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Ubuntu 21.04
- junippor 6y agohttps://www.debian.org/ https://www.debian.org/
- Spivak 6y agohttps://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/hirsute-hippo-release-notes/19221 https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/hirsute-hippo-release-notes/1... Release notes might be more useful for this crowd.
- gmaster1440 6y agoAzure Active Directory support is pretty significant, means any company that uses Microsoft MDM can now support engineers who prefer linux machines.
- ocdtrekkie 6y agoNote this support appears to specifically describe an on-premise Active Directory server, with group policy. Azure AD tends not to support GPOs, though you can get basically Azure-hosted AD servers that do.
- adolfojp 6y agoI don't think it supports AAD, just AD. You got me way too exited for a minute.
- easton 6y agoIt's kind of odd that they are advertising this now just as Microsoft is trying to get everyone to ditch on-prem AD. Is it just them saying "we ship SSSD in the default install now, so you can buy support from us!", or what? Some way of signing into Ubuntu with a custom SAML provider would be very cool. Windows supports it via their "credential provider"[0] framework and Google uses that to provide sign-in for Windows with your GSuite credentials. [0]: https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/win32/secauthn/credential-providers-in-windows https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/win32/secauthn/cred...
- e12e 6y agoI certainly hope ms will drop the need for ad (in favour of azure ad) - but it's still needed for eg azure virtual desktop (you need a vm running ad - or "azure ad ds"[1] in azure parlance). A bit frustrating, as you can otherwise join a windows 10 desktop (or vm) to just azure ad for sso etc. [1] https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/azure/active-directory-domain-services/overview https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/azure/active-directory-doma...
- easton 6y agoThat's still the most bizarre product decision Microsoft has made (to me) in the past 5 years. They are trying to get everyone to Azure and Azure AD, then they launch a product that is basically Citrix but 50% of the cost, with the catch that you need to still have on-prem AD to use it. What?
- merb 6y ago> 50% of the cost well that depends, the higher subscriptions include it for free.
- Koffiepoeder 6y agoTo be honest I'm not a fan of this. Linux was one of the few ways to stay free of the behemoth of corporate, invasive crapware that is forced upon employees. By evolving towards a full enterprise managed OS (with stuff like AD) this freedom will more and more be corrupted.
- fiberoptick 6y agoWell, at companies that actually care about 100% rollout of "corporate, invasive crapware" on computers that _they own_ and that are used to process _company data_ and access _company resources_, the alternative is usually just to ban Linux workstations altogether. I see this as a strict improvement for adoption of Linux workstations in the corporate world
- lordlimecat 6y agoI'm not aware of ubuntu now supporting "rollout of corporate crapware" via this AD support. MSIs still dont work on Ubuntu. GPOs are still very limited-- mostly just HBAC type stuff. The stuff that works is the important stuff, but if people want to roll out software to Linux they aren't doing it with AD. They're doing it with a CM tool like puppet or ansible.
- tarsinge 6y agoThis or everything in web apps in a browser, pick your poison.
- Spivak 6y agoAlso AD support is small potatoes compared to products like CarbonBlack which are already deployed on Linux. Having "Puppet but controlled by GPO" isn't really new.
- TruthWillHurt 6y agoLinux had AD integrations 15 years ago. You just had to configure Kerberos yourself (oh, how often have I googled "Linux AD interoperability"...)
- ocdtrekkie 6y agoHoly crud, I can just straight up join this to my domain? This is world-changing. There is a GPO template. I think I'm in love.
- Spivak 6y agoYou always could! sssd’s ad integration has been really solid for years and if you have a huge number of machines you can stand up FreeIPA establish a trust between them. The thing that’s changing with this release is the ability to support some GPOs with adsys. sssd has/had some basic gpo support as it relates to auth but not really for system config.
- ocdtrekkie 6y agoFWIW, GPO templates are what I consider the minimum to call something manageable, which is most of why I want things on Active Directory. This definitely moves this into "I might introduce this to our environment" level.
- croutonwagon 6y agoI would say the same but for authentication. We have linux servers on our domain, specifically becaeuse there are certain things they do better than windows, and im a tool for a trade kinda guy. But authentication and management of creds is a hard requirement. The rest i can work with. We setup Ansible to handle much of the day to day config things. GPO"s might be nice. At one and for years i was using PBIS, and whatever it was called before it was bought out, forked and named PBIS - https://github.com/BeyondTrust/pbis-open https://github.com/BeyondTrust/pbis-open I liked it because it kept GID/UID's consistent across the domain. But it was flaky for samba shares specifically ad group enumeration. There are paid add-ons that leverage GPO but never went that route. More recently we are just leveraging SSSD/Chrony/Smb/Nmb to do the same, there are a few tweaks, but its solid. Its actually more stable now. Some GPO's would be nice I supposed.
