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What's your proposal for how Fox News should be handled, given they "lie every single day"? Should Fox News have their licenses removed, and be taken off the a

What's your proposal for how Fox News should be handled, given they "lie every single day"? Should Fox News have their licenses removed, and be taken off the air & internet?

hadrien01 6y ago
In the UK, Fox News had to cease broadcasting because it had breached multiple times due impartiality rules[0]. In the US, some are advocating for a return of the fairness doctrine. [0] https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/fox-news-stops-airing-uk-a-look-at-ofcom-rulings-1033789 https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/fox-news-stops-airing...
drogon2020 6y ago
So do all the news networks. What’s your plan for that.
cgrealy 6y ago
Most countries have a broadcasting standards authority of some sort. If you claim to be a news channel, then some measure of accuracy is not an unreasonable imposition. That said, given the increasing irrelevance of broadcast TV, I don't see how removing their licence would achieve much.
greatgirl 6y ago
This is literally how it used to work before the FCC removed the FCC fairness doctrine in 1987. Fox news was then founded in 1996.
- zerocrates 6y ago
  The fairness doctrine never applied to cable channels, nor did they have FCC licenses that could be revoked.
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rorykoehler 6y ago
Jail time for execs.
runawaybottle 6y ago
Just so everyone knows, this is the type of stuff that aired of Foxnews days before the riot: https://youtu.be/oV97eEFJ4xI https://youtu.be/oV97eEFJ4xI A rallying call like that simply doesn’t work on Democrats, but god does it work on Republicans. I just don’t see any of this dying down at all, and the Republicans are always prepared to tap into this demo around election time (in two years time at the mid terms). They live for this. Banning them just validated their world view. This is all going to get even bigger now, and they will head into the catacombs.
- rewq4321 6y ago
  For the time-pressed: The relevant "call to action" starts at about 2 mins. He's basically screaming a few minutes later. I don't think democrats are immune to this sort of thing, but I agree that this has really gone way too far at this point. Need to remind myself that this is Fox News - not some Peertube alt-right commentator. Quite scary.
- lostlogin 6y ago
  Can someone explain why this is downvoted?
  - jstummbillig 6y ago
    Not downvoting, just observing: Likely the opinionated and unprovable claim (that his can not happen to democrats), stated as an absolute fact.
    - runawaybottle 6y ago
      It’s inferable if you look at micro-timeline of modern American history. Sanders coalition is about the only grassroots group that came from the left and was swiftly rejected (twice). The grass roots movements of the tea party took the Obama era super majority away, and fortified a Trump outsider run. The boots on the ground every-man on the left is harder to rally, and thus far have not shown any ability to even dominate their own party (their platforms don’t even get taken up by the broader party, just parroted). Plus, if it were possible, there would be a voice in the mainstream media stoking this contingent (as in business has identified an obvious market).
wtfiswiththis 6y ago
>Should Fox News have their licenses removed, and be taken off the air & internet? Sounds like a good start. They have been involved in laundering terrorist rhetoric and incitement to mass attacks. Take the case of Fox employing Tucker Carlson. Tucker owns Daily Caller. Daily Caller published an article extolling the virtues of ISIS-style ramming attacks against protestors. Fox News republished this article. The result was a spike in ramming attacks against protestors. Fox gracefully pulled the article after complaints, no blow back since it wasn't their own article anyways. Nothing to see here, just entities paying each other and relaying each other's incitement. There has to be at least a dozen people at Fox News that need to be imprisoned for their role in pursuing death and violence against political and cultural opponents. So yes lets do the steps you mentioned then move on to discovery so we can find out how execs at Fox measured success when publishing incitement.
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- abnkl 6y ago
  Tucker Carlson has also interviewed Glenn Greenwald and called for the pardon of Assange. Something you would have expected from the "liberal" media pre 2010.
- ourmandave 6y ago
  Tucker Carlson was ruled to be not a credible news source in a court of law when he was sued for slander. US District Judge Mary Kay Vyskocil agreed with Fox's premise, adding that the network "persuasively argues" that "given Mr. Carlson's reputation, any reasonable viewer 'arrive[s] with an appropriate amount of skepticism' about the statements he makes." https://www.businessinsider.com/fox-news-karen-mcdougal-case-tucker-carlson-2020-9 https://www.businessinsider.com/fox-news-karen-mcdougal-case... It's the "any reasonable viewer arrives with an appropriate amount of skepticism" part that seems to be the problem.
TLightful 6y ago
Yes.

