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Millions of the Pentagon’s dormant IP addresses sprang to life on January 20
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- codeproject 5y agoThanks a lot, Appreciate. It is not I don't want to pay the washingtonpost.com. I just don't have time to read them.
- pelagic_sky 5y agoThank you! Had to use Safari on mobile as the captcha did not play well with Firefox.
- gitowiec 5y agoGoogle recaptcha? I get the same problem continuously on FX desktop and Android :(
- GekkePrutser 5y agoReally? I use Firefox literally all the time (with the minor exception of some internal work sites where they require Edge) and while all captchas annoy me to no end, recaptcha does work perfectly fine on Firefox even with uBlock origin and pihole running. Both on Desktop (I use FF on Windows, Mac, Linux and FreeBSD :) ) and on Android. What is the problem you're seeing? In fact I really rarely have any issues with FF whatsoever, and if I do it is always either uBlock Origin blocking a little bit too much, or a site that specifically rules out Firefox (like https://business.apple.com https://business.apple.com ), probably for no real reason other than not bothering to test their site with it.
- uptown 5y agoThey'll actually take your money whether you read it or not.
- joezydeco 5y agoIf you have Amazon prime, it's half price and free for the first month.
- rch 5y agoI've tried subscribing to a few news sources, including WaPo, but I can't handle the political agendas (right, left, or any of it). I've had better luck with subscription based aggregators, but nothing exciting enough to want to plug one in particular. Always looking for new options to try.
- dogman144 5y agoYeah all the news sources my parents sub’d to in the early 00s and I sort of figured I’d sub to as well once ready are aggravatingly narrative driven. I’m not sure if I never noticed that, or if it’s a new media approach, but I don’t need “baseball + narrative injection” articles in my life. I’m actually fairly bummed out about this, I go to Reuters now.
- anigbrowl 5y agoNews coverage has always been narrative driven to some extent, but previously that was more in selectivity of coverage. The quality of reporting has been in a long slow decline due to a mix of sagging finances and low-no quality control competition. The 'Action News' TV format significantly degraded things, and then blogs and specifically conservative-targeted media drove adoption of the narrative approach. This revealing interview gives an interesting perspective on the media business around the turn of the century. Note that this is a pdf archive copy saved to draw attention to a particular segment, and I'd urge you ignore that and rad the whole thing. I can't link to the original as it vanished some time ago, and this archive predates the establishment of the internet archive. Thus the presentation is biased (sorry) but it's the only complete copy of the interview I know of. https://zfacts.com/zfacts.com/metaPage/lib/Weekly_Standard_Matt-Labash_confesses.pdf https://zfacts.com/zfacts.com/metaPage/lib/Weekly_Standard_M...
- deanCommie 5y agoI think the key question isn't which political agenda they have, but whether they report facts or opinions. In that regard, WaPo is pretty good but you can still do better: https://www.adfontesmedia.com/static-mbc/ https://www.adfontesmedia.com/static-mbc/
- dkdk8283 5y agoIt’s the principle for me. I won’t support any publication with obvious bias.
- atat7024 5y agoDo you pay for the Financial Times/WSJ?
- mitchdoogle 5y agoAll news outlets are biased. Choosing what to report is part of bias. Nobody has the resources to report on every possible news story. There is even such a thing as "centrist bias". Better to choose a few reputable publications with different bias (according to FAIR or whoever) if you want a more balanced approach.
- crooked-v 5y agoEveryone has bias of one kind or another.
- serf 5y agospeaking for myself, state-level bias is harder to ignore than the kind of bias a reporter has when talking about politics that are against their own personal beliefs. personally I find outlets like NYT or NYPost to be too filled with the type of 'state-level bias' that I have a mental allergy to.
- GekkePrutser 5y agohttps://github.com/iamadamdev/bypass-paywalls-chrome https://github.com/iamadamdev/bypass-paywalls-chrome also really works well on the desktop. Unfortunately I haven't found a way to get it working on Firefox on mobile (the chrome repo also contains the FF one now ;) ). Thanks for the archive link. PS I understand that websites need to monetise.. But getting a subscription to read one linked article per month or so is just not going to happen. The sites I use a lot I do pay a membership for.