- lordlimecat 6y agoThe problem is that GPOs are really a terrible way to do configuration, and people (like myself) who grew up on them simply were Stockholm'd into accepting them. The moment you learn about things like Ansible, and then ask "wait, what if I want to programatically make GPOs"-- and try to do so-- you realize just how horrendously bad they are. Their permissions inheritance is terrible, so trying to do least-privelege / granular rights for admins is awful. Their supercedence structure is confusing, overly complex, and naturally inclines people towards abusing "enforce" and "block" in the worst possible ways. Un-screwing GPO inheritance messes is essentially impossible, so in production the answer is generally "create a new GPO" rather than "clean up the old mess". And the settings structure itself is a terrible organizational mess; things "sort of" have a logical structure, except for the thousand odd exceptions. You can't set preferences on items that may not exist (such as disabling insecure services from old OSes) without generating a bunch of logged errors. You can't really target your GPO without some rather expensive client-side queries. Logging what is actually happening (e.g. why did that printer mapping fail) is awful, which I have generally seen solved by writing one's own drive and printer mapping scripts. The whole thing is a relic of the 90s that never quite got finished, polished, or maintained and mostly exists because it was "good enough" and there were no real alternatives. There still aren't, really, unless you want a third-party solution which is inevitably almost as big of a maintenance burden as GPO-- and GPO being free and mostly reliable makes it easy to just accept its awfulness.
- vikbytes 6y agoLooks like their download page has not yet been updated to offer 21.04? https://ubuntu.com/download/desktop https://ubuntu.com/download/desktop
- kentiko 6y agoYou can find 21.04 here: https://www-ftp.lip6.fr/pub/linux/distributions/Ubuntu/releases/21.04/ https://www-ftp.lip6.fr/pub/linux/distributions/Ubuntu/relea...
- scaladev 6y agoThese are all beta images.
- walrus01 6y agoIf you install the beta from a week or two ago and then do a 'apt update' followed by 'apt dist-upgrade', it'll download maybe a few hundred MB of stuff, need to reboot once, and will be the same as the release.
- ASalazarMX 6y agoOr you could wait a couple of hours for Ubuntu to update their website. What's the rush?
- vdfs 6y agoOr just get the latest from https://releases.ubuntu.com/21.04/ https://releases.ubuntu.com/21.04/
- mobilio 6y agoHere is it: https://releases.ubuntu.com/21.04/ https://releases.ubuntu.com/21.04/
- jvdvegt 6y agoIt's not LTS, so you need to scroll down a bit.
- b1gtuna 6y agoReleased, but can't find the download link..
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- bithavoc 6y agoyeah, not even on the alternative downloads page. It reminds me of the story of how the Mono team had an issue in the downloads page that leads to some users download a 2yr old release of the Mono Framework.[0] I found the downloads page[1] but it still says Beta, unsure what's going on. [0]https://tirania.org/blog/archive/2008/Jan-24-1.html https://tirania.org/blog/archive/2008/Jan-24-1.html [1]https://releases.ubuntu.com/21.04/ https://releases.ubuntu.com/21.04/
- suby 6y agoIt's interesting to see Wayland enabled by default. I'm curious to know what state Wayland is in nowadays, especially regarding how well it works with Nvidia cards. The last time I tried it out was around 2017ish when Fedora enabled it by default. It was 100% not ready then as it wouldn't even boot into the desktop with my nvidia card. Is it actually ready now? Does it work with nvidia cards? Does GPU acceleration work with nvidia cards? Are apps launching via xwayland gpu accelerated / working as expected? It sounds like OBS and some screenshot programs work now which is nice.
- momothereal 6y agoI've learned not to hold my breath on Ubuntu + Nvidia cards ever working out of the box. I've been using Pop_OS as a daily driver (distro over Ubuntu) and it works 95% of the time.
- pacoverdi 6y agoThanks for the tip. Just tried it. Looks nice but suffers from the same problem as Ubuntu 21.04: laggy with fractional scaling. But fractional scaling with Nvidia did not work at all before 21.04 so I guess there is progress.
- julianlam 6y agoWhat level of scaling are you using? I tried turning on "large text" in Accessibility settings, which functions like 1.25
- z5h 6y agoI’ve been away from Linux for a while. So Microsoft is involved here, and Google’s Dart/Flutter is also a key foundational component? Am I understanding that right?