What's your proposal for how Fox News should be handled, given they "lie every single day"? Should Fox News have their licenses removed, and be taken off the air & internet?

hadrien01 6y ago

In the UK, Fox News had to cease broadcasting because it had breached multiple times due impartiality rules[0]. In the US, some are advocating for a return of the fairness doctrine. [0] https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/fox-news-stops-airing-uk-a-look-at-ofcom-rulings-1033789 https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/fox-news-stops-airing...

drogon2020 6y ago

So do all the news networks. What’s your plan for that.

cgrealy 6y ago

Most countries have a broadcasting standards authority of some sort. If you claim to be a news channel, then some measure of accuracy is not an unreasonable imposition. That said, given the increasing irrelevance of broadcast TV, I don't see how removing their licence would achieve much.

greatgirl 6y ago

This is literally how it used to work before the FCC removed the FCC fairness doctrine in 1987. Fox news was then founded in 1996.

zerocrates 6y ago
The fairness doctrine never applied to cable channels, nor did they have FCC licenses that could be revoked.
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rorykoehler 6y ago

Jail time for execs.

runawaybottle 6y ago

Just so everyone knows, this is the type of stuff that aired of Foxnews days before the riot: https://youtu.be/oV97eEFJ4xI https://youtu.be/oV97eEFJ4xI A rallying call like that simply doesn’t work on Democrats, but god does it work on Republicans. I just don’t see any of this dying down at all, and the Republicans are always prepared to tap into this demo around election time (in two years time at the mid terms). They live for this. Banning them just validated their world view. This is all going to get even bigger now, and they will head into the catacombs.

rewq4321 6y ago
For the time-pressed: The relevant "call to action" starts at about 2 mins. He's basically screaming a few minutes later. I don't think democrats are immune to this sort of thing, but I agree that this has really gone way too far at this point. Need to remind myself that this is Fox News - not some Peertube alt-right commentator. Quite scary.
lostlogin 6y ago
Can someone explain why this is downvoted?
- jstummbillig 6y ago
  Not downvoting, just observing: Likely the opinionated and unprovable claim (that his can not happen to democrats), stated as an absolute fact.
  - runawaybottle 6y ago
    It’s inferable if you look at micro-timeline of modern American history. Sanders coalition is about the only grassroots group that came from the left and was swiftly rejected (twice). The grass roots movements of the tea party took the Obama era super majority away, and fortified a Trump outsider run. The boots on the ground every-man on the left is harder to rally, and thus far have not shown any ability to even dominate their own party (their platforms don’t even get taken up by the broader party, just parroted). Plus, if it were possible, there would be a voice in the mainstream media stoking this contingent (as in business has identified an obvious market).

wtfiswiththis 6y ago

>Should Fox News have their licenses removed, and be taken off the air & internet? Sounds like a good start. They have been involved in laundering terrorist rhetoric and incitement to mass attacks. Take the case of Fox employing Tucker Carlson. Tucker owns Daily Caller. Daily Caller published an article extolling the virtues of ISIS-style ramming attacks against protestors. Fox News republished this article. The result was a spike in ramming attacks against protestors. Fox gracefully pulled the article after complaints, no blow back since it wasn't their own article anyways. Nothing to see here, just entities paying each other and relaying each other's incitement. There has to be at least a dozen people at Fox News that need to be imprisoned for their role in pursuing death and violence against political and cultural opponents. So yes lets do the steps you mentioned then move on to discovery so we can find out how execs at Fox measured success when publishing incitement.

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abnkl 6y ago
Tucker Carlson has also interviewed Glenn Greenwald and called for the pardon of Assange. Something you would have expected from the "liberal" media pre 2010.
ourmandave 6y ago
Tucker Carlson was ruled to be not a credible news source in a court of law when he was sued for slander. US District Judge Mary Kay Vyskocil agreed with Fox's premise, adding that the network "persuasively argues" that "given Mr. Carlson's reputation, any reasonable viewer 'arrive[s] with an appropriate amount of skepticism' about the statements he makes." https://www.businessinsider.com/fox-news-karen-mcdougal-case-tucker-carlson-2020-9 https://www.businessinsider.com/fox-news-karen-mcdougal-case... It's the "any reasonable viewer arrives with an appropriate amount of skepticism" part that seems to be the problem.

TLightful 6y ago

Yes.