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Compare AWS and Azure Services to Google Cloud
- count 6y ago"Anthos clusters on AWS" No equivalent alternative. Uh. Really, no Anthos on AWS equivalent on Azure? Or AWS? Boy, they're really missing that managed Kubernetes cluster game. Maybe I'm just dense, having only been doing this cloud thing for a decade or so, but this table seems...misleading or just wrong in so many ways.
- richards 6y agoKeeping scrolling! Under GKE (managed Kubernetes), you see the call outs to EKS and AKS, respectively. The Anthos point is that other clouds don't offer their k8s stacks as supported options on other clouds. If you see things you find wrong in the table, let me know. Disclaimer: I work in product management at Google Cloud
- sanatgersappa 6y agoum, how about this one? - https://azure.microsoft.com/en-in/services/azure-arc https://azure.microsoft.com/en-in/services/azure-arc
- jiggawatts 6y agoDoes anyone actually use Azure Arc? Azure Policy to me seems like a tech demo more than a polished product. Even for common tasks such as enabling Diagnostics they just provide some "sample" policies, and then authoring the other 275 distinct policies for each resource type that can be monitored is your problem. Does anyone have any real-world experience with it?
- richards 6y agoArc looks cool, but it's only the control plane. They aren't dropping AKS into other environments. The compute is your responsibility. Anthos puts GKE in other places.
- carlosf 6y agoNot sure if it's already GA, but AWS announced a product called EKS / ECS Anywhere last year that covered this use case. Edit: not GA yet
- bushbaba 6y ago> other clouds don't offer their k8s stacks as supported options on other clouds. AWS does have these offerings. https://aws.amazon.com/eks/eks-anywhere/ https://aws.amazon.com/eks/eks-anywhere/ https://aws.amazon.com/eks/eks-distro/ https://aws.amazon.com/eks/eks-distro/
- resonantjacket5 6y agoIt doesn't look like "eks anywhere"is released yet?
- orf 6y agoEKS anywhere looks different to the GKE offering - seems focused on on-premise?
- yukai 6y agoCloudBuild, CloudDeploy, CloudPipelines guess it should be CodeBuild, CodeDeploy, CodePipeline
- e12e 6y ago> "supported options" So you can get Google managed k8s on azure with Google support (ie: none?) rather than managed k8s on azure with ms support (ie: some?)?
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- kjfarm 6y ago“Amazon Redshit Spectrum” Freudian slip?
- movedx 6y agoDo you have a screenshot?
- rany_ 6y agoSearch for "Redshit" in https://web.archive.org/web/20210324005720/https://cloud.google.com/free/docs/aws-azure-gcp-service-comparison https://web.archive.org/web/20210324005720/https://cloud.goo... It is legit
- arapatzanadhih 6y agoFixed now. Ooof.
- rany_ 6y ago> The Wayback Machine has not archived that URL. Can Google just delete stuff from the wayback machine?
- neolog 6y agoIs there a thing where I describe my workload and it will give me price ranges for all the clouds?
- slivanes 6y agoI don't think Google's fabled AI could even work out costs in any cloud service.
- jsmith99 6y agoGoogle can't even work out costs for their own products. For example try asking the pricing calculator to quote for a shared core Cloud SQL postgres instance: there's a drop down that invites you to choose between shared and dedicated types but neither is an option, only 'custom'. https://cloud.google.com/products/calculator https://cloud.google.com/products/calculator
- amanzi 6y agoTaloflow got featured here last week - might be what you're looking for? https://www.taloflow.ai/ https://www.taloflow.ai/
- neolog 6y agoLooks like it's in the right direction, though I don't like "write speed: 4 stars". Seems like it just be in Gb/s rather than subjective star ratings. Thanks for the link.
- mlthoughts2018 6y agoThe resource limits are so severely restricted on Cloud Run that I don’t think it’s fair to compare it to Fargate. The space of use cases solved well with Fargate is far, far larger.
- runeks 6y ago> The resource limits are so severely restricted on Cloud Run [...] Honest question: which of the limits in https://cloud.google.com/run/quotas#cloud_run_limits https://cloud.google.com/run/quotas#cloud_run_limits do you find “severely restricted”?
