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Could you explain more about what is consumer hostile about Google's re-captcha? Any recommended alternatives would be appreciated as well.
by johnnybaptist 6y ago
Could you explain more about what is consumer hostile about Google's re-captcha?
Any recommended alternatives would be appreciated as well.
- deleted 6y ago[deleted]
- edoceo 6y agohCaptcha has been mentioned as alternative.
- kevincox 6y agoI find hCaptcha way more annoying to solve than reCAPTCHA. The puzzles take way longer and I often have to do multiple of them.
- z77dj3kl 6y agoDo you block Google trackers aggressively? reCAPTCHA uses that very heavily: if you allow all of their stuff and they track you across the web, you'll have to basically never do more than click the button. On the other hand, if you take your privacy seriously and are aggressive about tracker blocking, you'll have a pretty awful time. I imagine hCaptcha doesn't have enough trackers sprinkled around the web to use those as signals for this.
- kevincox 6y agoI do block Google trackers, and have network state partitioning enabled, however the reCAPTCHA tests are usually bearable. (often a checkbox, sometimes a page) It seem like I get at least 2 pages of tests for hCaptcha every time.
- Jiejeing 6y agoSame. I heavily block google scripts and hate reCAPTCHA with a passion, but hCaptcha really takes the cake for the most painful captcha experience.
- eatbots 6y agoThis is under the control of the site with hCaptcha, so you'll tend to see more variety in difficulty levels depending on their settings. There will always be some individual variance, but when we've tested this people always solve hCaptcha faster than reCAPTCHA on average. (disclosure: work there)
- minsc__and__boo 6y agoIf they're using the latest version (v3) of re-captcha, it's not hostile as it doesn't even have user interaction. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tbvxFW4UJdU https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tbvxFW4UJdU It runs entirely in the background, and pretty much the only time you'll see a prompt is if you're using a VPN, Tor, or specifically block it.
- jraph 6y agoYes, "it runs entirely in the background" means it tracks the hell out of you, across websites. Basically you are blocked if you care about privacy and refuse this tracking. That's what I'm willing to call "hostile". I'd say, it's even worse than picking a few pictures, which is already hostile.
- iujjkfjdkkdkf 6y agoThat's about it. Horrible user experience - oh you're about to pay us, just click a few sidewalks first - and condescension of asking people to do a menial task that improves their ML models. But forcing you to use one of their sanctioned browsers and let the record what they want to is where the real hostility comes in. Its exercising monopoly power to squeeze more out of people and repress competition, I'd call that hostile.
- minsc__and__boo 6y agoWhich is still miles less hostile than a website forcing you to prove you are not a bot, every single time, which was the point.
- swiley 6y ago>pretty much the only time you'll see a prompt is if you're using a VPN, Tor, or specifically block it. Or using a non Google browser or using an account that Google doesn't like (because they can't associate it with a real identity or whatever.)
- tinus_hn 6y agoYou’re only a considered a real person if you use Googles blessed browser set up the way Google likes it.
- nindalf 6y agoThis is not true. I've used exclusively Firefox and Safari for years and have never fallen afoul of recaptcha except when testing it as a developer.