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Yeah, I wish there were a way to support just Wikipedia. I don't really care about a lot of Wikimedia Foundation's other pet projects, but the way they phrase t

by umvi 6y ago

Yeah, I wish there were a way to support just Wikipedia. I don't really care about a lot of Wikimedia Foundation's other pet projects, but the way they phrase their banners and emails, you'd think we are always a razor's edge from Wikipedia servers shutting off...

jacobr1 6y ago
And a few wikipedia-like sites: wiktionary and wikidata in particular.
Aunche 6y ago
You can support just Wikipedia by contributing ;) I think that Wikipedia just doesn't need that much money. If people just let them fail their fundraising goals, the core service will likely continue to get the same budget, but they'll cut their pet projects and parties.
- h_anna_h 6y ago
  Sadly this is not what happened with Mozilla.
  - mikepurvis 6y ago
    Isn't it? Mozilla has cut or spun-off basically everything other than Firefox.
    - Macha 6y ago
      The most prominent project on mozilla.org at time of writing is Mozilla VPN. Pocket also gets substantial screen space dedicated: https://www.mozilla.org/en-GB/ https://www.mozilla.org/en-GB/
      - mikepurvis 6y ago
        Fair, though I would argue that those services are much more closely tied to the core experience of Firefox (and in particular the promise of safer, more private internet access) than something like Sunbird ever was.
      - kevin_thibedeau 6y ago
        Pocket generates revenue for Mozilla.
      - sudosysgen 6y ago
        Pocket and Mozilla VPN are prominent because they drive revenue which is useful to limit dependency on Google, thus greatly helping Firefox.
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- 93po 6y ago
  I tried contributing and there are so many entrenched "don't touch my stuff" senior editors or moderators that it's often hard to do much of anything depending on where you are. I gave up after spending 40+ hours attempting to help clean up little known articles of a genre of music only to have 90% of what I did get reversed even though I am very confident it was within wikipedia guidelines. I was also harassed and accused of racism (by the subject of the article) after nominating his article for deletion because it didn't meet notability requirements.
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eitland 6y ago
Same as with me and Mozilla then: I deeply dislike that these four things happens almost simultaneously : - firing the people who create their biggest contributions to the free and open web ab also their main source of income - supporting other efforts all over the place - begging for money from the "community" - while brushing me of in tje comments when I ask about progress on a 4 year old bug
- gggtt 6y ago
  - and the boss paying herself massive salary while Mozilla is dying You can support Servo Project independently now : https://crowdfunding.lfx.linuxfoundation.org/projects/servo https://crowdfunding.lfx.linuxfoundation.org/projects/servo While it doesn't directly contribute to Firefox itself (for now) I think this is worth supporting
  - eitland 6y ago
    > You can support Servo Project independently now : Already do :-) As for her salary, I won't make a point out of that: she has already negotiated orders of magnitude more than that in income to Mozilla.
- andrekandre 6y ago
  i have felt the same many times... i think the "bug in the program" is: donation doesnt give you a vote/ownership. i sort of feel like an interesting experiment might be an idea where donating above a certain amount (say 5 dollars) should give someone "a years ownership" and a vote in major policy decisions for that year, sort of like a consumer cooperative also, in that model, a company couldnt just buy more shares and get more votes (like a stock)... that might be a better model... maybe

by umvi 6y ago

jacobr1 6y ago

And a few wikipedia-like sites: wiktionary and wikidata in particular.

Aunche 6y ago

You can support just Wikipedia by contributing ;) I think that Wikipedia just doesn't need that much money. If people just let them fail their fundraising goals, the core service will likely continue to get the same budget, but they'll cut their pet projects and parties.

h_anna_h 6y ago
Sadly this is not what happened with Mozilla.
- mikepurvis 6y ago
  Isn't it? Mozilla has cut or spun-off basically everything other than Firefox.
  - Macha 6y ago
    The most prominent project on mozilla.org at time of writing is Mozilla VPN. Pocket also gets substantial screen space dedicated: https://www.mozilla.org/en-GB/ https://www.mozilla.org/en-GB/
    - mikepurvis 6y ago
      Fair, though I would argue that those services are much more closely tied to the core experience of Firefox (and in particular the promise of safer, more private internet access) than something like Sunbird ever was.
    - kevin_thibedeau 6y ago
      Pocket generates revenue for Mozilla.
    - sudosysgen 6y ago
      Pocket and Mozilla VPN are prominent because they drive revenue which is useful to limit dependency on Google, thus greatly helping Firefox.
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93po 6y ago
I tried contributing and there are so many entrenched "don't touch my stuff" senior editors or moderators that it's often hard to do much of anything depending on where you are. I gave up after spending 40+ hours attempting to help clean up little known articles of a genre of music only to have 90% of what I did get reversed even though I am very confident it was within wikipedia guidelines. I was also harassed and accused of racism (by the subject of the article) after nominating his article for deletion because it didn't meet notability requirements.

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eitland 6y ago

Same as with me and Mozilla then: I deeply dislike that these four things happens almost simultaneously : - firing the people who create their biggest contributions to the free and open web ab also their main source of income - supporting other efforts all over the place - begging for money from the "community" - while brushing me of in tje comments when I ask about progress on a 4 year old bug

gggtt 6y ago
- and the boss paying herself massive salary while Mozilla is dying You can support Servo Project independently now : https://crowdfunding.lfx.linuxfoundation.org/projects/servo https://crowdfunding.lfx.linuxfoundation.org/projects/servo While it doesn't directly contribute to Firefox itself (for now) I think this is worth supporting
- eitland 6y ago
  > You can support Servo Project independently now : Already do :-) As for her salary, I won't make a point out of that: she has already negotiated orders of magnitude more than that in income to Mozilla.
andrekandre 6y ago
i have felt the same many times... i think the "bug in the program" is: donation doesnt give you a vote/ownership. i sort of feel like an interesting experiment might be an idea where donating above a certain amount (say 5 dollars) should give someone "a years ownership" and a vote in major policy decisions for that year, sort of like a consumer cooperative also, in that model, a company couldnt just buy more shares and get more votes (like a stock)... that might be a better model... maybe