally crash). This has raised an interesting question for me about what it would look like to have a version of High Rise with an adversarial bot choosing your pieces. Perhaps the bot's "meanness" of selection could escalate as you get into higher scores, with some kind of checkpoint system to start the game at certain milestones/hardnesses once you've proven you can consistently achieve them through ordinary play.
- unholiness 5y agoI feel like there's some bug where it gives me S's when a Z would clearly be worse. I managed 3 lines, all of which were completed by S's and would have been thwarted by Z's. In fact I'm not sure I got a Z all game, though it seems other commenters did.
- SamBam 5y agoI got a Z once when an S would have scored me a row. Did you keep the replay code of your game?
- alex7389 5y agoIn case you want to get your mood up afterwards, here's an easy version of the 2048 game: https://sbeyer.github.io/2048/ https://sbeyer.github.io/2048/
- kevincox 5y agoquadrapassel (open source GNOME Tetris) also has this option called "Choose difficult pieces".
- kakkun 5y agoHad no idea that the creator of Hatetris was also the author for There Is No Antimemetics Division. http://scp-wiki.wikidot.com/antimemetics-division-hub http://scp-wiki.wikidot.com/antimemetics-division-hub
- alanbernstein 5y agoI can't tell if there is actually a story by that title and it's not linked to for the obvious reason... or if that title just refers to the other related stories.
- cwmma 5y agoIt's the name of the book collecting the stories https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0915M7T61 https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0915M7T61
- k__ 5y agoThere is one story by that title and a book collecting all the related stories. Otherwise, the story and related stories are spread across the SCP database.
- alanbernstein 5y agoI love that this comment and its sibling contradict each other, confounding the question even more. It makes me hesitant to ask you for a link to the story.
- k__ 5y agohttp://www.scpwiki.com/antimemetics-division-hub http://www.scpwiki.com/antimemetics-division-hub
- AlphaWeaver 5y agoI KNEW I recognized the username from somewhere!
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- juancn 5y agoIt's mostly the S shaped piece for me.
- jetrink 5y agoSpeaking of Tetris and Hatetris, have you ever heard of Hatris? I just learned about it from last week's No Such Thing as a Fish podcast. Alexey Pajitnov, the creator of Tetris, continued to experiment with the Tetris formula. One of the games he made was called Hatris[2] which involves hats falling on people's heads. Entertainment Weekly reviewed it saying: "There is, after all, a cure for Tetris addiction. It’s Hatris.[3]" 1. https://www.nosuchthingasafish.com/ https://www.nosuchthingasafish.com/ 2. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ioHEQlTxiLY https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ioHEQlTxiLY 3. https://ew.com/article/1991/05/24/new-videogames/ https://ew.com/article/1991/05/24/new-videogames/
- rozab 5y agoHatris has nothing on the fourth installment, which is called 'Faces... tris III'. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Faces_(video_game) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Faces_(video_game)
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- techrat 5y agohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=joH9qU-vDeY https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=joH9qU-vDeY My god, it looks so infuriating... and not in the 'puzzle is hard' kind of way, but legitimately awful gameplay.
- Kaze404 5y agoLittle unknown fact. The rights to Hatris were then sold to Valve, which spawned the critically acclaimed game Team Fortress 2 :)
- huachimingo 5y agoOr Bop-It Tetris, where you had to rotate and push the pieces.
- chacha2 5y agohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EUJb1BD63ME https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EUJb1BD63ME Quick rundown of tetris history.
- MaxBarraclough 5y agoDirect playable link: https://qntm.org/files/hatetris/hatetris.html https://qntm.org/files/hatetris/hatetris.html
- jupp0r 5y agoI was looking for that in the readme, thanks!
- NaturalPhallacy 5y agoDoes it just give the S shaped piece? I tried playing and that's all I got.
- dmoy 5y agofrom their description > Yes, you will get a lot of S pieces. But it doesn't give you solely S pieces - if that were the case, then it would be possible to make lines forever, which is much too easy.
- moomin 5y agoThis is actually wrong. Some friends of mine proved that if you drop only S and Z pieces in an irrational ratio, the player is doomed irrespective of the dimensions of the board.
- temporalparts 5y agoThis is interesting! Can you link the proof?