- ocdtrekkie 6y agoWith any open project, you can lean in favor of only working with other free things, or focusing on usable scenarios even with non-free software. My impression has always been that Ubuntu leans to the latter, trying to provide a working solution out of the box. This is why you can get PCs from enterprise PC vendors like Dell and HP shipped with Ubuntu.
- hn8788 6y agoYeah, I think it's the right call as well for any distro that wants adoption. I'd love to use Debian, but even the "non-free" installer doesn't include drivers for my intel wifi card, and I don't think it's worth my time to try and do it all by hand. I still donate money to Debian though, because I know it's indirectly supporting Ubuntu.
- ocdtrekkie 6y agoYeah, I work on a tool for Sandstorm.io called vagrant-spk, which uses Debian inside VMs, and that is pretty pleasant. But every time I've flirted with using a Debian distro for my dev machine under it, I've never gotten to the "installed working machine" stage. For what it's worth, my dev machines are usually random older consumer desktop PCs, solely intended to run Windows, but Ubuntu works fine out of the box on all of them.
- devit 6y agoHave they sold the company to Microsoft? "Microsoft SQL Server on Ubuntu delivers an optimised, cost-effective database platform" Of course not, it's not free so it's not cost effective compared to the best database, which is PostgreSQL. Integration with Active Directory group policy seems also a really bad idea since it allows insecure proprietary software to control your Linux machines.
- ocdtrekkie 6y agoAny good central policy management is better than none. If you have a Windows-based network, Linux machines represent a serious security risk, because they're less managed. The more managed Ubuntu can be in a Windows environment, the more feasible it is to start switching workloads to run on Linux without compromising security. And plenty of business apps straight up require Microsoft SQL Server. You should be thrilled those now no longer need a Windows license, just the SQL Server license.
- kstenerud 6y agoSQL Server and Active Directory are important for enterprise customers, and their true cost comes from the support contracts, not the purchase price (like all software at the enterprise level, FOSS or not). This is a smart move by Canonical to court enterprise customers, especially with the Red Hat change of ownership chaos and churn.
- CraftThatBlock 6y agoMaybe cost-effective compared to running SQL Server on Windows?
- navaati 6y agoAnd also compared to, for example, Oracle on RedHat.
- CrazyPyroLinux 6y agoAnd a "sanity-effective" alternative to Windows - I've found that running their officially-supported container has been a much better experience.
- cyberlab 6y ago> Firefox, OBS Studio and many applications built with Electron and Flutter take advantage of Wayland automatically, for smoother graphics and better fractional scaling. I think it's great that Firefox is bundled with Ubuntu, but I have to manually update Firefox each time a new release comes out because the version that's installed is a canonical-controlled version that stays 'stuck' on a old version and doesn't have an auto-update mechanism. Other than that, I love the OS. I use it as my daily driver since it has a good community around it, and if you're having trouble, there is a good community-powered Q&A site for it.
- madars 6y agoRunning nightly comes with tradeoffs, but I've had great experiences with firefox-trunk from https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-mozilla-daily/+archive/ubuntu/ppa https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-mozilla-daily/+archive/ubuntu/... which is maintained by Ubuntu developers.
- rhblake 6y agoI'm running Ubuntu 20.04 LTS and Firefox (from the default Ubuntu repo) is updated frequently. It might lag behind the official release by a few days, but I can live with that. Currently at 87 [0], so I expect 88 (which Mozilla released a few days ago) any day now. [0] https://packages.ubuntu.com/focal/firefox https://packages.ubuntu.com/focal/firefox
- muterad_murilax 6y ago> I have to manually update Firefox each time a new release comes out because the version that's installed is a canonical-controlled version that stays 'stuck' on a old version and doesn't have an auto-update mechanism. Doesn't Snap solve this?
- moistbar 6y agoYes, but only if you submit your code to Snapcraft. There's no way to host your own repository.
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- kbrwn 6y agoThank you to Canonical for keeping Ubuntu a free and open source operating system with long term support! With the death of CentOS (replaced by an unstable upstream of RHEL) it means a lot to the Linux community.
- nickthemagicman 6y agoAmen! Ubuntu is amazing! And keeps getting better every release! Big props to the Ubuntu team! My gratitude is endless for not having to use either Windows or Mac and still enjoy the desktop computer experience!
- curt15 6y agoWhy was the above comment downvoted?
