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you want to cite your sources on this one, buddy?

jimbob45 6y ago
He’s right that Hillary tried to ban violent video games but it was long before her election and there’s no evidence to suggest it had any bearing whatsoever on the election.
- Alex3917 6y ago
  Why do you think 4chan users were spending all their free time making pro-Trump and anti-Clinton memes? The GTA ban was one of the main things Clinton did to make that demographic hate her.
  - ThisIsTheWay 6y ago
    How much of the US voter base is paying attention to 4chan users? My assumption is basically none.
    - Alex3917 6y ago
      A significant percentage of the political content on Facebook, Reddit, and elsewhere is coming directly from 4chan.
      - Supermancho 6y ago
        Classic paranoia and misinformation has infected your worldview.
        Alex3917 6y ago
        So you're saying the pepe memes didn't originate from 4chan? There were an enormous amount of those on facebook and reddit.
      - ThisIsTheWay 6y ago
        What is a significant percentage? And how much influence does Facebook and Reddit have on voting?
    - koolba 6y ago
      Memes have to start somewhere.
  - acdha 6y ago
    I wonder how targeted that was - I remember a ton of crap surfacing from that particular cesspool m but never saw this one. It seemed a lot more like Gamergate just kept going and added the more mainstream conspiracy theories. I’d also be very careful about taking anything they say at face value. The slogans change but the targets remain consistent.
- coding123 6y ago
  There was other stuff she did in the past that had no relevance to the election that I think turned off a lot of voters in 2016, whether that specific issue was something important to people, I'm guessing at least a few. My specific indifference to her was her connection to Monsanto, the company.
WillPostForFood 6y ago
I don't think it played any part in her loss to Trump, but Clinton did push for video game legislation while a Senator, in response to the GTA "Hot Coffee" controversy. The United States Family Entertainment Protection Act (FEPA) was a bill introduced by Senator Hillary Clinton (D-NY), and co-sponsored by Senators Joe Lieberman (D-CT), Tim Johnson (D-SD) and Evan Bayh (D-IN) on November 29, 2005. The bill called for a federal mandate enforcement of the Entertainment Software Rating Board (ESRB) ratings system for video games in order to protect children from inappropriate content. The FEPA would have imposed fines of US$1000 or 100 hours of community service for a first time offense of selling a "Mature" or "Adult-Only" rated video game to a minor, and $5000 or 500 hours for each subsequent offense. The bill also called for a FTC investigation into the ESRB to ascertain whether they have been properly rating games. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Family_Entertainment_Protection_Act https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Family_Entertainment_Protectio...
genericone 6y ago
Not the guy, but this was a fairly simple G search for "hillary banning gta" leading to: https://www.cbsnews.com/news/senator-clinton-on-violent-games/ https://www.cbsnews.com/news/senator-clinton-on-violent-game... where she tries to ban sales to children. And the 'buddy' at the end was pretty condescending for not having done a fairly simple search.
- outworlder 6y ago
  And a fairly simple read of the link will indicate that what's being discussed is the enforcement of the ESRB ratings so kids get age-appropriate material. Not the banning of video games.
  - rtrdea 6y ago
    Why should the government decide what's age appropriate?
    - outworlder 6y ago
      A fair question generally. But also one that's not very relevant to this thread. There are already age restrictions on many activities anyway and proponents on both sides. The point was that the parent poster was talking about a full ban on games and posted an example which did not support the assertion.
      - Alex3917 6y ago
        > The point was that the parent poster was talking about a full ban on games and posted an example which did not support the assertion. It was basically a full ban on video games for anyone under 18. IIRC even games like Super Mario Bros. and PAC-MAN could have been banned for violence under the proposed standard.
        zepto 6y ago
        How would PAC-MAN be considered violent? Ghosts are by definition, already dead. I could see it being banned for encouraging bulimia, or the use of psychedelic pills, but violence is not so obvious.

He’s right that Hillary tried to ban violent video games but it was long before her election and there’s no evidence to suggest it had any bearing whatsoever on the election.

Alex3917 6y ago
Why do you think 4chan users were spending all their free time making pro-Trump and anti-Clinton memes? The GTA ban was one of the main things Clinton did to make that demographic hate her.
- ThisIsTheWay 6y ago
  How much of the US voter base is paying attention to 4chan users? My assumption is basically none.
  - Alex3917 6y ago
    A significant percentage of the political content on Facebook, Reddit, and elsewhere is coming directly from 4chan.
    - Supermancho 6y ago
      Classic paranoia and misinformation has infected your worldview.
      - Alex3917 6y ago
        So you're saying the pepe memes didn't originate from 4chan? There were an enormous amount of those on facebook and reddit.
    - ThisIsTheWay 6y ago
      What is a significant percentage? And how much influence does Facebook and Reddit have on voting?
  - koolba 6y ago
    Memes have to start somewhere.
- acdha 6y ago
  I wonder how targeted that was - I remember a ton of crap surfacing from that particular cesspool m but never saw this one. It seemed a lot more like Gamergate just kept going and added the more mainstream conspiracy theories. I’d also be very careful about taking anything they say at face value. The slogans change but the targets remain consistent.
coding123 6y ago
There was other stuff she did in the past that had no relevance to the election that I think turned off a lot of voters in 2016, whether that specific issue was something important to people, I'm guessing at least a few. My specific indifference to her was her connection to Monsanto, the company.

WillPostForFood 6y ago

I don't think it played any part in her loss to Trump, but Clinton did push for video game legislation while a Senator, in response to the GTA "Hot Coffee" controversy. The United States Family Entertainment Protection Act (FEPA) was a bill introduced by Senator Hillary Clinton (D-NY), and co-sponsored by Senators Joe Lieberman (D-CT), Tim Johnson (D-SD) and Evan Bayh (D-IN) on November 29, 2005. The bill called for a federal mandate enforcement of the Entertainment Software Rating Board (ESRB) ratings system for video games in order to protect children from inappropriate content. The FEPA would have imposed fines of US$1000 or 100 hours of community service for a first time offense of selling a "Mature" or "Adult-Only" rated video game to a minor, and $5000 or 500 hours for each subsequent offense. The bill also called for a FTC investigation into the ESRB to ascertain whether they have been properly rating games. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Family_Entertainment_Protection_Act https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Family_Entertainment_Protectio...

genericone 6y ago

Not the guy, but this was a fairly simple G search for "hillary banning gta" leading to: https://www.cbsnews.com/news/senator-clinton-on-violent-games/ https://www.cbsnews.com/news/senator-clinton-on-violent-game... where she tries to ban sales to children. And the 'buddy' at the end was pretty condescending for not having done a fairly simple search.

outworlder 6y ago
And a fairly simple read of the link will indicate that what's being discussed is the enforcement of the ESRB ratings so kids get age-appropriate material. Not the banning of video games.
- rtrdea 6y ago
  Why should the government decide what's age appropriate?
  - outworlder 6y ago
    A fair question generally. But also one that's not very relevant to this thread. There are already age restrictions on many activities anyway and proponents on both sides. The point was that the parent poster was talking about a full ban on games and posted an example which did not support the assertion.
    - Alex3917 6y ago
      > The point was that the parent poster was talking about a full ban on games and posted an example which did not support the assertion. It was basically a full ban on video games for anyone under 18. IIRC even games like Super Mario Bros. and PAC-MAN could have been banned for violence under the proposed standard.
      - zepto 6y ago
        How would PAC-MAN be considered violent? Ghosts are by definition, already dead. I could see it being banned for encouraging bulimia, or the use of psychedelic pills, but violence is not so obvious.