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Is there a source for this? Seems way more likely to be monetarily pushed by either investors or advertisers (as other poster said) or at least pre-emptively do

Is there a source for this? Seems way more likely to be monetarily pushed by either investors or advertisers (as other poster said) or at least pre-emptively done to appease those groups.

nickysielicki 5y ago
Source: https://www.vice.com/en/article/xg8jq4/spotify-joe-rogan-transphobic https://www.vice.com/en/article/xg8jq4/spotify-joe-rogan-tra... > One of the submitted questions was "Many LGBTQAI+/ally Spotifiers feel unwelcome and alienated because of leadership's response in JRE conversations. What is your message to those employees?" Another was “Why has Spotify chosen to ignore Spectrum ERG's guidance about transphobic content in the JRE catalog?,” referring to a group of Spotify workers who focus on related issues. > At the meeting, Ek also told employees not to leak to the media, noting "If we can't have open, confidential debates, we will have to move those discussions to closed doors."
- SpicyLemonZest 5y ago
  Although it should be noted that the main episode at issue in that controversy, with Abigail Shrier, wasn't one of the ones removed in this recent wave and is still on Spotify.
- temp667 5y ago
  What is Spectrum ERG? Most corps do follow guidance from legal / HR etc to a degree - it's weird if that was being ignored.
  - sethhochberg 5y ago
    "ERG" in this context is probably an Employee Resource Group - a pretty common construct at larger organizations. Think of them as a formal way for employees with some kind of shared set of goals or concerns to organize and support each other, usually completely distinct from their actual job function. ERGs often have some kind of liaison from HR, especially since they are often associated with diversity programs. But the ERG itself is usually just advisory if they're consulted on something the company is doing.
- sky_rw 5y ago
  "LGBTQAI+/ally" at some point we are going to need an abbreviation for this abbreviation.
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fleshdaddy 5y ago
I don’t know from an advertisers perspective it seems like JRE is pretty mainstream. I don’t recall them having trouble getting sponsors in the past.
- nradov 5y ago
  Most JRE sponsors were smaller companies targeting niche markets. He didn't have any mass market brands like Starbucks or Chevrolet.
  - themolecularman 5y ago
    Honest Q, but do any mass market brands like that advertise on podcasts? It seems like all I hear are the usual suspects: Me Undies, Blue Apron, etc.
    - Ekaros 5y ago
      Why would they? They got enough money and reach to go directly on platforms themselves... On other hand, I'm not entirely sure how I feel about the companies marketing on things like pod casts... Some pretty famous ones don't seem to be too special products, see Raid Shadowlegends, Raycon and all of the VPN providers...

Is there a source for this? Seems way more likely to be monetarily pushed by either investors or advertisers (as other poster said) or at least pre-emptively done to appease those groups.

nickysielicki 5y ago

Source: https://www.vice.com/en/article/xg8jq4/spotify-joe-rogan-transphobic https://www.vice.com/en/article/xg8jq4/spotify-joe-rogan-tra... > One of the submitted questions was "Many LGBTQAI+/ally Spotifiers feel unwelcome and alienated because of leadership's response in JRE conversations. What is your message to those employees?" Another was “Why has Spotify chosen to ignore Spectrum ERG's guidance about transphobic content in the JRE catalog?,” referring to a group of Spotify workers who focus on related issues. > At the meeting, Ek also told employees not to leak to the media, noting "If we can't have open, confidential debates, we will have to move those discussions to closed doors."

SpicyLemonZest 5y ago
Although it should be noted that the main episode at issue in that controversy, with Abigail Shrier, wasn't one of the ones removed in this recent wave and is still on Spotify.
temp667 5y ago
What is Spectrum ERG? Most corps do follow guidance from legal / HR etc to a degree - it's weird if that was being ignored.
- sethhochberg 5y ago
  "ERG" in this context is probably an Employee Resource Group - a pretty common construct at larger organizations. Think of them as a formal way for employees with some kind of shared set of goals or concerns to organize and support each other, usually completely distinct from their actual job function. ERGs often have some kind of liaison from HR, especially since they are often associated with diversity programs. But the ERG itself is usually just advisory if they're consulted on something the company is doing.
sky_rw 5y ago
"LGBTQAI+/ally" at some point we are going to need an abbreviation for this abbreviation.
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fleshdaddy 5y ago

I don’t know from an advertisers perspective it seems like JRE is pretty mainstream. I don’t recall them having trouble getting sponsors in the past.

nradov 5y ago
Most JRE sponsors were smaller companies targeting niche markets. He didn't have any mass market brands like Starbucks or Chevrolet.
- themolecularman 5y ago
  Honest Q, but do any mass market brands like that advertise on podcasts? It seems like all I hear are the usual suspects: Me Undies, Blue Apron, etc.
  - Ekaros 5y ago
    Why would they? They got enough money and reach to go directly on platforms themselves... On other hand, I'm not entirely sure how I feel about the companies marketing on things like pod casts... Some pretty famous ones don't seem to be too special products, see Raid Shadowlegends, Raycon and all of the VPN providers...