- moomin 5y agoI can’t, but it was published in Eureka (Cambridge Maths Society/Archimedean journal) somewhere between 1988 and 1993 I think. I don’t know how to get old copies but they were all typeset in TeX. The same people also proved (earlier) that with 3-ominos its a win for the player. Incidentally, if you’re into cool maths that isn’t part of any major research line, Eureka is a great read.
- azhenley 5y agoThe writeup, which I find more interesting, is found here: https://qntm.org/hatetris https://qntm.org/hatetris
- malkia 5y agoGosh, I'm terrible - could not even get one line - "ಧشڻݎ౦ٴໃݓಈටරݹळడถGԥಛଟđԥඡॾஅԥऊඨݹࢴට౹ऐ௨ನȣԄێقࡎŦ௨ƩзʎഘࡄຣaذඖݕݶɼටࢳݹɼටŒऐԥടȣڢ௨ࡇ૭ɡԥƊЂɠணऊҮđԥɜลເஜشНڭଔ"
- malkia 5y agoOk, could this be used for proof of work - where the challenge is going to be - get N lines... lol Hatetriscoin
- mLuby 5y agoIDK why the link is to the Github. Here's the [actual site](https://qntm.org/hatetris https://qntm.org/hatetris) and here's the [browser demo](https://qntm.org/files/hatetris/hatetris.html https://qntm.org/files/hatetris/hatetris.html).
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- WarOnPrivacy 5y agoThat something I wonder frequently when I find myself at Github.
- dang 5y agoChanged from https://github.com/qntm/hatetris https://github.com/qntm/hatetris. Thanks!
- unholiness 5y agoAll right I'll bite. Here's my replay with 4, can anyone do better? ИටໃݎஐقไҮԩঘໃݹݫඖϾח௨ࡄໃτઊටณɕ௨ഖVݹୠΟไଌ௨ȷКڍமƣະߛ௨ڄलܤɶѺഉZ௨කܘŧۑഠܗђ௧૫ง๐௬ࡄଘݪjധȣӶஐටםܥಈడƇђحڌࠋ
- unholiness 5y agoWith some more fiddling I got 5: హقຽࡐԚقଖݹ३ΤໃςԎРಊݶɺටງђञසໃל௨ೱІJলظІŧԥගƖݹƔقWђવටܢݹԪmЄࡧԥฃໄڝরߩງוభ൜ϾঊஶϺळॾԫԉІݶݬΟไࢲذ൜షaஜشНܥಒකСݤЬඝܘƎࢶ૫Ɣڍகnബॠ
- fastball 5y agoHere's my 5 with a similar strat: ޛටժݹଚටഉݷԤѮໃܕИඦϾɕஸҸɱݷޛඝІݹਐඈ൞मࡂਯÐݶמҸȣݢ੪૪ΒݹƐദɊঅਵશϼɕॲશϾɕԊԚɊॶௐҸȣJਵϪκݓॳsʐɊసΟຯƻߙOƷߛeʛGđҨOƸΤಳඖಌݸƔࡄฎࡑज੬דݯਗ൜ಊɬ४ƧවɞಐΟVKŋ3 Could maybe combine the two to get 6.
- layer8 5y agoI managed to reach 11: సقແࡆ௨౾ܘݸథ৩ໄɕஐփЂঅࢳइະࠇஶقງыதقݍݹলজຽࠇ௧රІރ௨ගͲວ௨ඦϼɕறقؼݑђ੬ໃŦߜඦഫݹԥറІܯࡑق༢ڢ௨ڞܘࡇ௧ڠງڣݹ୮ܬŦஜυషKϢټຽࠇ௰ඪܘܭݳ൝ඤτரػଇœԤڏ૭ɔԥ౾ಋ൳ݢऋخӷࡑ୩πںڲת෧uਮڝƜݢशԹసດࡓౚઈڭਧօ5 But the current highscore seems to be 31: https://qntm.org/hatetris#sec0 https://qntm.org/hatetris#sec0
- swyx 5y agothis is remarkable. In my first playthrough I was not able to clear a single line.
- AlanSE 5y agoI read the topic and thought "oh, this sounds like fun, I want to play" Then I played it. Kudos to the creator. I really do hate it.
- j45 5y agoThis reminds me a bit of TetriNET. Also, I now miss TetriNET. Ooc is there a resource that catalogues the different interesting variants of Tetris?
- russellbeattie 5y agoMy son bought me an original Game Boy with Tetris for Christmas for its sentimental value. Turned out to be a real challenge. If you're used to the current versions, going back in time is crazy hard! No hold pieces, a single preview, the pieces lock-in as soon as they touch, and the randomness is truly random. I was astounded by how hard these small changes make the game. I had totally forgotten!