- hwbehrens 6y agoMy guess is that it was downvoted because it violates two of the comment guidelines: > Comments should get more thoughtful and substantive, not less, as a topic gets more divisive. The parent comment is neither thoughtful nor substantive, merely agreeing with the grandparent -- a verbose equivalent of a "This!" comment. A better comment might include the commenter's reasoning, their experiences with other platforms and their pros and cons, or how they have used Ubuntu personally or professionally, for example. > Eschew flamebait. Avoid unrelated controversies and generic tangents. The parent's implicit dismissal of Windows or Mac desktop platforms as un-enjoyable could be interpreted as flamebait, since choice of operating system can be a common point of contention. Hopefully this explanation helps. Since the comment was low-quality but not flagrantly bad, I assume it will pick up one or two downvotes but not a flag, and will sink naturally down the discussion as higher-quality posts supersede it.
- nickthemagicman 6y agoBeing grateful theres additional options for a well supported desktop experience besides the two dominant parties is flame bait? Subjective interpretation is now a basis for downvoting and being labelled flamebait. Meanwhile the most upvoted comment is about the graphic looking like hairy testicles(which it does).
- pawelduda 6y agoI tried Wayland on 20.10 a few month ago and concluded it wasn't ready for daily use. The worst thing is that it would RANDOMLY cause Gnome to restart while closing all my applications. Also the cursor was jumpy and laggy sometimes (especially when opening context menus). Is anyone aware if these issues still happen?
- simion314 6y ago>The worst thing is that it would RANDOMLY cause Gnome to restart while closing all my applications. Question: Is this a GNOME architecture issue? I hope KDE could avoid this issues, atm on Xorg I can restart the window manager and the desktop shell without losing any data.
- intergalplan 6y agoI don't have a firm answer, but considering how much Wayland pushes off on the compositor (seemingly everything, nothing is ever Wayland's fault or responsibility) I'd expect that the compositor (every desktop environment or WM also needs to be a compositor, now) crashing is identical to all of Xorg crashing, not just the DE or WM under Xorg crashing.
- dyingkneepad 6y agoYou are right. The compositor crashing is equivalent to X crashing: everything goes boom. In the X world, if gnome-session dies another one gets automatically started and you may not even realize what happened.
- simion314 6y agoSo KDE will have same issues ? I am wondering if they can architect it somehow where you put minimal code in the compositor and move the window management, and the complex effects (like zoom and animation) into a different process. If Linux would have decided to use Mir would have at least shared same "server" code and probably also get around this issues but is hard to promote quality when Gnome and RedHat has a different idea.
- sdwolfz 6y agoThere was an article here a few months ago about TPM backed full disk encryption in Ubuntu 21.04: https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Ubuntu-21.04-Encrypt-No-LVM https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Ubuntu-2... Anybody know what happened to that idea? It's been a long time desire of mine to have a secure Linux laptop without needing to enter my password twice during startup and I was hoping to get it with this release, but when I tried the beta the installer did not allow it. Easy LDAP/AD support and TPM encryption were the two showstoppers whenever I asked IT departments at previous workplaces to provide me with a Linux laptop, as their engineers did not know how to set them up but they had compliance check-boxes they needed to fill in regardless of utility (antivirus being a third one but it turns out these days AV companies actually provide Linux builds). Now that the LDAP/AD stuff is sorted out, fingers crossed for TPM encryption.
- Wxc2jjJmST9XWWL 6y ago> "It's been a long time desire of mine to have a secure Linux laptop without needing to enter my password twice during startup" Only with regards to that sentence (as I don't know much about TPM): You can simply opt for full disk encryption during install, and then you can also select "automatically log me in on boot" (not exact wording) when creating your user. So you enter the encryption password and that's it. Not sure why you would _need_ to enter password twice with encryption? That's how I handle it. Screen lock, or returning from suspend still prompts for user password as usual.
- hctaw 6y agoCan anyone comment on how/if VST GUIs work properly? VST2 doesn't make many guarantees but the VST3 spec implies that Wayland is not supported at all. Ubuntu/Ubuntu Studio is a decent enough distro for audio production, so it would be sad if this was broken.
- marcocampos 6y agoHow's Wayland + Gnome working for fractional scaling in HiDPI screens? Last time I tried some applications like Chrome, Firefox and others would be all blurry.
- jagger27 6y agoSomewhat related: I’ve been using GNOME 40 on my Arch-based desktop and it’s really slick. It’s making the switch from macOS a little less painful. Looks like it didn’t make into this release. Completely unrelated: I just discovered Rofi (extensible Spotlight-ish launcher for Linux) and it’s lovely, especially when bound to Super+Space.
- 1337shadow 6y agoSame here, switched from dmenu to rofi a couple weeks ago, it's neat!
- trissylegs 6y agoI mean gnome 40 came out weeks ago. Not going to be in Ubuntu for a while. (Ubuntu does tend to lag on the Gnome front, which does give a chance for theme and extension devs to catch up)
- kentiko 6y agoIs it possible to use GNOME 40 on this release of Ubuntu?
