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They hired actual fucking Pinkertons, which says enough about how aggressive they are. The gloves have been off for a while now.
by staticautomatic 6y ago
They hired actual fucking Pinkertons, which says enough about how aggressive they are. The gloves have been off for a while now.
- secfirstmd 6y agoPinkerton are the corporate security company of choice for a lot of organisations...including Facebook
- harry8 6y agoThings that don't make me feel better about something: "No it's actually ok, facebook also does it."
- secfirstmd 6y agoI most definitely wasn't endorsing them. I know their historical reputation. I was just suggesting it's interesting that FB use them also.
- lovegoblin 6y agoAnd one with a long, long history of violent union busting.
- doggodaddo78 6y agoYou could use to read some history books.
- tharkun__ 6y agoI wonder why multiple people read his comment as pro Pinkertons (pro AMZN etc.) I read it as "Yep and Amazon are not the only large company that use them, so watch out! If Facebook employees ever want to unionize, Pinkertons might/will be sent after them too".
- colejohnson66 6y agoPeople read what they want to hear. I’ve posted comments that make it clear I support stuff, but because I (essentially) argued devil’s advocate, I was downvoted. I can only assume it’s because I’m supposedly showing sympathy to the other side (even if I’m not).
- noxer 6y agoThe HN bubble is real and as biased as any other internet community.
- Shish2k 6y agoTo somebody who believes in a black and white “with us or against us” world, “sympathy" and “support” are the same thing :(
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- doggodaddo78 6y agoUgh. Yes, that sucks. Benefit of the doubt, patience/curiosity to understand, and fair view are rare as supermodels with PhD's flying jet aircraft these days. Up/down vote I think is too ambiguous: there ought to be an agree/disagree metric and a relevant-interesting/irrelevant-uninteresting one too. Maybe even get rid of displayed karma and simply vote on multiple properties (insightful, agreed, brave, well-reasoned, informative, primary source anecdote)
- kd0amg 6y ago> I wonder why multiple people read his comment as pro Pinkertons (pro AMZN etc.) Because "this is common practice" is often used as an argument that "this is reasonable."
- secfirstmd 6y agoThe comment was made to highlight that Pinkerton are working with Facebook (amongst others) thus Facebook may also be concerned about union organising. So watch out if you are trying. Esp with Pinkertons past record.
- mmmBacon 6y agoPerhaps you are unaware that the Pinkertons have a long history of union busting behavior. The most infamous being their involvement in the 1892 Homestead Steel Strike. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homestead_strike https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homestead_strike
- secfirstmd 6y agoThanks I've spent more than a decade working with civil society groups including union organising. The comment was made to highlight that Pinkerton are working with Facebook (amongst others) thus Facebook may also be concerned about union organising. Esp with Pinkertons past record.
- anotherfish 6y agoLove how all these people rushed to tell you who Pinkerton are and what they do.
- anotherfish 6y agoHelpful. Like savants.
- whoknew1122 6y agoPinkerton is the union-busting company of choice for Amazon. Amazon has its own very expansive security apparatus.
- eyelidlessness 6y agoIn case you’re not aware, Pinkerton was a prominent security company which gained a reputation for literally murdering labor organizers. For context.
- secfirstmd 6y agoThanks I've spent more than a decade working with civil society groups including labour organising ones. The comment was made to highlight that Pinkerton are working with Facebook (amongst others) thus Facebook may also be concerned about union organising. Esp with Pinkertons past record.
- devenvdev 6y agoI think moderators should have responded to the replies here, this is why "assume good intent" or however it's called is in HN rules.
- secfirstmd 6y agoYes that's what I meant. Unfort people take it another way.
- CuriouslyC 6y agoThere are a lot of security companies that have a less storied past than Pinkerton that they could have chosen, particularly in the area of unions.