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LG dryer traffic – 1GB+ daily up/down
- coolspot 6y agoIt is likely infected and is renting residential IP to web scraping companies.
- viraptor 6y agoHave you got any references for it, or is it a random guess?
- rcxdude 6y agoRelatively unlikely in this case because from the description is seems all the traffic is to/from one EC2 IP address.
- coolspot 6y agoEC2 instance is an aggregator’s proxy or scraping backend itself. Ah, wait, I just realized it can’t be if there is no any traffic other than AWS.
- londons_explore 6y agoI assune the attacker doesn't own that EC2 instance. If they did, the bandwidth costs would be prohibitive (there is no economic reason to pay XX cents per GB to send data to a tiny remote CPU for processing)
- ovi256 6y agoThis sucks. Why connect random ownable devices to your network, especially for the low low benefit of <checks notes> ... knowing when the clothes' drier is done ?!? Connected firmware updatable white goods allow appliance manufacturers to do even less QA because they can always fix it later, which wasn't possible before. If you're the paranoid who won't connect random crap to the net, this is bad news, as you'll get lower quality appliances.
- tdy_err 6y agoI did know true exhilaration until I turned on my dryer light remotely
- tanseydavid 6y ago"Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic" </sarc>
- EveYoung 6y agoI wouldn't be surprised if we get internet-only appliances soon, which charge customers on a pay-per-use basis. Considering the low margins on the average whitegoods, it could be an attractive business model to bundle the consumables with the hardware as part of a subscription/PAYG model. Or you could lockdown certain modes and temperatures behind a paywall. Similar how the car industry is already doing it.
- theriddlr 6y agoThermomix locks a few features behind a subscription. "Subscription-only features include caramelization, slow cooking, and frying." https://www.thespruceeats.com/thermomix-tm6-review-4693221 https://www.thespruceeats.com/thermomix-tm6-review-4693221
- HomeDeLaPot 6y agoWow. And those features don't work without WiFi. Why the heck would it need an internet connection and a subscription to fry something? It already costs $1,500! You'd think maybe it would be using AI to figure out how to best fry the food or something like that, but the article also says the frying function didn't work very well...
- theriddlr 6y agoThe smart models have recipe step-by-step. The recipes can send commands to the Thermomix rather than manually setting the dials and timers. There's also a baby companion Thermomix Friend that can receive commands from the main unit to cook dishes separately e.g. a sauce. https://www.vorwerk.co.uk/thermomix/thermomix-friend/ https://www.vorwerk.co.uk/thermomix/thermomix-friend/ I have the dumb TM31.
- ncmncm 6y agoDoes it have a "reset to factory settings" operation?
- rPlayer6554 6y agoIt must be tumbling bitcoin....
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- Ayesh 6y agoMake use of the heat!
- breakingcups 6y agoWhat worries me is that soon we won't be able to monitor this anymore because these devices won't be dependent on a customer-supplied internet connection anymore. Instead, they'll all have cellular connectivity and we'll have no idea what is being sent, to whom and why. And I fear that there will be no device manufacturers in the same price range left that don't include this feature. Similar to how Smart TV's are cheaper than dumb displays of identical specs.
- krageon 6y ago> have cellular connectivity Then you'll get local shops that sell the machines painted in 2-3 layers of faraday paint (or apply some sort of cage, or solder out the antenna, etc). Or perhaps just like in the old console hardmod days everyone will know someone that can "mod" your dryer so it stops being dumb and just dries your clothes.
- llampx 6y agoNice thought, but highly unlikely.
- krageon 6y agoIt probably depends strongly on how annoying the connection is. For most people irritation is a much stronger motivator than principles.
- posixplz 6y agoFYI, RF paints are poor signal attenuators, even when applied in multiple coats. There’s no RF paint product that can stop commercial cell communication across usable spectrum.
- londons_explore 6y agoYet build a house with foil backed foam insulation from Home Depot and you'll have no mobile signal indoors... So frustrating!
- mensetmanusman 6y agoAt one point, Samsung had a press release telling consumers not to talk about confidential things near the TV. https://www.google.com/amp/s/theweek.com/speedreads-amp/538379/samsung-warns-customers-not-discuss-personal-information-front-smart-tvs https://www.google.com/amp/s/theweek.com/speedreads-amp/5383... Maybe LG needs the audio to sell to advertising. They would have data not collected in the entertainment room.
- uep 6y agoAfter following a few links through this one. It sounds like it might be the "LG Homehack vulnerability" discussed here: https://www.ibtimes.com/homehack-attack-vulnerability-lg-app-allowed-hackers-spy-victims-2607390 https://www.ibtimes.com/homehack-attack-vulnerability-lg-app...
- midnitewarrior 6y agoAsk yourself why you need a dryer that needs wi-fi.
- Ecstatify 6y agoSo I could control the dryer remotely. So I can get a notification when the dryer is finished. So I could be alerted if some goes wrong with the dryer or if it needs a service.
- kybernetyk 6y agoCan you put in clothes remotely? Or take them out remotely? No? Then IOT is pretty much useless in this case.
- coldtea 5y agoI think the parent meant actual reasons, not bogus ones with zero marginal utility... The ones mentioned, we could already read in the company's marketing material...
- Salgat 5y agoI actually use these though. It's a boon for someone with ADHD for a dryer that has adaptive drying (the drying time varies based on moisture content, so the estimate isn't perfect). I'll be plugging away at my computer and my phone tells me "hey it's time to take them out". It's even more valuable when you have a washer with alerts, since you can know exactly when to do the next load.
- yumraj 5y agoWe have a treadmill, bought from Costco, with an android screen and controls. I found out that it was constantly pinging a Chinese site/portal don’t remember the name. It’s not one of the known famous ones. I had to disconnect it from Internet..