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We'll unlikely reach said number because over 50% of the population of the us is not interested in a vaccine because they do not view covid-19 as a disease much

We'll unlikely reach said number because over 50% of the population of the us is not interested in a vaccine because they do not view covid-19 as a disease much more risky than the flu. Facing this reality, the policy will probably be once everyone who wants it has had a chance to get it, things will or should move towards normal.

acct776 6y ago
Source?
- hanniabu 6y ago
  I hear it everywhere as well, even from people that aren't antimaskers
SpicyLemonZest 6y ago
The number of people interested is up to 66% now (https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn.com/cnn/2021/01/21/politics/cnn-poll-coronavirus-vaccine/index.html https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn.com/cnn/2021/01/21/poli...), and I think there’s good reason to expect it to keep rising as the rollout continues. It does seem likely there’ll be an awkward in between period where we don’t have quite enough takeup but the vaccinated people demand to go clubbing, but I don’t expect it’ll be too large.
- remote_phone 6y ago
  The number of people in the US interested in getting vaccinated is very high, especially compared to Europe where it’s something like 20% in France.
  - satellite2 6y ago
    It's 59% of people interested in getting the vaccine in France. https://www.ipsos.com/fr-fr/59-des-francais-prets-recourir-un-eventuel-vaccin-contre-la-covid-19 https://www.ipsos.com/fr-fr/59-des-francais-prets-recourir-u...
chrisco255 6y ago
For large portion of the population, it isn't. 99.9+% for many demographics. I'm not interested in it personally, as one of my dad's coworkers got Bell's palsy from the vaccine. Given my age and risk profile, the vaccine isn't worth it.
- hsbauauvhabzb 6y ago
  Nevermind the people who you infect and kill, you can’t be blamed for that, right?
  - eitland 6y ago
    Your statement seems to imply that the current vaccines prevent the spread of the virus too. Do you know this is verified yet? It was in the news today and it didn't seem like it was known yet here in Norway. I think we are using the Biontech vaccine. And, FTR, yes I'm generally pro vaccines.
    - corin_ 6y ago
      There's no evidence yet (that I'm aware of) which is why experts are very cautious against giving false hope. But based on past vaccines for other viruses and the way they and the covid vaccines help your body be better prepared to fight the virus, it's a reasonable guess that they may well at least limit spread, perhaps even close to prevent it. So you're right to point out that it's not a sure thing, but I (admittedly, not an expert, but basing on views of experts) also think it would be more surprising if the vaccines didn't slow spread at all, the bigger question will be to what extent (both with and without current protective tools like masks and social distancing).
      - hsbauauvhabzb 6y ago
        Even if there is no reduced spread, reducing load on hospitals has got to be a good thing. That’s assuming the vaccine doesn’t increase spread (where I’m assuming a reduced likelihood of symptoms)..
  - 6y ago
balia 6y ago
At some point, we have to let these people choose. You can only protect people from themselves to a certain degree Once the sane ones are vaccinated, open everything up and let nature take care of the dumb ones. If you insist on drinking gasoline, good luck
- hsbauauvhabzb 6y ago
  Don’t forget the collateral damage of vulnerable people that cannot take the vaccine for whatever reason. Australia just passed for ages 16 and up, no idea if people under that age with other conditions are SOL or if they’re allowed to bypass that restriction. Fortunately, the population here are generally pro-fax, I assume to the point where herd immunity is actually viable.
- lsiebert 6y ago
  The people who don't get the vaccine aren't just hurting themselves. We need herd immunity for people who can't take it, or for whom it won't benefit. There are definitely people who may not benefit as much from the vaccine because they are immuno-compromised for example. The only reason not to take it is if your doctor tells you not to. Unless they've told us not to for medical reasons, we should take it if we can get it, ASAP. And I think pressuring people to take it is appropriate, given that it's not just them at risk. https://www.healthline.com/health-news/who-can-and-cant-safely-get-the-covid-19-vaccine https://www.healthline.com/health-news/who-can-and-cant-safe...
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  - twelve40 6y ago
    Apparently the post you're replying to is not very popular. But I think both yours and that post make valid points that don't even contradict each other. Because even if we pressure people to do the right thing, after all, this is presumably a free country and there seem to be plenty of people (quickly scanning this thread for percentage quotes, dangerously close to ruining the presumed herd immunity level) who will refuse - or neglect - to comply. But what can really be done about this? Pressuring in form of awareness efforts will take probably years, and who knows how many deniers will even get it. I'm starting to read posts and "studies" about paying people off, which I think is insane - (1) the whole idea of people who want to fix this problem actually having to bribe via their taxes those people who refuse to accept reality, and (2) payoffs can simply be abused in a million ways - but whatever, say we all take one for the greater good. But then even a large-scale payoff effort will also take months if not years. What else can you do to pressure people? Restrict their rights until they get a shot? Tell them their kids can't go to school until they show a QR proof of vaccine? Realistically, just how can you pressure people if you are not in North Korea? So then we're back to everyone on lockdown because of the stubborn few?
vkou 6y ago
Thanks to baseless, politically motivated FUD, there are a lot of people who don't want to get vaccinated, but that number is nowhere near 50%.
- guscost 6y ago
  We will see. Flu shots get around 45%.
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acct776 6y ago

