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Just so everyone knows, this is the type of stuff that aired of Foxnews days before the riot: https://youtu.be/oV97eEFJ4xI https://youtu.be/oV97eEFJ4xI A rall

Just so everyone knows, this is the type of stuff that aired of Foxnews days before the riot: https://youtu.be/oV97eEFJ4xI https://youtu.be/oV97eEFJ4xI A rallying call like that simply doesn’t work on Democrats, but god does it work on Republicans. I just don’t see any of this dying down at all, and the Republicans are always prepared to tap into this demo around election time (in two years time at the mid terms). They live for this. Banning them just validated their world view. This is all going to get even bigger now, and they will head into the catacombs.

rewq4321 6y ago
For the time-pressed: The relevant "call to action" starts at about 2 mins. He's basically screaming a few minutes later. I don't think democrats are immune to this sort of thing, but I agree that this has really gone way too far at this point. Need to remind myself that this is Fox News - not some Peertube alt-right commentator. Quite scary.
lostlogin 6y ago
Can someone explain why this is downvoted?
- jstummbillig 6y ago
  Not downvoting, just observing: Likely the opinionated and unprovable claim (that his can not happen to democrats), stated as an absolute fact.
  - runawaybottle 6y ago
    It’s inferable if you look at micro-timeline of modern American history. Sanders coalition is about the only grassroots group that came from the left and was swiftly rejected (twice). The grass roots movements of the tea party took the Obama era super majority away, and fortified a Trump outsider run. The boots on the ground every-man on the left is harder to rally, and thus far have not shown any ability to even dominate their own party (their platforms don’t even get taken up by the broader party, just parroted). Plus, if it were possible, there would be a voice in the mainstream media stoking this contingent (as in business has identified an obvious market).
nobodyandproud 6y ago
Do you have any evidence that this madness can’t happen to “our side?
- runawaybottle 6y ago
  I don’t have any evidence, I have conclusions on behavioral patterns. The Democrats lack physical presence. It’s been an ongoing issue for us for a very long time. We had extreme issues with getting our youth vote out, getting our minority votes out. It literally took a black President to get that demo to show up, and for some reason they stopped showing up right after he was gone (for Hilary). The kids don’t turn out at all for decades now. Many could argue if we didn’t literally send out mail in ballots, the turn out would have been lower. Republicans don’t have this problem, so no, I don’t think a warcry works on the Democrats because we have been very weak on physical presence for decades now. But in terms of madness, of course, all mobs are susceptible to this. Virtual turn out on the left is disproportionately high. The #metoo and BLM movements are clear examples of this. But again, the physical presence is lacking. The riots last summer were a blip and not coordinated, and led to zero legislation. I’ll concede #metoo inevitably entered into madness territory. The Republican tea-party people have been practicing for years protesting in DC, and they have their physical turnout covered in almost every election. If anything, I envy the right-wing’s ability to rally, and do not fear rally-calls on the left because we can barely show up for an election.
  - raxxorrax 6y ago
    You are downvoted, but it is often observed that rallying left leaning people behind a cause is much more difficult. Contrary to all the stickers we had the last years, it is indeed due to diverse opinions. In my opinion that is a good property in general, just no for elections.
  - nobodyandproud 6y ago
    Young people in general have not been a reliable demographic. Also a quick google search showed that 75% of the Tea Party were 45 or older (back in 2012). My take is that there’s a desperation behind the last 20 years or so. Haven’t you wondered what would cause an entire segment of the population to take a deep dive with thinly-disguised racists and Russian trolls?
h_anna_h 6y ago
The video has been removed.
- runawaybottle 6y ago
  Not surprised, if you YouTube/google ‘life liberty levin’, he is having to walk back all the stuff he’s being spewing pre-riots.
pmiller2 6y ago
The video's been removed by its uploader. What was it?
- runawaybottle 6y ago
  Evidence against the idea that the fringes are propagating revolt movements exclusively in alt media/networks like Parler. Foxnews has the same stuff, he was saying in no uncertain terms that the election was a fraud, and Democrats violated the constitution and that the people need to do something about it - no caveats.

rewq4321 6y ago

For the time-pressed: The relevant "call to action" starts at about 2 mins. He's basically screaming a few minutes later. I don't think democrats are immune to this sort of thing, but I agree that this has really gone way too far at this point. Need to remind myself that this is Fox News - not some Peertube alt-right commentator. Quite scary.

lostlogin 6y ago

Can someone explain why this is downvoted?

jstummbillig 6y ago
Not downvoting, just observing: Likely the opinionated and unprovable claim (that his can not happen to democrats), stated as an absolute fact.
- runawaybottle 6y ago
  It’s inferable if you look at micro-timeline of modern American history. Sanders coalition is about the only grassroots group that came from the left and was swiftly rejected (twice). The grass roots movements of the tea party took the Obama era super majority away, and fortified a Trump outsider run. The boots on the ground every-man on the left is harder to rally, and thus far have not shown any ability to even dominate their own party (their platforms don’t even get taken up by the broader party, just parroted). Plus, if it were possible, there would be a voice in the mainstream media stoking this contingent (as in business has identified an obvious market).

nobodyandproud 6y ago

Do you have any evidence that this madness can’t happen to “our side?

runawaybottle 6y ago
I don’t have any evidence, I have conclusions on behavioral patterns. The Democrats lack physical presence. It’s been an ongoing issue for us for a very long time. We had extreme issues with getting our youth vote out, getting our minority votes out. It literally took a black President to get that demo to show up, and for some reason they stopped showing up right after he was gone (for Hilary). The kids don’t turn out at all for decades now. Many could argue if we didn’t literally send out mail in ballots, the turn out would have been lower. Republicans don’t have this problem, so no, I don’t think a warcry works on the Democrats because we have been very weak on physical presence for decades now. But in terms of madness, of course, all mobs are susceptible to this. Virtual turn out on the left is disproportionately high. The #metoo and BLM movements are clear examples of this. But again, the physical presence is lacking. The riots last summer were a blip and not coordinated, and led to zero legislation. I’ll concede #metoo inevitably entered into madness territory. The Republican tea-party people have been practicing for years protesting in DC, and they have their physical turnout covered in almost every election. If anything, I envy the right-wing’s ability to rally, and do not fear rally-calls on the left because we can barely show up for an election.
- raxxorrax 6y ago
  You are downvoted, but it is often observed that rallying left leaning people behind a cause is much more difficult. Contrary to all the stickers we had the last years, it is indeed due to diverse opinions. In my opinion that is a good property in general, just no for elections.
- nobodyandproud 6y ago
  Young people in general have not been a reliable demographic. Also a quick google search showed that 75% of the Tea Party were 45 or older (back in 2012). My take is that there’s a desperation behind the last 20 years or so. Haven’t you wondered what would cause an entire segment of the population to take a deep dive with thinly-disguised racists and Russian trolls?

h_anna_h 6y ago

The video has been removed.

runawaybottle 6y ago
Not surprised, if you YouTube/google ‘life liberty levin’, he is having to walk back all the stuff he’s being spewing pre-riots.

pmiller2 6y ago

The video's been removed by its uploader. What was it?

runawaybottle 6y ago
Evidence against the idea that the fringes are propagating revolt movements exclusively in alt media/networks like Parler. Foxnews has the same stuff, he was saying in no uncertain terms that the election was a fraud, and Democrats violated the constitution and that the people need to do something about it - no caveats.