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Airport security theatre apparently completely collapsed into a bizzaro world where wet streets cause rain and actors behave like they are on strong drugs. So,

Airport security theatre apparently completely collapsed into a bizzaro world where wet streets cause rain and actors behave like they are on strong drugs. So, we are talking about the area you are in after a flight, yes? Remind me, BBC, why is that a "secure" area? In case people smuggle bombs/weapons on a flight, just do nothing on the flight and than harm people afterwards?! I get that you want the are to be a one-lane-road to the outside, so nobody boards a plane that way. But how is a random passenger who is supposed to be there a danger? Do passengers spoil, like idk, milk, and become dangerous after a certain date? Why and how would anyone detect a passenger overstaying in the post-flight area? Who cares? That is the world most dumb threat model? Why is this a felony? This is the most victimless "crime" I have ever seen. Did the private prison called with a need for more slave labour, or why is this guy in court and not therapy? "Based upon the need for airports to be absolutely secure so that people feel safe to travel [...]" - you mean the need to implement wide-net surveillance and a massive military under the veil of an imaginary terrorist threat? Also, why the fuck is the full name and age of this obviously unwell guy printed? So that I can imagine that he is brown based on the last name? This disgusting practice adds zero journalistic value and ensures that this three-month mental health episode will now harm him for the rest of his life. This is disgusting journalism, disgusting framing and disgusting behaviour from all officials mentioned. It reads like someone badly satirizing Reagan-propaganda. Disgusting.

Aeolun 6y ago
> So, we are talking about the area you are in after a flight, yes? Since he had an employee badge, I have to assume he also entered other areas.
- baobabKoodaa 6y ago
  Downvoted. I don't see why you would assume that.
  - baobabKoodaa 6y ago
    Hey, to all the people downvoting my comment: the article paints a pretty clear picture that this person was staying in the arrivals area which is accessible to passengers, and the reason for his arrest and prosecution was that he was embarrassing airport security. At no point does the article claim or even hint at the possibility that the person used the stolen badge to enter other areas besides the arrivals area. So why are you just "assuming" that the person entered other areas with the badge? We're talking about a person who has already been doxxed and embarrassed for their mental health issues. On top of that you want to add your baseless speculation that he did some crimes? And you don't want to give any explanation why you believe that he did some crimes? You just want to smear the man some more, because hey, let's kick him while he's down? Furthermore, I find it ironic that the people who downvoted me are giving me less courtesy than I did with my downvote, where I explained the reason for downvoting.
    - cwhiz 6y ago
      I am sure he stole the badge because he just enjoys collecting quirky things.
      - baobabKoodaa 6y ago
        The most likely explanation for stealing the badge is that it provides cover for hanging out in the arrivals area 24/7. The article claims that the man stayed in an "area" (as in, a single area, rather than multiple areas). Have you ever been to an airport? They typically have security cameras everywhere. You don't think the investigation would have caught him walking into the flight control HQ to perform evil maid attack on flight control computers or whatnot?
        cwhiz 6y ago
        No, I’ve never been to an airport. Could you condescendingly tell me more about them?
        baobabKoodaa 6y ago
michaelt 6y ago
> So, we are talking about the area you are in after a flight, yes? Remind me, BBC, why is that a "secure" area? Firstly, if passengers with connecting flights can get off one flight and onto another without going through security again, then the arrivals area must be connected to the departures area, and hence as secure as the departures area. Indeed, if I wanted to sleep in an airport I'd go to the connections/departures area - as someone sleeping while awaiting a connection wouldn't seem out of the ordinary. Whereas sleeping in arrivals would be unusual, as an arriving passenger would go to their hotel or house and sleep there instead. Secondly, if international arrivals have not yet passed through customs/immigration, the area should be secure enough that they have to do so. Although in the case of O'Hare, I believe international arrivals have a separate terminal, and this passenger was on a domestic flight.
kingosticks 6y ago
> > lived undetected in a secure area of Chicago's international airport for three months, US prosecutors say. > Remind me, BBC, why is that a "secure" area? Isn't this a question for the US prosecutors? Failing that, if you want to blame the press, the Chicago Tribune? They felt the need to also include a photo.
- bluesign 6y ago
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Aeolun 6y ago

> So, we are talking about the area you are in after a flight, yes? Since he had an employee badge, I have to assume he also entered other areas.

baobabKoodaa 6y ago
Downvoted. I don't see why you would assume that.
- baobabKoodaa 6y ago
  Hey, to all the people downvoting my comment: the article paints a pretty clear picture that this person was staying in the arrivals area which is accessible to passengers, and the reason for his arrest and prosecution was that he was embarrassing airport security. At no point does the article claim or even hint at the possibility that the person used the stolen badge to enter other areas besides the arrivals area. So why are you just "assuming" that the person entered other areas with the badge? We're talking about a person who has already been doxxed and embarrassed for their mental health issues. On top of that you want to add your baseless speculation that he did some crimes? And you don't want to give any explanation why you believe that he did some crimes? You just want to smear the man some more, because hey, let's kick him while he's down? Furthermore, I find it ironic that the people who downvoted me are giving me less courtesy than I did with my downvote, where I explained the reason for downvoting.
  - cwhiz 6y ago
    I am sure he stole the badge because he just enjoys collecting quirky things.
    - baobabKoodaa 6y ago
      The most likely explanation for stealing the badge is that it provides cover for hanging out in the arrivals area 24/7. The article claims that the man stayed in an "area" (as in, a single area, rather than multiple areas). Have you ever been to an airport? They typically have security cameras everywhere. You don't think the investigation would have caught him walking into the flight control HQ to perform evil maid attack on flight control computers or whatnot?
      - cwhiz 6y ago
        No, I’ve never been to an airport. Could you condescendingly tell me more about them?
        baobabKoodaa 6y ago

michaelt 6y ago

> So, we are talking about the area you are in after a flight, yes? Remind me, BBC, why is that a "secure" area? Firstly, if passengers with connecting flights can get off one flight and onto another without going through security again, then the arrivals area must be connected to the departures area, and hence as secure as the departures area. Indeed, if I wanted to sleep in an airport I'd go to the connections/departures area - as someone sleeping while awaiting a connection wouldn't seem out of the ordinary. Whereas sleeping in arrivals would be unusual, as an arriving passenger would go to their hotel or house and sleep there instead. Secondly, if international arrivals have not yet passed through customs/immigration, the area should be secure enough that they have to do so. Although in the case of O'Hare, I believe international arrivals have a separate terminal, and this passenger was on a domestic flight.

kingosticks 6y ago

> > lived undetected in a secure area of Chicago's international airport for three months, US prosecutors say. > Remind me, BBC, why is that a "secure" area? Isn't this a question for the US prosecutors? Failing that, if you want to blame the press, the Chicago Tribune? They felt the need to also include a photo.

bluesign 6y ago
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