- JohnTHaller 5y agoI wonder if any inspiration came from "The Tetris God" by CollegeHumor 10 years ago: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Alw5hs0chj0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Alw5hs0chj0 "line piece, Line Piece, LIINE PIEECE!"
- quacked 5y agoI've always thought that sketch was the funniest one on CH.
- Nition 5y agoThe Minesweeper one was good too: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LHY8NKj3RKs https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LHY8NKj3RKs
- forgotpwd16 5y agoOff topic: Since when YouTube started requiring ID for age verification? And why will this video be age-restricted in first place?
- bennysomething 5y agoDoes anyone know if Gameboy Tetris had any code in it to attempt to give you bad pieces?
- NauticalStu 5y agoIt doesn't, although its randomizer does favor some pieces over others: https://harddrop.com/wiki/Tetris_(Game_Boy)#Randomizer https://harddrop.com/wiki/Tetris_(Game_Boy)#Randomizer
- chasing 5y agoSo 98% S and Z pieces and no squares or long 4x1s. Seems about right!
- taklamunda 5y agoIt looks like so much impressive. Good luck n continue..
- jordan314 5y agoTangentially, I recently played the tetris theme on a stepper motor. https://twitter.com/alana31415/status/1389886733769007108 https://twitter.com/alana31415/status/1389886733769007108
- anonu 5y agohttps://qntm.org/files/hatetris/hatetris.html https://qntm.org/files/hatetris/hatetris.html
- _0ffh 5y ago> "every coder has to build Tetris at least once in their life" I suspect this is true. Also a Lisp interpreter, but Forth only for some.
- tickthokk 5y agoSomeone got 31 lines on Youtube. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cuwI52xwyuU https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cuwI52xwyuU Replay: ௨ഖƌݯߜࠏІWƑsໃa௨೯ܘݷಳජଈیԪؼʥݺԥඞܘݲࠐڄໂঅமةໃݹ௧ړІٽ௨൞ໃZ௨ಘІܥࠐΣІZߜටȜখذජНݹߛeʛݹߤปເѧ௩ԚໂՉࢸටuа௨સȣݷłقෆঅਏeܘԔצقషݸɢڠຜঀಧҸມѧஐට༪൩ԊಅഫܡथsถԡԦԚໃɥஸقࡈɕɠɈไݸצقషݰਵϺФঅஓػݐɓԞуຯɕझࡈ๐ݞझࢶІݞमปദஈƉؿଭݪஸҩЂ൸ԛمϦGƁҨVھԥචЅշࡂ෮लݷƘණ໘ࠅƘಧНקࢻҨฆӘದԋϝପࠑ੧ͳݲடփරݞਵΚϼɢԒԺٳѦԤࠌξGಘسਯܥஶҋϮτथlϼʔ
- Wowfunhappy 5y agoHN cut this off so I couldn't copy and paste it without opening developer tools. I can't find a way to put the code in a HN comment without breaking it, but you can go here and copy and paste: https://itty.bitty.site/#Incredible_Hatetris_Replay/?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 https://itty.bitty.site/#Incredible_Hatetris_Replay/?XQAAAAJ... Also, it's amazing, definitely give it a watch!
- anonytrary 5y ago௨ഖƌݯߜࠏІWƑsໃa௨೯ܘݷಳජଈیԪؼʥݺԥඞܘݲࠐڄໂঅமةໃݹ௧ړІٽ௨൞ໃZ௨ಘІܥࠐΣІZߜටȜখذජНݹߛeʛݹߤปເѧ௩ԚໂՉࢸටuа௨સȣݷłقෆঅਏeܘԔצقషݸɢڠຜঀಧҸມѧஐට༪൩ԊಅഫܡथsถԡԦԚໃɥஸقࡈɕɠɈไݸצقషݰਵϺФঅஓػݐɓԞуຯɕझࡈ๐ݞझࢶІݞमปദஈƉؿଭݪஸҩЂ൸ԛمϦGƁҨVھԥචЅշࡂ෮लݷƘණ໘ࠅƘಧНקࢻҨฆӘದԋϝପࠑ੧ͳݲடփරݞਵΚϼɢԒԺٳѦԤࠌξGಘسਯܥஶҋϮτथlϼʔ This should work. Prefixed it with two spaces to trigger codeblock. If you double click to highlight and then copy, the app will automatically .trim() the input so the spaces should not matter.