- mlthoughts2018 6y agoMaximum memory per instance (8GB) is an extreme limit. Disk and CPU limits per container instance are also quite bad. And, laughably, for any workload just a bit out of reach for Cloud Run, GCP docs immediately recommend switching to GKE (and even Anthos). Imagine having a high RAM workload that is just a simple RPC service. Many (probably most) machine learning services fit this model. Many routine ML models require more than 8GB RAM just to load the model, bit it’s a good use case for serverless non-lambda infra because it runs out of a very unique Docker image and does nothing but serve stateless model predictions. Needing to bring in all the machinery of GKE or pay out the nose for Anthos just because you need exactly the same operational model as Cloud Run just with high RAM or CPU is a really poor customer experience that feels deliberately set up to push you towards more expensive Kubernetes products.
- infinitone 6y agoThis list is biased, its missing Azure products like Azure Data Explorer, of which AWS/GCP has no alternative (afaik).
- Clewza313 6y ago> This table lists generally available Google Cloud services and maps them to similar offerings in Amazon Web Services (AWS) and Microsoft Azure.
- infinitone 6y agoThe title of this post implies otherwise: Compare AWS and Azure Services to Google Cloud
- resonantjacket5 6y agoCan you not use Bigquery or Aws Redshift? On the microsoft blog posts it seems Azure Data Explorer is more price efficient, though I don't quite understand besides that is it doing something special compared to microsoft's existing offerings?
- cocoland2 6y agoADX is an extremely good timeseries data store. Integrates very easily without hassles into EventHub , Blobstore etc, and also has a very intuitive query language. (Though we could say AWS product integrate with Kinesis / S3 into RedShift). Needless to say a lot of nice features like Geo queries , extremely good support make it really good! Azure was not as good as GCP in terms of data offerings , but with ADX and CosmosDB etc is really getting par with other clouds really well. Coupled with strong Azure IoT , these data products may be a real winner
- FridgeSeal 6y agoYeah but...then I’d have to use azure. The last time I was subjected to azure, I wanted to drive a stake through my head out of sheer frustration. Curious to know about your experience with Cosmos though, when I last looked it was eye wateringly expensive and reports were that performance was...slow at best.
- preommr 6y agoCompetition is always better and welcomed. But I really don't understand what edge google offers other products. If anything, I am always really wary about google and their products. People might say that enterprise services are different, and it's different from free services where if you're not paying you can't expect anything, but there's been paid services by google that have been absolutely terrible like stadia. There's something wrong with Google as a company that I can't think of much that they've done recently that seems solid. There's a reason why managers get paid high salaries, because it starts at the top and flows down. At the very least the marketing for gcp could make it clearer what exactly it's offering that's better: price, ease of management, etc. Because nobody is going to get fired for choosing AWS so there has to be a real clear incentive other than some small technical improvements that don't matter at scale.
- franklyt 6y agoStadia is a huge project, backed by google. I think it has “canary in the coal mine” features. It does want to be an enterprise service, eventually.
- NDizzle 6y agoWe'll see how it goes with Stadia. I think it's a fairly terrible product. Google doesn't keep things like it alive for very long.
- pkulak 6y agoStadia is the best streaming game service there is. People just don't want that product.
- FridgeSeal 6y agoIt’s not significantly better than something like rain way, which at least has the courtesy to plug in to your pre-existing games library.
- plasma 6y agoMy personal experience with Azure/AWS is that sometimes the products sound the same but there are painful caveats. For example, Azure Event Hubs and AWS Kinesis both say you can pick a shard key (eg CustomerId) in your messages to have processing order for each customer. However, Azure Event Hubs notes (and my experience was that) using this feature is subject to downtime because each shard is not highly available so you can't really use it as the first step, but it is reliable on Amazon.
- arapatzanadhih 6y agoIt's true, no two products are ever exactly equivalent. And also you might like a specific product, but avoid using it because you don't like the platform it is part of.
