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If you go to vesselfinder you can follow the drama in real-time! Seems it's still stuck: https://www.vesselfinder.com/?imo=9811000 https://www.vesselfinder.com/
by capableweb 6y ago
If you go to vesselfinder you can follow the drama in real-time! Seems it's still stuck: https://www.vesselfinder.com/?imo=9811000 https://www.vesselfinder.com/?imo=9811000
- fsagx 6y agoCool. It even shows the 7 tugs trying to help.
- tim333 6y agoI was looking up how hard can a tug tug. Wikipedia seems to imply 65 tons is normal.
- zests 6y agoThis link is extremely interesting. Keep zooming out all the way if you haven't already.
- oliv__ 6y agoWow. The magnitude of global trade is insane!
- yrro 6y agoAs is the environmental harm
- arnaudsm 6y agoSuper-ships emit ~5g_Co2/Ton/km on average[1], while railway is 2-35g, air transport is 700-3000g and truck transport is 100-2000g. Surprisingly, the bigger the boat the more effective. We tend to have a bias against larger machines, but often they can be the cleanest in proportion. [1] https://www.ademe.fr/sites/default/files/assets/documents/86275_7715-guide-information-co2-transporteurs.pdf#page=80 https://www.ademe.fr/sites/default/files/assets/documents/86...
- beaconstudios 6y agoI would assume that were the case because if not, presumably it would be cheaper to transport the cargo in multiple smaller ships! Assuming that pollution primarily caused by fuel usage of course.
- foepys 6y agoIsn't the problem that ships are burning heavy oil instead of diesel or similar? CO2 isn't the main worry afaik, it's the rest that gets blasted unfiltered into the atmosphere and the left over sludge that gets illegally dumped into the sea.
- azepoi 6y agoit's not perfect but it's gotten better apparently. 170 countries have signed a treaty significantly reducing the fuel sulphur content. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MARPOL_73/78#IMO_2020 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MARPOL_73/78#IMO_2020 https://www.imo.org/fr/MediaCentre/HotTopics/Pages/Sulphur-2020.aspx https://www.imo.org/fr/MediaCentre/HotTopics/Pages/Sulphur-2... https://www.imo.org/en/MediaCentre/PressBriefings/pages/02-IMO-2020.aspx https://www.imo.org/en/MediaCentre/PressBriefings/pages/02-I... The upper limit of the sulphur content of ships' fuel oil was reduced to 0.5% (from 3.5% previously) - under the so-called "IMO 2020" regulation prescribed in the MARPOL Convention. This significantly reduces the amount of sulphur oxide emanating from ships.
- epja 6y agoIronically, a reduction in sulfur emitted from these ships may actually accelerate global warming: https://www.technologyreview.com/2018/01/22/67402/were-about-to-kill-a-massive-accidental-experiment-in-halting-global-warming/ https://www.technologyreview.com/2018/01/22/67402/were-about...
- lmm 6y agoBurning that kind of fuel near populated areas is a problem, so long-distance shipping is probably the best use for it.
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- konjin 6y agoIt's a lot quieter than it used to be. Even worse for planes on flight radar 24.
- jhugo 6y agoMaritime traffic dropped significantly during mid-2020 but has largely recovered. For example, Singapore's stats for Feb 2021 are basically flat year-on-year for container throughput.
- mcv 6y agoThe fun thing is that it's not just sea trade, but also internal rivers. Checkout all the ships between Rotterdam and the Ruhr Area, for example.
- sabas_ge 6y agoThanks to the mandatory AIS system onboard https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Automatic_identification_system https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Automatic_identification_syste...
- cycomanic 6y agoApparently 30% of all container traffic go through the Suez canal. Around 51 ships per day.
- HenryKissinger 6y agoHow much longer would it take to go around Africa to Gibraltar?
- lb1lf 6y agoThe increase in distance would be approx. 6,000Nm (assuming they arrived at the entrance to the Red Sea before having to change course). 6000Nm and, say, 25 knots (probably a bit on the high side, but not by much) should add 240 hours of steaming or 10 days to the voyage. (This will be somewhat offset by the lower speed through the channel, waiting times &c - I've no idea how long a typical Suez transit is.)
- restalis 6y ago"I've no idea how long a typical Suez transit is." For yachts it is (supposed to be) two days. It's one day to Ismailia on either way and then one for the rest. (The paperwork however, may take longer, but can be arranged in advance.) See more at https://www.noonsite.com/report/suez-canal-transit-information/ https://www.noonsite.com/report/suez-canal-transit-informati...
- gala8y 6y agowalrus01 linked a video here yesterday [0] of a ship transit. For a ship it takes 11 to 16 hours, including stop on Great Bitter Lake in the middle of the canal. [0] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26561816 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26561816
- larzang 6y ago8 days, but the bigger problem is that increases the expected sea states encountered by several levels. Huge container ships don't like that.
- zaphirplane 6y ago“If” applies here nicely, website isn’t responding for me
- minitoar 6y agomarinetraffic.com is a good alt
- harry8 6y agoHad more luck with this one, hug of death? https://www.marinetraffic.com/en/ais/home/shipid:5630138/zoom:10 https://www.marinetraffic.com/en/ais/home/shipid:5630138/zoo...
- airhead969 6y agoStill stuck. 6 tugs are on it and a pleasure craft, possibly used to direct operations or some idiot taking pictures.
- serf 6y ago>and a pleasure craft I see that labeling too, but the Tahia Misr2 is a tug, sister to the Tahia Misr1. I'm not sure why it's displaying as a pleasure craft.
- andrewinardeer 6y agoMaybe it is enjoying itself?
- airhead969 6y agoI don't want to know, do I? Edit: The phrase "pleasure craft" is a triple entendre, and possibly a quadruple.
- airhead969 6y agoAh thanks. I bet it's a data sanitization or registration foul-up. It's Egypt, after all, where things don't always work honestly or consistently.
- callesgg 6y agoYou fill in the AIS data fields yourself, my experience is that it is not uncomon to see the ”less important” AIS data Fields beeing wrong.
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- yreg 6y agoHow does it look like normally? I guess full of ships anyway?
- hef19898 6y agoFond memories. I once tracked a ship carrying a couple of containers that were urgently needed driving in circles in the English Channel for two weeks.
- art0rz 6y agoMy partner and I shipped our furniture from the US to Europe for an international move. We were tracking the ship going back and forth between Hamburg and Copenhagen for weeks. Turns out the moving company gave us the wrong ship number, and our stuff had been waiting for us in the destination port.
- Shivetya 6y agoSo how long before they start rerouting, for ships that can make that passage South of the horn? Does anyone know the transit time to pass through the canal versus going around the South Africa route?
- jhayward 6y agoThe article on gCaptain said that shippers would begin re-routes after 24 hours of closure, which was about 6:00 UTC today.
- nothis 6y agoConsidering how niche it is, that's a super snappy and well designed site! EDIT: Just saw they had outages, but I guess nobody ever expected it to be trending on twitter. Works fine for me.
- bradj 6y agoNiche, but very important to participants in the market. There is a growing industry of cargo and vessel tracking SaaS solutions (including https://Vortexa.com https://Vortexa.com)