- quickthrower2 5y agoNice to watch!
- bennysomething 5y agoI don't understand how it can possibly select the "worst piece". As far as I've always believed, Tetris is np complete. Now I understand that in very simple terms you could say for one move that a piece looks difficult, but in the long run it could turn to have been a a great piece.
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- ericmathison 5y agoI got 8: ݳටๅɕ௨ඥЅח௧ڏඍݹশقฅஈமΟໃঅஶמຽઋ௨౾ܘݶభටТಀ௨ปໄஈ௮੬ໄ๐மϺฦݷభචʑѯЭقଛڍ௧ڀໃऍ௨ڈແঅવටଣஈࢴටЫܭΖගƬݚѻසໄߢ௮s༠ɓౚ౾૮ࠇযضϿऍ௩Ϻ৴ԓਅƑฅݺƑѮවܜ౻3
- fighterpilot 5y agoCompetitive Hatetris would be fun
- taftster 5y agoI think what's interesting about this is the tendency for it to give you the same piece over and over again. That is, until you've tricked it enough that the same piece will clear a line, then it will give you the next piece over and over. As it relates to real Tetris, it's usually the case that the same piece given multiple times in a row does in fact cause the most problems (at least for me). What is the algorithm in normal Tetris for delivering pieces? Is it completely random, or is there a bit of "frustration" added to the piece distribution?
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- AdamN 5y agoThis is a good example of structuralism. The rules of the game are exactly the same but the rules for determining which piece is next change which strategy is successful.
- matthodan 5y agoI got five lines. సටໃپƓලໃKСඨWљ௨౾ಊށϣȺϭɛ௨ඨÐݸభටໞݺɷ౾ܘࠄԨقعཧࢶఋໃऔ௧ڐໂঔஜҔळ൩ԎΠܘݝ൚ƣໃय௨൝ٮਘ௩ʜໃɥமؾHݚj૯ໃɟ௨څƽथશѪฅݲ౮قȤ൨ԫءȣѠϡڠȤٽԤٴ༩ގԦ૬Øɉ
- littledot5566 5y agoUmm... all it did was give "S" pieces... I hate it, so mission accomplished... replay of last game: హࢯජݹ௨ชഫݪݻටի໒௩ѻІӻѻඡІܡமʟІלԥටМܭޠقฅɚࢴටໃɟ௨౾ȣυԥඤІݳ౻బໃݹഭࡄໃלஐ3
- dang 5y agoOk you guys, all the base-64 Tetris lines in here are breaking the layout of this page. Not because of base-64 or Tetris; it's the long unbroken lines. Usually I succumb to psychological pressure and edit them (by adding whitespace and—yes—telling the commenter we did so), but there are so many here that you've broken me. If anyone figures out how to fix HN's CSS so that it doesn't do this anymore, without breaking anything else, we will find some way to glorify you. One helpful user seemed to come close, but ended up having better things to do. Others have come close, but the changes broke something else. It may not be that hard, but my body rejects learning enough CSS to find out. (Also, yes, HN's HTML and CSS and general layout, and many other visible things about the site, are old-fashioned and weird and perhaps even trollish when you look at them a certain way and Mercury is in Leo; but anything one might say about that was probably already a cliché 10 years ago, so it would be good not to go there if you'd be so kind. It is what it is.)
- Detry322 5y agoSpeaking of silly Tetris games, I once made a version of Tetris where you can only move pieces by shooting them - https://jack.plus/guntris/ https://jack.plus/guntris/ The pieces aren’t on a grid either - makes playing it very frustrating.
- airstrike 5y agoWOW... that's frustrating! Thank you...
- wizzwizz4 5y agoSimilar: Not Tetris 2. https://stabyourself.net/nottetris2/ https://stabyourself.net/nottetris2/ This game is just Tetris with physics. It's very funny to give to people used to ordinary Tetris, though, because the controls are the same.
- einpoklum 5y agoI dunno... usual Tetris feels like that already :-(
- mitko 5y agoIs there a minimal guaranteed optimal play for the game of tetris (not just hatetris as linked here). Or phrased another way, if you play against the smartest, most devious AI, what's a score that you cannot get past. The high score of hatetris seems to be 31 lines, but it seems that it may be taking advantage of the algorithm being myopically giving you the worst piece 1 step ahead, and being deterministic. I wonder if the algorithm has some randomness (among multiple horrible pieces) and multi-step look ahead, how would that affect the high score. Has anyone done research on tetris's worst case bounds?