- ctchan 6y agoAfter installing the GCP CLI tool, I keep having this nagging concern that it would be used to track me for advertising purposes.
- marceldegraaf 6y agoThere's a configuration option to disable that, as per Google's documentation: https://cloud.google.com/sdk/usage-statistics https://cloud.google.com/sdk/usage-statistics
- cocoland2 6y agoShould be more opt in rather than opt out. I know some Azure libraries do something similar , but with google , i do not want advertisements on youtube about "demand of AI engineers and self driving cars" because i use gcloud CLI :)
- gcbirzan 6y ago> Unless you opt-in during Google Cloud SDK installation, Cloud SDK software does not collect usage statistics It is opt in.
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- Rantenki 6y agoEvery time I am tempted to use Google Cloud, I wander over to https://killedbygoogle.com/ https://killedbygoogle.com/ and regain my senses. I am not saying that Google is going to kill core product offerings like K8S... what I am saying is that they lack focus, and change direction without regard for their customers. That, coupled with their famously bad support means that I can't sleep at night with the confidence that I can build a complex product on top of their offering. I'll always be worrying that I have to rip out or re-architect large parts of my code to deal with their lack of product stability.
- pkulak 6y agoOh just get your Google account shut down with zero warning and loose everything forever.
- sprite 6y agoThis is and the lack of human support is the reason I w ill never host anything with Google ever.
- marceldegraaf 6y agoWhile I understand the sentiment there is actually human support available on Google Cloud Platform, and there are contracts and SLAs for service availability and support. Also, as part of Google Cloud for Startups we were assigned a local (as in: operating in our country) account manager that periodically checks in to see how we're doing and connects us to Google's partners where applicable. We're actually very happy with Google Cloud Platform, and have been for the past ~3 years.
- alwayshasbeen 6y agoFor me it would still be questionable how quickly they react when some of their algorithms wrongly classify one of the applications I host as malicious. And given how easy it is to e.g. trick the Youtube algorithm to believe a video is hot using fake engagement, I very much dislike the worldview they have that algorithms can solve everything in 2021.
- ttrbls 6y agoAbout 8 years ago I migrated the company's infrastructure to AWS. About 5 years ago I built out a real-time Android app and decided it would make total sense to use Google Cloud services. I regret that move even today. GCS services are unreliable w/many limitations, let's not even talk about UX/UI. AWS is not all peaches and cream either, they launch new services all the time (which are not so well developed ie. IOT / pubSub /) but their core services are solid (S3/CF/SQS/SNS)
- nocommandline 6y agoWhen I first started dabbling into trying to do something on my own, Google App Engine (GAE) seemed the easiest to understand and get off the ground. And the fact that everything 'just worked' and didn't require setting up stuff was awesome in my opinion. GAE Launcher was the cherry on the cake which is why it was such a bummer when they deprecated it (and this led to my current side project - https://nocommandline.com https://nocommandline.com - which is a replacement for GAE Launcher). I was initially worried GAE wouldn't survive but finding out that Khan Academy is hosted on GAE [1] gave me confidence of its longevity. I once tried looking at AWS and it took me awhile to figure out they had a PaaS and trying to set it up essentially gave me a headache (keep in mind that I'm not a 9-5 programmer). 1. https://cloud.google.com/customers/khan-academy https://cloud.google.com/customers/khan-academy
- sneak 6y agoIt astounds me to this day that AWS doesn't have a heroku-style "five clicks to have a github repo deploying at a url" PaaS offerring. Beanstalk ain't it, and they cloned DO's "create a VM wizard" (Lightsail) but still no simple GitHub oauth webhook build/deploy. PaaS is such a great and convenient model. It seems a major oversight to me on AWS's part.
- jbub 6y agoWhat would be the motivation to publish such a page on the Google side ?
- killingtime74 6y agoThey are encouraging switching?
- jbub 6y agoBut they still advertise aws and azure a bit right. Isnt there a risk of driving google customers to aws or azure ?
- alwayshasbeen 6y agoWhy should I trust Google to compare GCP, AWS, Azure? If I really want to compare services, I would do it on my own, look for independent websites or pay an independent company to does it for me.