- hkmaxpro 6y agoThey plan to provide a PPA for Gnome 40 on Ubuntu 21.04 https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/introducing-gnome-40/21508 https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/introducing-gnome-40/21508 In the mean time, there is an unofficial PPA https://launchpad.net/~shemgp/+archive/ubuntu/gnome-40 https://launchpad.net/~shemgp/+archive/ubuntu/gnome-40
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- watt 6y agoWhat is "super" ? Do you have some special keyboard?
- jagger27 6y ago
- rafaelturk 6y agoWhait what? ..and a Flutter application development SDK??
- mikece 6y agoFlutter is the default dev stack for Ubuntu desktop apps these days: native speed without the memory boat of Electron (among other advantages).
- scaladev 6y agoThis is old news. https://lwn.net/Articles/826124/ https://lwn.net/Articles/826124/ https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26375692 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26375692
- aliljet 6y agoI wonder if there's a significant alternative to the current audio system in Ubuntu 20.04 -- PulseAudio+ALSA are awful? For a year now, I've suffered with the most frustrating breakdowns getting sound to pump out of the right interface without causing my machine to burn 200 watts to "compute" something. I love Linux, I love Ubuntu, I use it everywhere, but this little daily-frustration quietly drives me back to my increasingly closed macbook.
- cstrahan 6y agoPipeWire looks like it's shaping up to be an excellent spiritual successor to (and unification of) both PulseAudio and JACK: https://pipewire.org/ https://pipewire.org/ https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/PipeWire https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/PipeWire
- brnt 6y agoIs pipewire in Ubuntu 21.04? I think Fedora 34 has it.
- e12e 6y agoLooks like screen/camera sharing: yes, audio: no https://lwn.net/Articles/849639/ https://lwn.net/Articles/849639/ Ed: or audio: yes? > Pipewire support is now enabled which restore working screen recording and allow better audio handling for sandboxed applications From release notes: https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/hirsute-hippo-release-notes/19221 https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/hirsute-hippo-release-notes/1... posted by @spivak in another comment.
- aliljet 6y agoThis got me reading. I didn't realize how quickly this change to PulseAudio might be. It looks like Fedora 34 is actively moving to PipeWire as it's new default. I wonder what's preventing Ubuntu from making a bigger change. More downstream dependencies? https://wiki.debian.org/PipeWire https://wiki.debian.org/PipeWire
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- williesleg 6y agoYay! Linux controlled by Active Directory by default!
- devwastaken 6y agoI still can't reconcile zfs in the installer. There's no warnings or information upfront about how you will make your filesystem into a nice brick if you upgrade your linux kernel and forget that your filesystem has to be manually upgraded with that kernel version. Distros should not include filesystems that aren't in the kernel in their official installer. Fedora made the right decisions with btrfs. If users want zfs they don't need the official installer for it.
- TheAdamAndChe 6y agoI disagree. Part of what I love about the Linux culture is that it gives me the freedom to tinker. The Ubuntu installer makes it absolutely clear that ZFS is still experimental, but it still lets me play with it. Granted, I swiftly broke my OS and moved away from ZFS when I tried it, but I like that it let me do that.
- andag 6y ago1. You won't get a kernel update that doesn't contain zfs support, as the distro contains this. 2. Even if you install a manual kernel from outside of ubuntu you wont' brick it.. you'd just have to boot the old kernel. btrfs and zfs are.. not comparable.
- devwastaken 6y agoIt does and did, tested on 20.10. Similar stories: https://reddit.com/r/zfs/comments/hasfax/how_do_you_update_linux_headers_without_breaking/ https://reddit.com/r/zfs/comments/hasfax/how_do_you_update_l... It's supposedly meant to "just work" but out of the box it did not. Which is a very common story with ubuntu sadly.
- kasabali 6y agoThat link is about Debian. Debian doesn't ship zfs module and it needs to be compiled separately for each kernel version. Ubuntu ships ZFS module in kernel package and it works without having to be compiled nor it needs header package.
- canada2us 6y agoIs Hacker News censored? Why doesn't this entry (395 pts) appear on the homepage?
- ncallaway 6y agoI don't think so? I clicked on it from the front page
- bfrog 6y agoHave they fixed the numerous snappy issues in this release? Namely snappy being slow, and desktop snaps being buggy?
- regularfry 6y agoI put the beta on an AMD Lenovo Yoga Slim 7 yesterday. The thing's slick as hell. As far as I can tell so far, everything just works. Apropos of which, does anyone know why trackpad interfaces are an area of active change? It really surprised me when the trackpad got disabled by closing and opening the lid on 20.10. I naively think of trackpad hardware as mostly a solved problem.