- bagacrap 5y agoperhaps you should consider getting a subscription one month per year and using the extension the other 11 if you think that's a more fair price to pay
- GekkePrutser 5y agoGood point. But I'm not sure if I'd do this with the Washington post. I wouldn't normally read this unless it's linked from somewhere else (I live in Europe). I actually had an online subscription to the Guardian for a while because they were really good on the privacy advocacy news. I wanted to support a paper with deep dives into privacy issues. However the last couple of years I got annoyed with too much Brexit stuff (not surprising for a UK based paper obviously but as I don't live in the UK I don't want to read about it every day). So I let it lapse. But there's another thing holding me back. If I subscribe I have to give all my personal details. I don't want to have too many sites where I have that around, data leaks are now happening too often. Even a couple days ago I got yet another notification from haveibeenpwned (this time it was the Spanish company phonehouse.es that was hit). Anyway, I just wanted to say that while I use paywall avoiding tools I'm not blind to the problem of monetisation and the cost of real journalism :)
- fwn 5y agoYou need Firefox 68 ( fennec 68.11.0 ) to use extensions from the open internet. Mozilla axed general extension support in later versions of their android browser. I just keep it around next to my regular browser for the occasional paywall.
- quakeguy 5y agoGreat point and totally off-topic, but I wonder if there is someone who reads the NY Times each and everyday in full.
- kdmytro 5y agoWhen you go to an all-you-can-eat buffet, do you eat all you can, or just until you are full?
- zentiggr 5y agoDoes your brain get full and have to empty itself before you can read more?
- colinmhayes 5y agoMy parents are cover to cover times readers every day since they retired. Obviously they don't read every article, but they look at every page.
- 1vuio0pswjnm7 5y agoFor text-only view, no Javascript or cookies: curl https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2021/04/24/pentagon-internet-address-mystery/?outputType=amp |grep -o "<p data".*</p>" > 1.htm firefox ./1.htm
- efreak 5y agoIf you're on Android using an app like Materialistic to browser HN, like I am, use a reader-mode-only app like Reedy to open your articles; since it only parses html and doesn't run scripts, it will work on every site that sends the whole article and not just a snippet. I'm partial to Reedy because it tends to fall "safe" and include more content rather than less, but other similar apps should work just as well (SmartNews has a similar function, as do Article Reader Offline, wallabag, and Webreader; I find Reedy has the best UI/feature set for my use).
- 1vuio0pswjnm7 5y agoTBH, I never use a "smartphone" for web browsing. Screen is too small, no tactile keyboard, etc. Also, I generally do not install mobile apps. Only a few from F-Droid on Android, one or two on iOS.
- saurik 5y agoOr just not stop after pressing reload, to prevent their paywall from loading.
- williesleg 5y agoAah, the wapo, that's Bezos, isn't it?
- dr_dshiv 5y ago"large amounts of data could provide several benefits for those in a position to collect and analyze it for threat intelligence and other purposes"
- smoldesu 5y agoAnother great example of computer literacy in the world of journalism.
- LogicX 5y agoRelated: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26924988 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26924988
- echelon 5y agoI want to reply to the following dead comment [1] > Aah, the wapo, that's Bezos, isn't it? It actually doesn't seem that unreasonable to me that a company as large as Amazon sees vast, unused resources held by the government. They publish an article as a sort of "wink wink, nudge nudge" to see if they can get it put up for auction. In fact, I'd be shocked if someone at Amazon or another company hasn't tried to ask the Pentagon about this. > Russell Goemaere, a spokesman for the Defense Department, confirmed in a statement to The Washington Post that the Pentagon still owns all the IP address space and hadn’t sold any of it to a private party. I bet they'd find a buyer if they wanted to sell. edit: Downvotes? Really? I'm just trying to start a conversation on something I find interesting. [1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26925616 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26925616
- pelagic_sky 5y agoI don’t know why you’re being down voted. It’s an interesting idea.
- hobs 5y agoI didnt downvote, but random speculation with no evidence doesn't get upvotes on hacker news; a discussion of things you find interesting that others find baseless with get you downvotes immediately.
- blux 5y agoWell, the article sort of requires discussion on what might be happening here, not?
- cmeacham98 5y ago"edit: Downvotes? Really?" is a surefire method of attracting downvotes.
