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"It's a private company, they can do what they want!"
by morlockabove 6y ago
"It's a private company, they can do what they want!"
- mattigames 6y agoI don't think the people who came up with that rule really accounted for one company becoming the main channel of communication for the human race.
- morlockabove 6y agoPeople were using the argument five years ago, 4,3,2, yesterday. Whenever one of these monopolies does something to A that B approves of and A objects, B comes out with IAPCTCDWTW. People generally seem love to make excuses for Power when it's stepping on people they don't like, and are then somehow surprised when Power turns around and crushes them.
- mattigames 6y agoI never mentioned no sides so I'm not following you here; but to answer to your argument even if the government gets control of FB and decides to silence some group I support (e.g. homosexuals) and therefore I disagree with such decision I still would prefer that control of a main communication platform to be in hands of the government and not random executives, in such case my focus (and people's) would be to have a less homophobic government where at least my vote counts and not some random execs that I have no minor influence upon.
- tomp 6y agoIf you don’t like it, build your own stock market.
- gruez 6y agoYou literally can't because of government regulations, although spinning up your own self-hosted community hasn't been regulated yet and is fairly easy.
- SulfurHexaFluri 6y agoJust build your own country on an island to run your stock market.
- dudul 6y agoAre there still islands that have not been claimed by a country?
- ttt0 6y agoNo one is stopping you from building your own island. Stop whining.
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- mcosta 6y agoItaly does not agree with that. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Republic_of_Rose_Island https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Republic_of_Rose_Island
- SulfurHexaFluri 6y agoThe problem was that he didn't make his own military to defend the land
- ttt0 6y agoExactly. All you have to do is gather the money to fund it. It's really not that hard, you just have to build your own bank and stock market first.
- laretluval 6y ago"yet"
- Avicebron 6y agoThat's like say...found your own country no one will try to stop your or won't let you into the UN
- ttt0 6y agoJust build your own UN, buddy.
- qwerty456127 6y ago> found your own country no one will try to stop your E.g. Asgardia can be considered a surprisingly successful proto-nation. AFAIK UN actually contacted them and asked to launch a satellite into space (which they can) but that ended up a diplomatic failure. > or won't let you into the UN Getting into the UN hardly really means much. There are many nations in the UN nobody cares about. There also are nations not in the UN yet very relevant (e.g. Taiwan which was among the UN founders). [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asgardia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asgardia
- perl4ever 6y agoNo, it's not. For instance: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dark_pool https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dark_pool
- frEdmbx 6y agoReminds me.. How's T0 coming along?
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- swader999 6y agoCrypto space is working on it.
- iab 6y agoThis is going to be the rallying cry of the apocalypse, isn’t it
- ihsw 6y agoIt already is, the anti-lockdown folks are pointing to it as hypocrisy and duplicity. Social media can do as it pleases because "it's a private company" but restaurants that comply with every regulation under the sun are crushed under the weight of lockdown mania.
- Simulacra 6y agoSo businesses can reopen?
- morlockabove 6y agoSorry, they can do what they want if they're funded by venture capital.
- google234123 6y agoJust build your own website bro Just build your own host bro Just build your own financial banking system bro just build your own social media platform bro just build your own payment processing platform bro just build your own internet infrastructure bro
- grecy 6y agoToday I saw: Common Folk: We want a chance at financial stability." Rich Folk: "Invest your money." Common Folk: "OK, GME it is." Rich Folk: "Wait. Not like that. Stop. This clearly must be outlawed."
- perl4ever 6y agoSometimes people ask, why do rich people keep striving for more money? What is the point of having $1B instead of $100M, or $10B instead of $1B, or $100B instead of $10B? Sometimes the answer is given, that it's the same impulse as playing a computer game and money is the score. But the last few days, something else occurred to me, watching the kind of disarray of various billionaire hedge fund types. A big attraction of wealth on that level must be the sense that you're smarter than nearly anyone else. This situation punctures that and it seems like a lot of quotes in the news are about scrambling to save face and protect peoples' self images. I don't think they are actually outraged over monetary losses as such. It's interesting that people are comparing it to Occupy Wall Street.
- rokhayakebe 6y agoMoney is the score
- perl4ever 6y agoWhen playing a computer game, of course, after you get a high score, you start over at zero, and there's a good chance you switch to a different game.
- gruez 6y ago
- SulfurHexaFluri 6y agoFacebook is kind of fucked both ways tbh. If they don't remove anything they get blasted for hosting violence and abuse and if they remove too much they get blasted for censorship. Its impossible for them to remove just the right amount of stuff since thats subjective and they could never train a million moderators on how to apply it. I think the real solution here is we need to break up the social media companies. Have each community be its own self hosted website again where the moderators of the community take responsibility for it and apply their own rules. The government can then step in and take action if the communities are illegal.
- morlockabove 6y agoIf we can get federated solutions to be nice enough, maybe that'll do it.
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- Calamity 6y agoAgree on the first part, but the second part doesn't seem as though it would practically work. Subreddits are the closest approximation and they still fall under a monolithic umbrella (and struggle to cope). Also, in terms of balance of power, breaking up all the different communities into separate smaller units gives too much power to the government IMO. It's essentially the ideal situation for a government who would like to pressure anyu one smaller community. Much harder to shush/gag/silence/stealth takedown a Facebook or a Reddit than it is a small entity. Divide & Conquer. Facebook is definitely stuck between a rock and a hard place here though. This is why I think Mark Zuckerberg is actually being authentic when he says that "Facebook needs more regulation". He's already seen this problem and knows that having that subjective burden offloaded onto the government is the only true solution, i.e. "just tell me what the rules are and I shall play by them". Conveniently, these additional rules would also make it much harder for a new entrant to come unseat Facebook. So more regulation from the government is, in reality, win-win for Facebook.
- tester34 6y ago
- tarkin2 6y agoYes. They are a private company. Yes they can do what they want. And people can critizise. It was the same with Trump and it is the same now.
- morlockabove 6y agoHow does zuck's zuckle taste?
- AnIdiotOnTheNet 6y agoNo, see, what you don't get is that they're a big company and people really want to use their product, so the rules are different... for some reason, I guess?