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> They basically admitted that they don’t like me. They’ve banned me for nothing else than my political views. This is typical discrimination. Considering I hav
by notRobot 6y ago
> They basically admitted that they don’t like me. They’ve banned me for nothing else than my political views. This is typical discrimination. Considering I have no one to appeal to except them, it’s concerning, since they control the actual fucking center of the internet.
Next-level deplatforming. From a non-profit. That essential controls the internet. Yay.
- worldofmatthew 6y agoTime for anti-trust lawsuits.
- joncrane 6y agoIn what jurisdiction(s)?
- prepend 6y agoHis home jurisdiction, I suppose. Comically, this is what the riaa did with making claims against Sunde based on US laws and applying them to Sweden. I think ICANN is a US corporation, but if they are impacting a Swedish company I’m sure there’s some local law that can be used.
- worldofmatthew 6y agoUS law is default but ICANN connection to the UN could allow someone to sue in any UN registered country. Though, I am not an expert on law.
- prepend 6y agoI thought ICANN has no connection to the UN. It used to have a connection to the US department of commerce but that ended years ago.
- GoblinSlayer 6y agoLos Angeles.
- mr_toad 6y agoDoesn’t work when the monopoly is created by the government.
- threatofrain 6y ago[deleted]
- progre 6y agoHe is not wanted by interpol as he was arrested in 2014 and has served his time in Swedish prison. He was asked if he was convicted of fraud which he was not.
- dvdplm 6y ago> he concealed criminal history. But he didn't. The box on the form said "Have you been convicted for fraud?". He hasn't, so he didn't check the box. Maybe the ICANN-we-dont-want-to-police-the-internet-but-then-we-do-it-anyway-people need more boxes on their forms.
- GoblinSlayer 6y agoIs it legal to discriminate based on past convictions? What if a parent was convicted, can it be inherited?
- feanaro 6y agoIt shouldn't be, but it appears to be almost a core value in some cultures.
- Mauricebranagh 6y agoIts is for industries that require trust and for company directors.
- selfsimilar 6y agoAsk an Australian.
- colejohnson66 6y agoIn the US, yes. “Convicted felon” is not a protected class. Many businesses ask during your application or hiring process if you’ve ever been “convicted of a felony”. The idea is: “we don’t want a thief manning the cash registers!” There’s also the general misconception that “if you’re in, or were in, prison, it’s because you’re a bad person.” But the problem is: they served their debt to society (jail), and innocent people are jailed all the time. If they were still a threat to society after 5 years or whatever, then they shouldn’t’ve been sentenced to just 5 years. And with innocent people being convicted, the bar to get it fixed is very high because (in some states), you have to not only prove you’re innocence, but that the prosecution messed up (such as withholding evidence). And don’t forget about prosecutorial immunity! And if it is fixed, how do you answer that question? Yes, you were convicted, but it’s not on your record because you proved your innocence. Yes? No? Answer yes, and you’re denied. Answer no, and when they find out about it, you’re fired, and can only hope your bosses will fight for you and win. It’s sad really.
- op00to 6y agoHow is not being able to be a domain registrar deplatforming?
- slickrick216 6y agoJust be your own registrar....... oh.
- thatguy0900 6y agoHow is it not deplatforming when you campaign to get registrars to deplatform people and then also say they can't be a registrar themselves
- gadders 6y agoNo way, man. This isn't cancel culture. This is just a non-profit exercising their rights. If he doesn't like it, all he has to do is create his own internet and a procedure for assigning DNS names and IP addresses and then get the whole world to switch over to it. /s
- zpeti 6y agoExactly. It's a free market. Come on.
- FpUser 6y agoThere is no free market. Just copyrights / patents alone show that. If I had invented something or way more likely came up with something obvious I should not be looking over my shoulder and waiting for some corporation to sue me for rounded corners or button placed on the form. Suddenly those big corps run crying to their daddy for protection.
- zoobab 6y agohttps://twitter.com/Diskonnekt_/status/1354805885348974605 https://twitter.com/Diskonnekt_/status/1354805885348974605
- yunesj 6y agoOr use one of the many alternative DNS that the market already created to solve this problem? Continuously fixing ICANN’s decisions keeps alternatives from catching on.
- derangedHorse 6y agoAlternatives are meaningless unless they can get mainstream adoption from the software makers of the majority.
- armada651 6y agoWhen you're a state-sponsored monopoly the rules are a bit different whether you're a private entity or not. So it'll be interesting to see how this plays out. (I know ICANN is not currently being sponsored by the US government anymore, but they were given their monopoly that way)
- donmcronald 6y ago> Next-level deplatforming. From a non-profit. That essential controls the internet. Yay. And it’s pretty rich coming from ICANN after they eliminated .org price caps (coincidentally) before their associates tried to usurp the registry for private equity interests. It’s almost funny to see these multi billion dollar grifters disparaging someone for theft (copyright infringement).
- amelius 6y agoI wonder what a decentralized version of DNS would look like.
- bitxbitxbitcoin 6y agoConsider checking out HNS.[0] [0] https://www.handshake.org https://www.handshake.org
- Forbo 6y agoOr Namecoin, or Blockstack, or OpenAlias, or ENS, or....
- GoblinSlayer 6y agoThat's tor.
- Forbo 6y agoTor's onion addresses aren't human-meaningful. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zooko%27s_triangle https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zooko%27s_triangle
- GoblinSlayer 6y agoPeople don't type addresses, they open google, type "facebook" there and click the first link. Phishing often relies on similarity between different domain names. Switching to tor domains will remove assumption of reliability of domain name reading.
- dna_polymerase 6y agoAnd replaces it with what exactly? A trusted source of truth? Meaning Google? Haha.
- hertzrat 6y agoIt will be harder to verify whether an address is real or fake. You would have to trust the search engines. Offloading the responsibility to google basically makes google the DNS provider
- jbluepolarbear 6y agoI don’t see the problem. He has shown over many years that he isn’t someone to be trusted with this type of accreditation. His past convictions aside, he has shown that breaking the rules is his normalcy. He is still active with many members that still coordinate with illegal activities. Yes ICANN has too much power, but I understand and respect their rejecting Sunde.
- kyboren 6y ago> He has shown over many years that he isn’t someone to be trusted with this type of accreditation. His past convictions aside, he has shown that breaking the rules is his normalcy. Is the URL bar lying to me? Am I actually on Bootlicker News, where hackers are not to be trusted, overly-powerful and unaccountable institutions get "understand[ing] and respect", and rulebreaking is grounds for excommunication? You don't see the problem because you are the problem.
- edrxty 6y agoI accept my inevitable gray punishment for negative meta discussion but it's worth stating, HN is overwhelmingly corporatist and authoritarian these days.
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- willhinsa 6y agoSomewhat orthogonal to this discussion, but I'm so glad Urbit is gaining steam every day.
- jbluepolarbear 6y agoThe internet founded by the crazy far-right dude that believes in the Dark Enlightenment? I’ll pass.
- Vecr 6y ago
- c7DJTLrn 6y agoNever heard of a non-profit that takes bribes.
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- sleepyhead 6y ago“Not only that, but they’re also upset I was wanted by Interpol.” Deplatforming?