- echelon 5y agoI got -4 in downvotes. (-2 before my edit.) I don't know what's going on. I understand when I call out Apple or Google for bad behavior that I can attract downvotes. Sometimes my posts are snarky, and I understand in that case too. But I can point to instances where posts I made days ago were all downvoted in unison. Or completely informational threads where every single one of my comments gets a downvote or two. Just a few days ago I got downvoted the second after I posted a comment. I spotted a typo immediately after submitting, clicked edit, and found myself downvoted before anyone could have possibly even read my comment (it was long). Maybe it was a mis-click -- who knows? But it was great feedback after having just submitted. And in concert with all the other recent downvotes, it's frustrating... I've been sitting at the same "karma" value for months, and I don't think I'm being a bad member of the community. It's more than likely noise, but it's got me rattled. It's not actionable feedback. With the pandemic and lack of social contact with other engineers, and this sort of judgement, I don't like it. I honestly don't think I'm being a nuisance. (And here this comment is with downvotes and no comments. Sigh.)
- pgn674 5y ago"several Chinese companies use network numbering systems that resemble the U.S. military’s IP addresses in their internal systems" I don't think I've heard of this before. What does it mean? Does China operate a disconnected BGP network? Or do they have some modified protocol, or what?
- woah 5y agoThese IP addresses were unused for a very long time, so using them on internal networks worked fine. Once the Floridian company in the article started announcing them, gateway routers on the Chinese internal networks may have started sending their traffic to Florida.
- pgn674 5y agoOhh, I think I see. So instead of (or in addition to) creating internal subnets inside 10.0.0.0/8, 172.16.0.0/12, and 192.168.0.0/16, they set up subsets inside DoD's 11.0.0.0/8 etc., and it worked out because there were no external BGP announcements for those ranges. But now that there are, if they did not explicitly configure their border gateways to route those ranges inside their networks, the traffic may now leak out to DoD's pilot effort.
- jasonhansel 5y agoMaybe DoD is trying to catch security flaws caused by traffic intended for their own internal networks accidentally reaching the public internet? Advertising those IPs publicly and logging all traffic could be a good way of detecting such bugs in DoD systems.
- dannyw 5y agoIt also explains the lack of public commentary.
- capableweb 5y ago
- tyingq 5y agoStill seems a bit odd to me. It doesn't explain why "GLOBAL RESOURCE SYSTEMS, LLC" is involved. Poking around, the individuals associated with that aren't government employees. The company was formed 9/8/2020 in Delaware.
- Fnoord 5y agoMeans nothing. Companies can be a front for a government.
- tyingq 5y agoWell, yes, but I'm interested in "for what purpose, in this specific case".
- dathinab 5y agoThe simplest would be to make sure the addresses are not announced by the DoD, which depending on the thinks they want to test could matter, or could be irrelevant.
- drawkbox 5y agoIf other scammers are using spoofing the ranges then another company does it, that doesn't raise alarm in the other entities abusing the same trick. If you announce it as DoD then it may scare off the others. In any good investigation, you want to shroud the data/intel collection. Using a front company, or series of levels of fronts, is the way you have to go about it. In short, a honeypot.
- cronix 5y agoIf I were to guess, because private companies aren't subject to FOIA requests. It's a little trick the gov't has been doing for some time now to avoid legitimate, legal scrutiny by the public.
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- djoldman 5y agohttps://outline.com/3HuXPj https://outline.com/3HuXPj
- gumby 5y agoThis is a complete side point, but what does this sentence mean? > Created in 2015, the DDS operates a Silicon Valley-like office within the Pentagon.
- dogman144 5y agoDDS hires professional engineers at a special paygrade pegged to their civilian pay stubs for a 2 year tour of duty fixing pressing issues in DoD tech via pretty broad authority to sidestep A) the usual senior military slow-roll* in the way of these fixes B) the sh**y govt contractors who made the tech and usually get paid to fix their own bad tech. DDS Hires a lot of motivated engineers who would be in civil service but for the $180k -> $90k paycuts and fear of bureaucratic hell. It is run by one of the ~founders of opentable who, post opentable riches, was flying on 9/11/01, decided to join the Chicago PD as a result, did west Chicago homicide until the PD discovered his past, he then stood up Chicago’s data-based policing technical approaches, and eventually the Obama admin heads about him asked him to take over DDS (iirc, +/- details there). Cool stuff and I’d work for them in a second, probably need another few years in private sector though.