- barbiturique 6y agoyou would be surprised, I'm sorry for this poor comments, I have to get back to work. But last time I checked a year ago, some poor lone soul was trying to gofundme his effort to provide better drivers/firmware. Trackpad and sleep-mode are the two things I miss from windows/OSX. It's just more polished over there, specially OSX.
- nix23 6y agoiOS has a pretty good Trackpad too.
- lovedswain 6y agoAre there any known surprises coming from 19.10?
- e12e 6y agoWhy 19.10? (I mean, why not 20.04 lts?)
- lovedswain 6y agoBecause I'm running it of course.
- xbar 6y agoI don't run Ubuntu. If I did, your question has convinced me I would be happiest on an LTS version. 5 years of not changing much is more in line with my level of interest in puttering around my OS settings than every 9 months. https://ubuntu.com/about/release-cycle https://ubuntu.com/about/release-cycle
- lovedswain 6y agoThe 19.10 bump was to get some fresh base libraries to build something as I recall. I think it might have for Remmina. Otherwise totally agree with you, LTS is always preferable
- lorenzhs 6y agoAre you aware that you've been running a version that hasn't been getting updates since July of last year? If not, then having your OS actually get updates again might be a surprise. You'll have to update to 20.04 first, though, and then 20.10 before you can update that to 21.04. There's no direct update path (another known surprise, one might say). If you don't want to update every six months, just stick to the long-term support version (LTS, currently 20.04).
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- StormFiber 6y agoI've been using it with an AMD RX580 driving a 32" 4K monitor for a couple of years now and it just about works perfectly for my needs, including playing a few games through Steam. The only issue I have is that for some reason I occasionally cant alt-tab to the keepassxc window under gnome after I start it up. If you use Linux on the desktop and don't otherwise require an nvidia card (cuda, etc) it is worth while to switch to an AMD card or to spec one for a new build.
- pier25 6y ago> Firefox, OBS Studio and many applications built with Electron and Flutter Many applications built with Flutter? Such as?
- tomComb 6y agoThe full sentence is about them being able to take advantage of Wayland automatically. It appears to me that you've clipped the quote to change the meaning.
- pier25 6y agoThis is the full quote: > Firefox, OBS Studio and many applications built with Electron and Flutter take advantage of Wayland automatically, for smoother graphics and better fractional scaling. It implies that there are already many application built with Electron and Flutter. My question is simply: what Flutter applications?
- gman83 6y agoPresumably the new Ubuntu installer being built with Flutter: https://github.com/canonical/ubuntu-desktop-installer https://github.com/canonical/ubuntu-desktop-installer Not sure if that's already in this version.
- clarkevans 6y agoIs there an integrated replacement for i3wm/regolith that works on Wayland?
- lazyweb 6y agoAnyone having issues with nextcloud client segfaulting after upgrading from 20.10 to 21.04? Running Xubuntu. Their latest AppImage seems to work though.
- mrtweetyhack 6y agoeverything segfaults in Ubuntu lxsession-xdg-a[1316]: segfault at 0 ip 00007f967d163d4d sp 00007ffd59d48a70 error 4 in libglib-2.0.so.0.6705.0[7f967d136000+8d000]
- lazyweb 6y agoReplying to self, looks like it got fixed today. Got an update via apt.
- mrtweetyhack 6y agodon't do it. my experience, this is broken by default
- whitepoplar 6y agoDoes this release support ZFS on root (even as experimental) for server installs?
- pjdkoch 6y agoYep, I saw a checkbox for that.
- whitepoplar 6y agoJust to clarify, that's for the server ISO, not the desktop ISO? I know that as of 20.10, ZFS on root was available on desktop ISOs but not server ISOs.
- pjdkoch 6y agoI've only used the desktops installer. No clue about the server one.
- Andrew_nenakhov 6y agoMany years ago I have installed a 6.06 Ubuntu and was instantly charmed by the unexpected colors, unusual wallpapers and African themed sounds. Ubuntu had been my distribution of choice ever since. I'm somewhat sad that they have significantly scaled back their rich African theming since, but I still love them.
- second--shift 6y agoI too joined the Ubuntu/Linux community with 6.06 Dapper Drake. The Microsoft antitrust debacle was still fresh in early '06 - I was attracted to the message of "this is free, you have intrinsic value, this belongs to you by this virtue". It also turned out to be a great computing OS (wi-fi card issues notwithstanding in 2006).
- jbunc 6y agoHow many of you upgrade day of release? Wait a little bit to see how others feel about it? or only stick to LTS?
- gideontong 6y agoI stick only to LTS releases. I'm in no need for bleeding edge features, and I'd rather have a system that's much more likely to be stable.
