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> "Made in China, High-tech from Taiwan, rest of the design from California" Aren't the CPU-making machines actually coming from The Netherlands and TSMC is "j
by killtimeatwork 6y ago
> "Made in China, High-tech from Taiwan, rest of the design from California"
Aren't the CPU-making machines actually coming from The Netherlands and TSMC is "just" using them to produce the chips?
- amelius 6y agoI bet Intel would use them for their 5nm process if they knew how.
- amluto 6y agoThe EUV sources are just light sources. Calling them chip making machines is like calling a very expensive stove a Michelin-starred restaurant.
- detaro 6y agoASML is making more than "just light sources". (indeed the "light source" part of their photolitography machines is something they bought a company from the US for - the entire industry has supply chains spanning the world, so attributing it to countries makes not that much sense IMHO)
- amluto 6y agoInteresting, I stand corrected.
- totalZero 6y agoI think of them as Si printers with incredibly precise optics. There is certainly something missing in your analogy.
- ahartmetz 6y agoYeah, it's like inkjet printer vs a little hose that squirts ink, only more so.
- imtringued 6y agoThat's like calling boeing a propeller company. ASML builds chip making machines. EUV isn't about light sources. It's about the entire process. https://www.deingenieur.nl/artikel/first-commercial-asml-euv-chip-in-production https://www.deingenieur.nl/artikel/first-commercial-asml-euv... This article references Cymer as the manufacturer of the actual light source. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cymer https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cymer