- kingkilr 5y agoI don't know Brett super well so I can't speak to the rest of his background, but it's not correct that the Obama admin asked him to take over DDS. DDS's founding head was Chris Lynch, who served in that role until the middle of the Trump administration, when he left government service and that's when Brett got the job.
- dogman144 5y agoThere ya go. +/- details. I saw him present on DDS and his backstory at BSidesLV a few years ago and did a bit of non-profit govt<>tech chatter with the team there. Correct, it was in the middle of the Trump Admin.
- gumby 5y agoThis is quite interesting — glad I asked!
- coderholic 5y agoSome details about the ASN announcing the DoD prefixes: https://ipinfo.io/AS8003 https://ipinfo.io/AS8003 It looks like they're not just announcing 11.0.0.0/8 but also a bunch of more specific routes, including 11.0.0.0/13 and 11.0.0.0/24 It looks like currently their only peer is Hurricane Electric: https://ipinfo.io/AS6939 https://ipinfo.io/AS6939
- ThothIV 5y agoAlso adding 255.0/8 and 255/4 which is essentially just... IPV6. So we're finally going ipv6, I guess!
- icedchai 5y agoI think you mean 240/4, which is the former "class E" space.
- yftsui 5y agoPrevious story in 2015: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=10006534 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=10006534 . This article is exaggerating by saying it happened overnight, which started actually 5 years ago.
- frombody 5y agoGlobal Resource Systems LLC was only created in September of last year. It is very much worth asking who this legal entity is and why a private company is better suited to these efforts than the government.
- yftsui 5y agoI read the article but I believe the key point is since when 11.x.x.x stopped being dormant addresses, instead of these IPs just transferred ownership but not “dormant”. As an interesting fact, when searching “aliyun 11.0.0.0” which is the mentioned Chinese cloud provider I believe, they apparently has been using that as internal IPs since 2015 as well
- jessriedel 5y agoIn practice the US government is constrained from paying market rates for tech talent. It can either hire companies to complete the entire project, or it can hire a consulting service (which skims off a massive overhead) to provide technical talent inside a government agency.
- nexuist 5y agoI would argue that this is obviously a national security operation and the shell company is operated by the FBI or the NSA, not necessarily some random contracting firm.
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- saurik 5y agoThe mailing list archive for this gig reorganized for some reason, so I imagine the URL for it should now be https://mailman.nanog.org/pipermail/nanog/2015-August/078058.html https://mailman.nanog.org/pipermail/nanog/2015-August/078058...
- tiernano 5y agowhen digging though some of the IPs, i came across 22.0.0.0/8, which if you look at the DNS tab of bgp.he.net (https://bgp.he.net/net/22.0.0.0/8#_dns https://bgp.he.net/net/22.0.0.0/8#_dns) shows a LOT of people are "using" those IPs... which means a LOT of people wont be happy that their sites, email, dns, etc, are now essentially being blackholed... for me (I run AS204994), the traffic hits Frankfurt (i peer with HE there) goes over their network though Paris, then to Ashburn and then is blackholed... gone after that... wondering how much traffic is being seen by he.net with this...
- icedchai 5y agoIf they're using them for internal networks, they'll (probably) work just like they did before. It's likely many folks are using these as like private RFC-1918 addresses.
- tiernano 5y agoIf they are private, which they could be, I wonder why they are showing up in public on there... Also, ripe.net has ripe stats... Checked a few of the ranges and seen people other than the dod and these lads announcing the range...
- icedchai 5y agoAnyone can put an address in their DNS records, whether it's "theirs" or not. I have several records with 192.168.0.0/16 IPs. The DNS can be seen publicly but obviously they don't route. It's the same thing. Other folks are definitely using those DoD addresses. For example, I see a bunch being announced by AS23352 / Server Central: https://bgp.he.net/AS23352#_prefixes https://bgp.he.net/AS23352#_prefixes
- dang 5y agoRelated: https://www.kentik.com/blog/the-mystery-of-as8003/ https://www.kentik.com/blog/the-mystery-of-as8003/ (via https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26924988 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26924988, but no comments there to speak of)
- client4 5y agoT-mobile does the same thing.