- ldiracdelta 6y agoI'm all about the penguin method of upgrading. Wait to see if there are seals in the ocean that eat the early penguins.
- pbhjpbhj 6y agoWhat if the orca ate all the seals!?
- bjoli 6y agoI use LTS and install newer version of things I need using guix.
- bombcar 6y agoAcross all my OS I usually wait a month or so for major upgrades (exception: Gentoo which is rolling) - unless there's a new feature I really need.
- barbiturique 6y agoI stick to LTS. I sometime have to update the kernel because of hardware devices or special needs. But even then, I use grub to pick witch kernel I wanna use. Once the next LTS is out, I usually wait a few more months. I'm not a big fan of having my workstation not being able to do basic things. ( no hard feelings, I trust the process )
- pas 6y agoI used to add the new release repos after kernel freeze, sometimes earlier. For the last many years I remember absolutely no breaking. (Using Xfce, but also have KDE and Gnome installed too.)
- 2pointsomone 6y agoI have been following the Ubuntu homepage for about 15 years, and it's so interesting how they went from prominently promoting every CTA around downloading the desktop version, to now, where I had to spend 5 minutes trying to find a link on their site to the ubuntu.com/desktop site.
- lucis 6y agoFor me it was ubuntu.com -> Hover on Download -> Click on the green button below Ubuntu Desktop.
- 2pointsomone 6y agoExactly! The only way we ever knew how to use ubuntu.com.
- jandrese 6y agoI had to actually click on the "Download" button to make the download pane appear, but it seemed pretty straightforward to me. There is a large link to "Ubuntu Desktop" at the top left. I'm not sure why this was so hard for the GP. Maybe it could be slightly easier if you didn't have to click on the big Download link in the first place, but it seems to require very low effort as far as I can tell. Maybe he's running on a textmode browser with no Javascript support?
- stjohnswarts 6y agoquickest way to navigate their site is with duckduckgo or google.
- mikkelam 6y agoThis is actually incredible. I can't believe it's this hard to get your hands on their most important product. I can totally imagine this costing several would-be-users
- nix23 6y ago>on their most important product. That's the ec2 image over at amazon.
- temp667 6y agoI know the Fedora Council has really come out against Stallman and has announced a number of steps Fedora will be taking against Stallman and FSF. This was in connection with an RMS open letter. You can read the open letter here: "Richard M. Stallman, frequently known as RMS, has been a dangerous force in the free software community for a long time. He has shown himself to be misogynist, ableist, and transphobic, among other serious accusations of impropriety." - https://rms-open-letter.github.io/ https://rms-open-letter.github.io/ Because of his history of abuse (per Fedora) Fedora will not attend any FSF events, will not attend any event Stallman attends and will not attend any events by any Organization Stallman is connected with. Has ubuntu taken a similar stance? I couldn't find a similar Ubuntu open letter on this.
- boyadjian 6y agoI use Ubuntu LTS as a HTPC/NAS, it runs smoothly 24h/24, very happy with it
- leephillips 6y agoFor my most recent install I used Debian with nonfree firmware. It worked quite well, and I don’t have to deal with “snaps” or worry about what new shenanigans Canonical is up to. I recommend it.
- fisting 6y agoI know it's meant to be a hippopotamus, but the default desktop background just reminds me of a couple of hairy testicles. https://res.cloudinary.com/canonical/image/fetch/f_auto,q_auto,fl_sanitize,c_fill,w_1440/https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/O2LmMKBNNiBhLGjEvGLySkJA-cO_ZqiS8uVTDGK1fCCfhhfOMkDrUDhpeE9l6WQfEDwpTgbSxe2fH5LpbaDhBvIW-jn1DLkixH2E8kWb_lLsLOAVB1DWNEI4-yFoTZctB6I7QY5R https://res.cloudinary.com/canonical/image/fetch/f_auto,q_au... Definitely changing that after install, I don't want to be greeted by a giant parcel of pubes when I log in.
- axaxs 6y agoWhile I don't see that right away, I do think the image could have done without the hair.
- Uehreka 6y agoI thought the same thing, except my brain thought it looked like a hairy butt. I know this is a really dumb thing to comment on when there's so much actual substantive change in this release, but this image is literally the first impression new users will get for the next six months, and will be the thumbnail for tons of tutorials and such during the next year. It probably could've done with another revising pass.
- ufo 6y agoI miss the Hardy Heron wallpaper. That one was very beautiful and invited me to switch to Linux.
- kd913 6y agoDisco dingo had some amazing wallpapers and name.