- xgulfie 5y agoTetris' worst case is all S-pieces or all Z-pieces, in which case you could never clear a single line.
- lalaithion 5y agoYou can trivially clear lines with infinite S-pieces or infinite Z-pieces.
- lalaithion 5y agoThe author of Hatetris did a quick look into this: https://qntm.org/tetris https://qntm.org/tetris
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- furyofantares 5y agoI can't beat 5 lines. Another goal: Find a state where it gives me a T piece. I've gotten all the other pieces replay of last game: ϥقາɜ௨ഗƊݸƔقࠄחƔطЛپƐටҾɕடٯໃKƐ൳WখƐࡆЂɚஜقໃঅமق༱ݚ௧ڠଭƏjට๐ߟԥකݕݶԪقוݶԪضΚࡨذකଛЩɢڟ۶Щౘڈȥݹ୷ҸຽथѺٯసƩ౫ೲบयஶѮໄэƔشΛюԪغҾɡد੯૨һɆٴПҼౚĐ
- BenjiWiebe 5y agoI played a bunch of games, but sorry, I didn't save any replays. I got 6 lines once and a T piece once (I think it was the same game.)
- knodi123 5y agoGood grief, I'm angry and stressed even though I was just interacting with a simple hostile algorithm. I felt personally attacked. This thing has fascinating psychological implications.
- fuzzythinker 5y agoWant to give a shout out a nice but relatively unknown tetris inspired game Tritris. It is open source [1] and you can see the author gave much thoughts into mirroring what makes tetris a great game in his intro video [2]. [1] https://github.com/Goel25/tritris https://github.com/Goel25/tritris [2] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HMkfj1OJ08Q https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HMkfj1OJ08Q
- sunsipples 5y ago30 S pieces and 1 | piece. maybe "obviously irritating tetris" would be more appropriate name?
- neosavvy 5y agoI got one line.
- woopwoop 5y agoEvil 2048, where the new blocks are placed adversarially instead of randomly: https://aj-r.github.io/Evil-2048/ https://aj-r.github.io/Evil-2048/
- totorovirus 5y agoThis game well deserves a spot in programming contest questions.
- quickthrower2 5y agoOk I suck ணටໃJଚඖଈݹਐఽໂГଏවૹၕศ૫ബǶणقܬݹસටງஈடڏ൧ݶಗටତݸ౻චʉݶಳගԮђமقଛٽஶӶϝເஜϺฆݷమsฉɛࢲغऐҏɶปଠݢഴٯลэؽڴล൨ಒ3
- Agentlien 5y agoI had fun with this, it's a great concept and well executed. Except it did not work well for me at all on mobile. The playing field and the buttons were really tiny (half the size of my finger) and missing them ever so slightly caused the board to zoom in and ignore my next press.
- underlines 5y agomy replay, i couldn't score a single time: ञƅҁݹடقࠃݶԤsฅڍ௧Ҕບݷవගༀݹ௩Ԟ໐ڻԒپܘݶƐජඤझ௨ಀඦݷహࡄลॾޛಀࠃݪڲض৩ஈরࡄชݺƘ൵Іމஐඤɱןݹ੬ݕݸ
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- forgotpwd16 5y agoGiven the tiles are algorithmically rather randomly (as in normal Tetris) chosen, is there an optimal play? A trendy computational approach will be to utilize a neural network ala AlphaZero.
- piegir 5y agoTetreasy – Tetris which always gives you the best piece Pull request: https://github.com/qntm/hatetris/pull/51#issue-632962518 https://github.com/qntm/hatetris/pull/51#issue-632962518
- GistNoesis 5y agoIf you need comfort to recover from Hatetris : I just made Lovetris : https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27083666 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27083666
- lab 5y agoԫටໃࢭ௧ࡇІݷƓ੬ໂԚ౧قตȻథեลࡁदඤϿঅௐڈUƻதڏІݫɼඖςĦవ౾ІۮడՋໂங௨ඉʃݪذ৬Сܡ౫ඥЕໃƔঘາߛಥෂеݹಏ૫ลஈসඝಷদԈҸງໂ௧ڈ໐ݟಳబଘݶԫքܔॿϡࠉඎঀԈҨȜֆƊ 1 line scored