- moontear 6y agoTo be fair this is not a comparison, but rather showing equivalent products with no qualitative rating of the other companies’ product. Therefore I think this is a good Ressource albeit not a comparison.
- alwayshasbeen 6y agoIn a lot of rows they claim "No equivalent" available. If a company tells me that there is no competitor equivalent for one of their products, I would say thank you and resesrch on my own.
- runeks 6y agoI use GCP for hobby projects because it’s simpler than AWS, has a better GUI and better documentation. For a commercial project I would probably go with AWS, since I’ve heard a lot of horror stories about GCP support. I’ve been scared away from Azure after using it for a couple of courses at university. It just seemed half-baked: lots of GUI glitches/bugs (e.g. reliably needing to press a button exactly twice). It just seemed like one of those Microsoft products that only exist because the best product in the category isn’t owned by Microsoft already.
- swebs 6y agoI've had good experience with Linode for my personal projects. They have a lot of cloud products nowadays like S3 buckets, so its no longer just VPSs.
- reasonabl_human 6y agoAzure by far has the best customer support, great for commercial use
- ingvay7 6y agoIve used Azure and AWS in a couple of large organizations (mulit-million $ cloud contracts) and the Azure commitment for customer success is a big differentiator. Ive literally had Azure engineers as an extension of my team (free of cost offered by azure as part of customer success teams) so much so that they start blending into the team. The Azure products have steadily gotten better (ADB, Azure SQL, Functions etc) over the years (with a few duds as expected). AWS - it didnt matter how big we were, we still got the feeling they never really leant in or they had "more important" stuff to focus on than customer success. All the POCs/side projects we have done on GCP - it has always felt like something built by a bunch of seriously talented technologists FOR technologists. Support seemed a distant entity just like most google products - that has led to significant nervousness at the top leadership to invest in a product that may not be Google's highest priority.
- mlthoughts2018 6y agoGCP has vastly worse documentation than AWS unfortunately.
- 02020202 6y agoisn't azure the only cloud provider that hasn't censored any of its clients, by disconnecting their services, yet?
- dustinmoris 6y agoPersonally my experience with the Google Cloud has been the best, but I think if one goes with AWS or GCP they'll be fine either way. Just stay away from Azure. If death by a thousand needles was ever true then it must be for Azure. The hidden caveats, pain points, down times, subtle bugs, Portal issues, confusing documentation pages, and so on are a HUUUUUGE time sink. Honestly the cost of Azure is irrelevant when you spend 5x more expensive developer time in getting simple stuff working. Don't say I haven't warned you...
- chalice 6y agoOK https://cloudmoji.com https://cloudmoji.com
- anang 6y agoAzure has absolutely the worst interface in my opinion, but I’ve found that for a lot of my clients them already having an azure account (via AD) outweighs pretty much anything else. I think Microsoft know this and know they come a long way without having to compete.
- CactusOnFire 6y agoHonestly, I liked Azure's web UI better than AWS's. It felt easier to navigate from one service to another.
- psing 6y agoAll 3 clouds have their warts and the grass will always seem greener once you pick one. Hard to go against AWS based on size and head start though...
- brodouevencode 6y agoThere's a lot of truth in this. For large organizations though having a multi-cloud strategy from the start is a smart thing to do. We got hit pretty hard from the AWS outages last fall, so our previous 'all in on AWS' approach has been replaced with 'mostly AWS but let's look at GCP and Azure'. We spend millions per month in AWS and the incident last fall broke trust.
- e12e 6y agoI'd like to see columns for "avg time to talk to a human(support)" and "recourse on account deletion due to perceived policy violation". I'm not sure how azure and aws score - but better than Google? [ed: as a side note - I've yet to try and get support from azure or aws (we use both) - but we did get prompt reply/action from digital ocean the few times we've needed to reach out]
- wlpu 6y agoI really would not consider Dataproc to provide the equivalent capability of AWS Batch. It's quite painful how many of GCP's services rely on GKE. Ultimately I'd like to see more services like Cloud Run from GCP.