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The site has a big re-captcha banner on it - one of Google's most consumer hostile products. They should consider switching to something else if they want to "t
by iujjkfjdkkdkf 6y ago
The site has a big re-captcha banner on it - one of Google's most consumer hostile products. They should consider switching to something else if they want to "take on google".
- sedatk 6y agoWhat’s the non-hostile alternative?
- Nextgrid 6y agoOld-school "squiggly letters" captcha? For all the fear mongering around AI and machine learning supposedly breaking them, I'm still not aware of a general-purpose tool that would solve those out of the box without significant engineering effort.
- spijdar 6y agoA general purpose tool like this one? https://github.com/PatrickLib/captcha_recognize https://github.com/PatrickLib/captcha_recognize
- throwaway53453 6y agoThe worry is not about ML. It's about bot farms in India/China with real people behind the wheel. That's why CAPTCHA needs to be able to evolve without maintenance from the website operator.
- tinus_hn 6y agoIt’s not like Googles solution is watertight.
- johnnybaptist 6y agoCould you explain more about what is consumer hostile about Google's re-captcha? Any recommended alternatives would be appreciated as well.
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- edoceo 6y agohCaptcha has been mentioned as alternative.
- kevincox 6y agoI find hCaptcha way more annoying to solve than reCAPTCHA. The puzzles take way longer and I often have to do multiple of them.
- z77dj3kl 6y agoDo you block Google trackers aggressively? reCAPTCHA uses that very heavily: if you allow all of their stuff and they track you across the web, you'll have to basically never do more than click the button. On the other hand, if you take your privacy seriously and are aggressive about tracker blocking, you'll have a pretty awful time. I imagine hCaptcha doesn't have enough trackers sprinkled around the web to use those as signals for this.
- kevincox 6y agoI do block Google trackers, and have network state partitioning enabled, however the reCAPTCHA tests are usually bearable. (often a checkbox, sometimes a page) It seem like I get at least 2 pages of tests for hCaptcha every time.
- Jiejeing 6y agoSame. I heavily block google scripts and hate reCAPTCHA with a passion, but hCaptcha really takes the cake for the most painful captcha experience.
- eatbots 6y agoThis is under the control of the site with hCaptcha, so you'll tend to see more variety in difficulty levels depending on their settings. There will always be some individual variance, but when we've tested this people always solve hCaptcha faster than reCAPTCHA on average. (disclosure: work there)
- rapnie 6y agoWell, the site is probably not taking on Google all that much just yet, but they are interviewing Marko Saric who is. The plausible landing page gives me zero cookies and only requests are to plausible.io and testing.plausible.io https://plausible.io/ https://plausible.io/
- melomal 6y agoThe fact that they will need to pay Google for this service after a certain threshold also limits taking them on. Pennies but still paying them.
- elliekelly 6y agoOff topic but I’ve noticed recently that I’m frequently forced to incorrectly answer re-captchas the way a computer would in order to move forward. Some examples: “click all the tractors” showed I did not complete the task because of a photo of construction equipment; “click all the crosswalks” because I didn’t select the photo of a thick white fence; “click all the traffic lights” because I didn’t select a photo of a parking meter. I just clicked the incorrect photo so I could move on but I can’t help but wonder if there’s any mechanism to catch those incorrect (manual, human) annotations on the training data Google is collecting.