- neither_color 6y agoDo hippos even have notable amounts of hair? lmgtfm Unlike most other semiaquatic animals, hippos have very little hair. The skin is 6 cm (2 in) thick, providing it great protection against conspecifics and predators.
- erikstarck 6y ago2021 will be the year of Linux on the desktop.
- roody15 6y agoNot sure how I feel about the native Active Directory integration. See some ups here but have some concerns as well.
- nix23 6y agoStorytime: A distant friend of mine was a Sailor of a big cargo ship around 2007 (i think), he had just a crappy Satellite connection. But he wanted an easy Linux next to his XP, so he ordered a FREE! ubuntu-cd to the next port, it was there, he is now a Dev specialized in shipping-load-unload-software.
- Rapzid 6y agoTried out XUbuntu(My preferred to date) with XFCE 4.16 and fractional scaling. I run a Windows 10 guest with linux in VirtualBox machines and I have a 27inch 4k screen at ~144 DPI. The fractional scaling is garbage in this setup; and not just because you put the numbers in backwards from what you'd expect(2x is 2x smaller, and 0.5 seems to be 150% larger). It seems like it just scales the rendered output; everything is blurry! Scaling the DPI up to 144 however makes almost everything nice. The term, Chrome, VSCode, Intellij and etc all seem to adjust properly based on the DPI setting. The fractional scaling has a multiplier effect on that though, and so then reducing the DPI makes it smaller but still blurry. It also causes a lot of lag. So, fractional scaling in XUbuntu seems to be scaling the video output and not just the UI like you would expect. Adjusting this in VirtualBox itself leads to better performance.
- greatgib 6y agoJust opened the page and from the first sentence I had the proof that the ubuntu of Canonical is now a ghost of itself and already far down on the slippery slope... "22 April 2021: Today, Canonical released Ubuntu 21.04 with native Microsoft Active Directory integration, Wayland graphics by default, and a Flutter application development SDK. Separately, Canonical and Microsoft announced performance optimization and joint support for Microsoft SQL Server on Ubuntu." So, the major changes done to the distribution is to suck up Microsoft and Google at the same time, and integrate whatever shitty stack that they want to push. For example, Microsoft SQL, if you are on Linux, you have the full power of Postgres, Mariadb, ..., who in his right mind would willing-fully use Ms SQL on Linux? And so, going one step further and spend resources to work on that as priority and market it? As a very long term Linux and Open Source proponent, I have the feeling that it is a hold up.
- twodave 6y agoNot really disagreeing with the spirit of your comment, but choice of RDBMS is rarely based on the desktop environment of the developers, except in maybe small/hobby projects where the differences don't really matter anyway. As someone who works in a .NET shop, it's been possible for a while to run MS SQL Server on Linux, anyway. This leads to a smaller overall footprint for those of us using dockerfiles to spin up test environments and such.
- jcastro 6y ago> For example, Microsoft SQL, if you are on Linux, you have the full power of Postgres, Mariadb, ..., who in his right mind would willing-fully use Ms SQL on Linux? It's not an operating system's job to tell people what to run on it, it's job is to provide a platform. If you want to go around yelling at people for using MS SQL then that's your choice right? Don't expect others to do the same.
- GordonS 6y ago> integrate whatever shitty stack that they want to push > who in his right mind would willing-fully use Ms SQL on Linux? The anti-anything-Microsoft rhetoric got old a long time ago, and TBH, comes across as petulent and a bit childish. Having actually used it for several years, I can say that MS SQL is a really good database - it has features and integrations that Postgres doesn't, and vice-versa. And if nothing else, having SQL Server on Linux is great for running on Docker when testing. FWIW, I'm a huge fan of Postgres, and it's my database of choice - nobody is forcing you to use SQL Server just because it's better supported. It seems to me that changes like this only serve to bolster the popularity of Linux.
- hatsunearu 6y ago>Ubuntu 21.04 uses Wayland by default did they fix all the issues with Wayland on desktop yet? Like HiDPI being broken, Electron-based apps being blurry, broken color management, broken 60+fps, etc etc
- aendruk 6y agoThe content of this page is obstructed by a full-viewport modal employing dark patterns to get me to enter into some agreement with Canonical. Why so hostile?
- ravi-delia 6y agoUnlike many sites of it's kind, the expanded settings page defaults to everything turned off, allowing the user to just save preferences without clicking individually. I personally think that's a good compromise, especially when you have lots of options if you really hate cookies.
- vladstudio 6y agoI cannot imagine myself using the default wallpaper, so I made an alternative: https://vlad.studio/wallpaper/ubuntu_hirsute_hippo https://vlad.studio/wallpaper/ubuntu_hirsute_hippo