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- drawkbox 5y ago> Defense Digital Service (DDS) authorized a pilot effort advertising DoD Internet Protocol (IP) space using Border Gateway Protocol (BGP). This pilot will assess, evaluate and prevent unauthorized use of DoD IP address space. Additionally, this pilot may identify potential vulnerabilities. This is one of DoD’s many efforts focused on continually improving our cyber posture and defense in response to advanced persistent threats. We are partnering throughout DoD to ensure potential vulnerabilities are mitigated. Interesting, seems an effort to find out who was abusing ranges that were exclusively allowed or disallowed based on the ranges. Malware that tries to look like something else that uses a state level IP range to evade blocking, or check for blocks.[1] >I interpret this to mean that the objectives of this effort are twofold. First, to announce this address space to scare off any would-be squatters, and secondly, to collect a massive amount of background internet traffic for threat intelligence. >On the first point, there is a vast world of fraudulent BGP routing out there. As I’ve documented over the years, various types of bad actors use unrouted address space to bypass blocklists in order to send spam and other types of malicious traffic. Cloudflare example shows how much traffic some of these ranges that are included/excluded have when turned on. >On the second, there is a lot of background noise that can be scooped up when announcing large ranges of IPv4 address space. A recent example is Cloudflare’s announcement of 1.1.1.0/24 and 1.0.0.0/24 in 2018. >For decades, internet routing operated with a widespread assumption that ASes didn’t route these prefixes on the internet (perhaps because they were canonical examples from networking textbooks). According to their blog post soon after the launch, Cloudflare received “~10Gbps of unsolicited background traffic” on their interfaces. >And that was just for 512 IPv4 addresses! Of course, those addresses were very special, but it stands to reason that 175 million IPv4 addresses will attract orders of magnitude more traffic. More misconfigured devices and networks that mistakenly assumed that all of this DoD address space would never see the light of day. Looks like a new cybersecurity policy/process started on inauguration day. Probably a defensive or offensive measure to combat the supply chain attacks that may well have used those ranges in evading blocking. Why use a front company? As a honeypot. If other scammers are using spoofing the ranges then another company does it, that doesn't raise alarm in the other entities abusing the same trick. If you announce it as DoD then it may scare off the others. In any good investigation, you want to shroud the data/intel collection. Using a front company, or series of levels of fronts, is the way you have to go about it. [1] https://www.kentik.com/blog/the-mystery-of-as8003/ https://www.kentik.com/blog/the-mystery-of-as8003/
- throwaway2474 5y agoCan someone explain how we know these “announcements” are real? What’s to stop me setting up a company and announcing random dormant address ranges that I don’t own?
- judge2020 5y agorpki[0], but that doesn't mean fake bgp announcements, considered bgp hijacking[1], don't happen[2]. Once every t1 drops invalid prefixes, then rpki will effectively mean no T1 can turn off the internet for other ASNs, but everyone signing their prefixes is required to mean nobody can fake announce an IP. It looks like the DOD's routes are indeed signed[3]. 0: https://isbgpsafeyet.com/ https://isbgpsafeyet.com/ 1: https://www.thousandeyes.com/learning/glossary/bgp-route-hijacking https://www.thousandeyes.com/learning/glossary/bgp-route-hij... 2: https://hn.algolia.com/?q=bgp https://hn.algolia.com/?q=bgp 3: https://bgp.he.net/AS8003#_prefixes https://bgp.he.net/AS8003#_prefixes
- erinnh 5y agoThe HE link doesnt mean they are signed. It just means the IRR records are correct. You would see a green key on the prefixes if they were signed (and correct) The prefixes are in the https://www.radb.net https://www.radb.net Somebody (as everybody can do this with radb) said to RADB that 8003 is the correct origin for these prefixes. Considering the DoD hasnt rained hell on the RADB, Id guess theyre good as well, but its not RPKI signed.
