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'nationalism' is typically distinguished from patriotism; the latter is a love of country -- the former is the conviction that one's country is better than othe

'nationalism' is typically distinguished from patriotism; the latter is a love of country -- the former is the conviction that one's country is better than other countries, on the basis of a rank tribalism.

99_00 6y ago
From wikipedia: Nationalism is an idea and movement that promotes the interests of a particular nation (as in a group of people),[1] especially with the aim of gaining and maintaining the nation's sovereignty (self-governance) over its homeland. Nationalism holds that each nation should govern itself, free from outside interference (self-determination), that a nation is a natural and ideal basis for a polity[2] and that the nation is the only rightful source of political power (popular sovereignty).[1][3] It further aims to build and maintain a single national identity, based on shared social characteristics of culture, ethnicity, geographic location, language, politics (or the government), religion, traditions and belief in a shared singular history,[4][5] and to promote national unity or solidarity.[1] Nationalism seeks to preserve and foster a nation's traditional cultures and cultural revivals have been associated with nationalist movements.[6] It also encourages pride in national achievements and is closely linked to patriotism.[7][8][page needed] Nationalism is often combined with other ideologies such as conservatism (national conservatism) or socialism (left-wing nationalism).[2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nationalism https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nationalism
sremani 6y ago
In the mother of multicultural societies - Nationalism is the fine thread that holds the thing together. India without Indian-Nationalism is warring states inviting new colonial powers for piece of action. This has been predicament of India since Alexander the Great. Strong borders externally and shallow border internally with rivers flowing in different directions created disparate cultures and population centers. India without Indian Nationalism is Syria on Steroids.. You do not want to go there.
- sgift 6y ago
  Funny, there is a state in Europe which had exactly the same position: We are all individual states, we fight with each other, we are weak, we should be together under strong nationalism, so we aren't victims of others anymore and so on. That country was Germany, which unified in 1871. Two world wars later and we've decided that maybe Nationalism isn't such a great thing. But you do you. Have fun.
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  - sremani 6y ago
    Is Europe a country? Europe and India are different in many ways. Because Indian Nationalism dates back to 323 BC and with Mauryan Empire.
    - saagarjha 6y ago
      > That country was Germany
    - orwin 6y ago
      Nationalism as in nation-state dates back to 323 BC? I would be surprised. I think historian debate if nationalism was born in the 17th or the 18th century, so maybe they are all wrong, but considering how many new, interesting debate are indroduced by Chinese historians (== academics), i doubt the debate wouldn't already have fired if this was a question. At the time, ruling over different culture and languages was a sign of power. Chandragupta's empire included Bengali and people from Deccan, and i think it extended beyond the hindus (Sorry if it the the english term, i'm not fluent enough to read history books in english). I would be VERY surprised if any of those considered themselves as Indian before anything else.
    - higerordermap 6y ago
      For what it's worth, Mauryan empire didn't rule the entire south India, which had different culture. India makes more sense as a subcontinent, not a unified culture. It's a spectrum of cultures.
flipcoder 6y ago
Would most people who call themselves nationalists actually accept this definition?
naruvimama 6y ago
This might be a common misconception, Abhinav Prakash has a nice explanation https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4C-ffQrFunk https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4C-ffQrFunk

99_00 6y ago

From wikipedia: Nationalism is an idea and movement that promotes the interests of a particular nation (as in a group of people),[1] especially with the aim of gaining and maintaining the nation's sovereignty (self-governance) over its homeland. Nationalism holds that each nation should govern itself, free from outside interference (self-determination), that a nation is a natural and ideal basis for a polity[2] and that the nation is the only rightful source of political power (popular sovereignty).[1][3] It further aims to build and maintain a single national identity, based on shared social characteristics of culture, ethnicity, geographic location, language, politics (or the government), religion, traditions and belief in a shared singular history,[4][5] and to promote national unity or solidarity.[1] Nationalism seeks to preserve and foster a nation's traditional cultures and cultural revivals have been associated with nationalist movements.[6] It also encourages pride in national achievements and is closely linked to patriotism.[7][8][page needed] Nationalism is often combined with other ideologies such as conservatism (national conservatism) or socialism (left-wing nationalism).[2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nationalism https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nationalism

sremani 6y ago

In the mother of multicultural societies - Nationalism is the fine thread that holds the thing together. India without Indian-Nationalism is warring states inviting new colonial powers for piece of action. This has been predicament of India since Alexander the Great. Strong borders externally and shallow border internally with rivers flowing in different directions created disparate cultures and population centers. India without Indian Nationalism is Syria on Steroids.. You do not want to go there.

sgift 6y ago
Funny, there is a state in Europe which had exactly the same position: We are all individual states, we fight with each other, we are weak, we should be together under strong nationalism, so we aren't victims of others anymore and so on. That country was Germany, which unified in 1871. Two world wars later and we've decided that maybe Nationalism isn't such a great thing. But you do you. Have fun.
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- sremani 6y ago
  Is Europe a country? Europe and India are different in many ways. Because Indian Nationalism dates back to 323 BC and with Mauryan Empire.
  - saagarjha 6y ago
    > That country was Germany
  - orwin 6y ago
    Nationalism as in nation-state dates back to 323 BC? I would be surprised. I think historian debate if nationalism was born in the 17th or the 18th century, so maybe they are all wrong, but considering how many new, interesting debate are indroduced by Chinese historians (== academics), i doubt the debate wouldn't already have fired if this was a question. At the time, ruling over different culture and languages was a sign of power. Chandragupta's empire included Bengali and people from Deccan, and i think it extended beyond the hindus (Sorry if it the the english term, i'm not fluent enough to read history books in english). I would be VERY surprised if any of those considered themselves as Indian before anything else.
  - higerordermap 6y ago
    For what it's worth, Mauryan empire didn't rule the entire south India, which had different culture. India makes more sense as a subcontinent, not a unified culture. It's a spectrum of cultures.

flipcoder 6y ago

Would most people who call themselves nationalists actually accept this definition?

naruvimama 6y ago

This might be a common misconception, Abhinav Prakash has a nice explanation https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4C-ffQrFunk https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4C-ffQrFunk