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Quite the arrogance here of mostly software devs trying to out -solutionize marine/shipping experts who undoubtedly have been consulted and are already looking

Quite the arrogance here of mostly software devs trying to out -solutionize marine/shipping experts who undoubtedly have been consulted and are already looking for the quickest way to resolve the situation. With billions of dollars in stake, I'm sure even the most expensive experts are involved.

rossdavidh 6y ago
We're kind of like physicists: https://xkcd.com/793/ https://xkcd.com/793/
- divbzero 6y ago
  “Now consider a spherical ship…”
  - imtringued 6y ago
    I don't like the spherical cow meme because it misses the point. The assumption isn't that the cow is a sphere but rather that all cows have 4 legs, all cows give milk, there are lots of cows, etc. From a cursory glance these may look completely reasonable, until they aren't. Some cows injured their legs and can't walk. There are male "cows" that don't give milk. Sometimes there is only one cow. Meanwhile the spherical cow meme implies that there was never any truth to it in the first place. The complexity of life throws a wrench into everything.
Havoc 6y ago
Yeah they flew in a 10 man team from Netherlands pretty much immediately
dahdum 6y ago
Looks to me like everyone here is just having fun theorizing about it, I don’t see much, if any, real arrogance.
ngokevin 6y ago
Better than the coronavirus takes I've seen from software devs...
- vectorcrumb 6y ago
  Like that guy who wrote a blog post about not waiting around after taking a COVID vaccine because it's a much greater risk than checking for an allergic reaction?
- Fiveplus 6y ago
  Characteristic of any forum. We're nuanced wikipedia experts on every conceivable topic under the sun.
davesque 6y ago
Maybe people just find it to be an interesting problem and are having fun thinking out loud about it.
- nickthemagicman 6y ago
  I'm not even commenting and enjoying reading these ideas.
1123581321 6y ago
I think the people chatting would have to be involved in some way for amateur theories to be problematic.
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mynameishere 6y ago
Is it totally implausible that ordinary intelligent people might have some ideas better than "put some tug boats on one end, and a single backhoe on the other end"? Because that's what your expensive experts have come up with so far. For my brilliant idea: Announce that everything on the ship is free, including the ship itself, and watch all the ragamuffins of Egypt strip it to nothing in a day.
- 1propionyl 6y ago
  Ah yes, the solution isn't to consult experts, but to step back and expect racist stereotypes to solve the problem! Brilliant!
  - adenozine 6y ago
    I can understand your reaction, but the commenter might not have been thinking about racism that way. It's not crazy to think that poor people near a waterway might know a thing or two about strip salvaging. It was just phrased poorly, I think.
- Vhano 6y ago
  as an Arab myself, I've done a fair bit of ship stripping and this may be a great idea. I may have enough tools in my backyard to strip a container ship and so does my neighbour Abdul Mohamed.
- arkitaip 6y ago
  You are a total imbecile, Sir.
banana_giraffe 6y ago
I'm not sure it's arrogance. I'm reading these theories and suggestions as a fun thought experiment. I also like comparing the real solution, whatever it is, with my memory of the arm-chair solutions to see how far off the mark they are.
jldugger 6y ago
... but I think we've also identified a market for a Poly Bridge style game where you try to unstuck a containers ship from the canal in increasingly absurd ways.
- a9h74j 6y ago
  How soon will this be standard in SV interviews?
person_of_color 6y ago
Kind of like geohot fixing covid
nullsense 6y ago
No need to leave a comment then.
quickthrower2 6y ago
It’s damn fun and I’m looking forward to the n-gate analysis of this thread. In the mean time nuke that ship! Or more seriously what creating a parallel canal around that but for now. With dynamite.
golergka 6y ago
Kubernetes memes we got out of this are pure gold though.
- quickthrower2 6y ago
  Yeah it was a cluster fuck
exikyut 6y ago
Bikeshedding can look like that sometimes.

rossdavidh 6y ago

We're kind of like physicists: https://xkcd.com/793/ https://xkcd.com/793/

divbzero 6y ago
“Now consider a spherical ship…”
- imtringued 6y ago
  I don't like the spherical cow meme because it misses the point. The assumption isn't that the cow is a sphere but rather that all cows have 4 legs, all cows give milk, there are lots of cows, etc. From a cursory glance these may look completely reasonable, until they aren't. Some cows injured their legs and can't walk. There are male "cows" that don't give milk. Sometimes there is only one cow. Meanwhile the spherical cow meme implies that there was never any truth to it in the first place. The complexity of life throws a wrench into everything.

Havoc 6y ago

Yeah they flew in a 10 man team from Netherlands pretty much immediately

dahdum 6y ago

Looks to me like everyone here is just having fun theorizing about it, I don’t see much, if any, real arrogance.

ngokevin 6y ago

Better than the coronavirus takes I've seen from software devs...

vectorcrumb 6y ago
Like that guy who wrote a blog post about not waiting around after taking a COVID vaccine because it's a much greater risk than checking for an allergic reaction?
Fiveplus 6y ago
Characteristic of any forum. We're nuanced wikipedia experts on every conceivable topic under the sun.

davesque 6y ago

Maybe people just find it to be an interesting problem and are having fun thinking out loud about it.

nickthemagicman 6y ago
I'm not even commenting and enjoying reading these ideas.

1123581321 6y ago

I think the people chatting would have to be involved in some way for amateur theories to be problematic.

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mynameishere 6y ago

Is it totally implausible that ordinary intelligent people might have some ideas better than "put some tug boats on one end, and a single backhoe on the other end"? Because that's what your expensive experts have come up with so far. For my brilliant idea: Announce that everything on the ship is free, including the ship itself, and watch all the ragamuffins of Egypt strip it to nothing in a day.

1propionyl 6y ago
Ah yes, the solution isn't to consult experts, but to step back and expect racist stereotypes to solve the problem! Brilliant!
- adenozine 6y ago
  I can understand your reaction, but the commenter might not have been thinking about racism that way. It's not crazy to think that poor people near a waterway might know a thing or two about strip salvaging. It was just phrased poorly, I think.
Vhano 6y ago
as an Arab myself, I've done a fair bit of ship stripping and this may be a great idea. I may have enough tools in my backyard to strip a container ship and so does my neighbour Abdul Mohamed.
arkitaip 6y ago
You are a total imbecile, Sir.

banana_giraffe 6y ago

I'm not sure it's arrogance. I'm reading these theories and suggestions as a fun thought experiment. I also like comparing the real solution, whatever it is, with my memory of the arm-chair solutions to see how far off the mark they are.

jldugger 6y ago

... but I think we've also identified a market for a Poly Bridge style game where you try to unstuck a containers ship from the canal in increasingly absurd ways.

a9h74j 6y ago
How soon will this be standard in SV interviews?

person_of_color 6y ago

Kind of like geohot fixing covid

nullsense 6y ago

No need to leave a comment then.

quickthrower2 6y ago

It’s damn fun and I’m looking forward to the n-gate analysis of this thread. In the mean time nuke that ship! Or more seriously what creating a parallel canal around that but for now. With dynamite.

golergka 6y ago

Kubernetes memes we got out of this are pure gold though.

quickthrower2 6y ago
Yeah it was a cluster fuck

exikyut 6y ago

Bikeshedding can look like that sometimes.