Source?

hanniabu 6y ago
I hear it everywhere as well, even from people that aren't antimaskers

SpicyLemonZest 6y ago

The number of people interested is up to 66% now (https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn.com/cnn/2021/01/21/politics/cnn-poll-coronavirus-vaccine/index.html https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn.com/cnn/2021/01/21/poli...), and I think there’s good reason to expect it to keep rising as the rollout continues. It does seem likely there’ll be an awkward in between period where we don’t have quite enough takeup but the vaccinated people demand to go clubbing, but I don’t expect it’ll be too large.

remote_phone 6y ago
The number of people in the US interested in getting vaccinated is very high, especially compared to Europe where it’s something like 20% in France.
- satellite2 6y ago
  It's 59% of people interested in getting the vaccine in France. https://www.ipsos.com/fr-fr/59-des-francais-prets-recourir-un-eventuel-vaccin-contre-la-covid-19 https://www.ipsos.com/fr-fr/59-des-francais-prets-recourir-u...

chrisco255 6y ago

For large portion of the population, it isn't. 99.9+% for many demographics. I'm not interested in it personally, as one of my dad's coworkers got Bell's palsy from the vaccine. Given my age and risk profile, the vaccine isn't worth it.

hsbauauvhabzb 6y ago
Nevermind the people who you infect and kill, you can’t be blamed for that, right?
- eitland 6y ago
  Your statement seems to imply that the current vaccines prevent the spread of the virus too. Do you know this is verified yet? It was in the news today and it didn't seem like it was known yet here in Norway. I think we are using the Biontech vaccine. And, FTR, yes I'm generally pro vaccines.
  - corin_ 6y ago
    There's no evidence yet (that I'm aware of) which is why experts are very cautious against giving false hope. But based on past vaccines for other viruses and the way they and the covid vaccines help your body be better prepared to fight the virus, it's a reasonable guess that they may well at least limit spread, perhaps even close to prevent it. So you're right to point out that it's not a sure thing, but I (admittedly, not an expert, but basing on views of experts) also think it would be more surprising if the vaccines didn't slow spread at all, the bigger question will be to what extent (both with and without current protective tools like masks and social distancing).
    - hsbauauvhabzb 6y ago
      Even if there is no reduced spread, reducing load on hospitals has got to be a good thing. That’s assuming the vaccine doesn’t increase spread (where I’m assuming a reduced likelihood of symptoms)..
- 6y ago

balia 6y ago

At some point, we have to let these people choose. You can only protect people from themselves to a certain degree Once the sane ones are vaccinated, open everything up and let nature take care of the dumb ones. If you insist on drinking gasoline, good luck

hsbauauvhabzb 6y ago
Don’t forget the collateral damage of vulnerable people that cannot take the vaccine for whatever reason. Australia just passed for ages 16 and up, no idea if people under that age with other conditions are SOL or if they’re allowed to bypass that restriction. Fortunately, the population here are generally pro-fax, I assume to the point where herd immunity is actually viable.
lsiebert 6y ago
The people who don't get the vaccine aren't just hurting themselves. We need herd immunity for people who can't take it, or for whom it won't benefit. There are definitely people who may not benefit as much from the vaccine because they are immuno-compromised for example. The only reason not to take it is if your doctor tells you not to. Unless they've told us not to for medical reasons, we should take it if we can get it, ASAP. And I think pressuring people to take it is appropriate, given that it's not just them at risk. https://www.healthline.com/health-news/who-can-and-cant-safely-get-the-covid-19-vaccine https://www.healthline.com/health-news/who-can-and-cant-safe...
- deleted 6y ago
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- twelve40 6y ago
  Apparently the post you're replying to is not very popular. But I think both yours and that post make valid points that don't even contradict each other. Because even if we pressure people to do the right thing, after all, this is presumably a free country and there seem to be plenty of people (quickly scanning this thread for percentage quotes, dangerously close to ruining the presumed herd immunity level) who will refuse - or neglect - to comply. But what can really be done about this? Pressuring in form of awareness efforts will take probably years, and who knows how many deniers will even get it. I'm starting to read posts and "studies" about paying people off, which I think is insane - (1) the whole idea of people who want to fix this problem actually having to bribe via their taxes those people who refuse to accept reality, and (2) payoffs can simply be abused in a million ways - but whatever, say we all take one for the greater good. But then even a large-scale payoff effort will also take months if not years. What else can you do to pressure people? Restrict their rights until they get a shot? Tell them their kids can't go to school until they show a QR proof of vaccine? Realistically, just how can you pressure people if you are not in North Korea? So then we're back to everyone on lockdown because of the stubborn few?

vkou 6y ago

Thanks to baseless, politically motivated FUD, there are a lot of people who don't want to get vaccinated, but that number is nowhere near 50%.

guscost 6y ago
We will see. Flu shots get around 45%.
- deleted 6y ago
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