- judge2020 5y agoAh, my bad. I looked around and now know what RPKI signed actually looks like on HE. https://bgp.he.net/ip/1.1.1.1 https://bgp.he.net/ip/1.1.1.1
- erinnh 5y agoI always recommend the nlnog IRRexplorer for this stuff. Much better to see what the situation is for IRR/RPKI for a prefix/AS: Cloudflare: http://irrexplorer.nlnog.net/search/1.1.1.0/24 http://irrexplorer.nlnog.net/search/1.1.1.0/24 One of the prefixes this thread is about: http://irrexplorer.nlnog.net/search/7.0.0.0/24 http://irrexplorer.nlnog.net/search/7.0.0.0/24
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- cjhanks 5y agoHopefully not too off topic. How do people monitor these BGP announcements? Is it possible for laymen to monitor such route rules?
- ta988 5y agoHave a look at that: https://github.com/nttgin/BGPalerter https://github.com/nttgin/BGPalerter
- WarOnPrivacy 5y agoTampaBay times has a more detailed article w/ some details from netsec researchers. They're indicating a well-known spammer is behind the company. https://www.tampabay.com/news/military/2021/04/24/pentagon-mystery-with-a-florida-connection-is-solved-sort-of/ https://www.tampabay.com/news/military/2021/04/24/pentagon-m... This Sunbiz record has company principals and filings from 2007-2013 - inc names (not in TBT article) and another dropbox address, this one in Chicago http://search.sunbiz.org/Inquiry/corporationsearch/SearchResultDetail?inquirytype=EntityName&directionType=PreviousList&searchNameOrder=GLOBALRESOURCESYSTEMS%20M060000016990&aggregateId=forl-m06000001699-a8147ffb-e7b4-41e1-a981-2bd8900de732&searchTerm=GLOBAL%20RIFLEX%20SOLUTIONS%20CORP&listNameOrder=GLOBALRESOURCESUSA%20V130771 http://search.sunbiz.org/Inquiry/corporationsearch/SearchRes... That Chicago dropbox address is currently shared by: This intellectual property law firm https://www.greengriffith.com/contact/ https://www.greengriffith.com/contact/ This venture capital firm http://www.lakecapital.com/contact_location.asp http://www.lakecapital.com/contact_location.asp This management company adds another name and address and is tied to the FL addresses https://floridadb.com/company/M06000002257/filinet-llc https://floridadb.com/company/M06000002257/filinet-llc . OpenCorpWiki has an additional dropbox addy down the street https://opencorporates.com/companies/us_fl/M20000009226 https://opencorporates.com/companies/us_fl/M20000009226 note: The BBB listing confirms reconciles FL address w/ the domain https://opencorporates.com/companies/us_fl/M20000009226 https://opencorporates.com/companies/us_fl/M20000009226 This mailing list has been following the same trail I have https://www.mail-archive.com/nanog@nanog.org/msg112229.html https://www.mail-archive.com/nanog@nanog.org/msg112229.html
- paledot 5y agoMy reading of the Tampa Bay Times article is that the company name was copied from that of a supposedly defunct front for a spammer. The individual supposedly behind it has done DoD contracts before and has supposedly retired. Both of these leads have a lot of "supposedly"s attached, but the one to the spam front is a lot more tenuous.
- WarOnPrivacy 5y agoThis is helpful. Thank you.
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- j3th9n 5y agoMy theory: apparently a lot of companies use the IP-addresses internally. And apparently the intention was to sell the IP-addresses already for a long time. But buyers would be faced with a lot of traffic coming from all those companies using the ranges internally, instant DDoS. Maybe this is an attempt to "clean" the IP-addresses before selling them. It will probably only take time before most companies using the ranges internally and having problems now (or happily continuing business now with the help of Pentagon servers), to reconfigure their networks to fix it. In the meantime the Pentagon can probably collect some interesting traffic, speeding up the whole process of reconfiguration by companies who use the ranges, to prevent their secrets from falling into exactly the right hands.
- peter_retief 5y agoWhen is everyone going to start using IPv6? If ever? I have tried but find that so many ISP's actually block IPv6 traffic.
- jeffrallen 5y agoTwo words: network telescope. See CAIDA's papers on their network telescope.
- cbar_tx 5y agoare we really pretending this isn't just the mass surveillance machine roaring back to life?
- SixDouble5321 5y agoAre we really pretending that it ever stopped?