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Of course it is, don’t trade the headlines. But it’s important to know your experience in the US will vary dramatically based on economic status. If you’re hig

Of course it is, don’t trade the headlines. But it’s important to know your experience in the US will vary dramatically based on economic status. If you’re high income/above-average educated (which you pretty much have to be to immigrate to the US due to the overly strict/broken immigration system), there’s no better place to be. You will be able to reach the absolute peak of your potential here. 10/10, would immigrate again. If you’re middle of the road on income/education, you’d be better off in other developed countries that have robust socialized services (healthcare, pension, free education, etc) like the Nordics. Most developed countries have a better lifestyle for the average person. If you’re below average on income/education, the US is the worst of the developed countries to live in. I’d stay far away.

jimbokun 6y ago
I disagree. I live in Pittsburgh, and we recently had the Tree of Life Synagogue shooting. There were also people being threatened along the route of a Black Lives Matter protest, who just happened to be there and did not join in enthusiastically enough, in the eyes of the marching protesters. No one was injured, but from the videos it seemed very close to getting out of hand. (Marchers coming off the street to verbally accost people sitting outside at a restaurant, grabbing drinks off their tables. Marching into a McDonalds and verbally harassing the manager...about something.) And of course police going off on protesters, looking for excuses to escalate the use of force. And with police reluctant to engage in communities where they are...unpopular...(with reason), murder rates are at their highest rates in years in many cities. And now the unprecedented attack on the capitol. I feel like I will get responses saying I am understating or overstating the violence from "one side" or the other. But my point is no one can deny the amount of violence is rapidly increasing, and no one really knows if it will get a lot worse before it gets better. I wouldn't recommend anyone coming to the US right now, without a good reason.
- kortilla 6y ago
  Those are certainly some scary anecdotes you have, but the stats don’t support them. Things just seem worse because the media (and social media) likes to make a political spectacle out of everything to drive engagement. Shootings are no longer murders, they are events to argue over gun control. Terrorist attacks are no longer about the attacks, they are used to argue about encryption, the free flow of information, and censorship. These events just seem more frequent because rather than being a one day headline they get talked about ad nauseam for weeks.
- pembrook 6y ago
  It seems you spend a lot of time watching sensational news media and not a lot of time looking at actual data (don’t feel bad, it’s a trap I’ve fallen into before). Look at any chart of violence in the US, it’s a steady downward slope over the past 30 years. There’s never been a safer time to be alive: https://www.statista.com/statistics/191219/reported-violent-crime-rate-in-the-usa-since-1990/ https://www.statista.com/statistics/191219/reported-violent-...
  - itsyaboi 6y ago
    https://www.toonpool.com/user/128241/files/on_average_3613685.jpg https://www.toonpool.com/user/128241/files/on_average_361368... Don’t feel bad, it’s a mistake we've all made before.

jimbokun 6y ago

I disagree. I live in Pittsburgh, and we recently had the Tree of Life Synagogue shooting. There were also people being threatened along the route of a Black Lives Matter protest, who just happened to be there and did not join in enthusiastically enough, in the eyes of the marching protesters. No one was injured, but from the videos it seemed very close to getting out of hand. (Marchers coming off the street to verbally accost people sitting outside at a restaurant, grabbing drinks off their tables. Marching into a McDonalds and verbally harassing the manager...about something.) And of course police going off on protesters, looking for excuses to escalate the use of force. And with police reluctant to engage in communities where they are...unpopular...(with reason), murder rates are at their highest rates in years in many cities. And now the unprecedented attack on the capitol. I feel like I will get responses saying I am understating or overstating the violence from "one side" or the other. But my point is no one can deny the amount of violence is rapidly increasing, and no one really knows if it will get a lot worse before it gets better. I wouldn't recommend anyone coming to the US right now, without a good reason.

kortilla 6y ago
Those are certainly some scary anecdotes you have, but the stats don’t support them. Things just seem worse because the media (and social media) likes to make a political spectacle out of everything to drive engagement. Shootings are no longer murders, they are events to argue over gun control. Terrorist attacks are no longer about the attacks, they are used to argue about encryption, the free flow of information, and censorship. These events just seem more frequent because rather than being a one day headline they get talked about ad nauseam for weeks.
pembrook 6y ago
It seems you spend a lot of time watching sensational news media and not a lot of time looking at actual data (don’t feel bad, it’s a trap I’ve fallen into before). Look at any chart of violence in the US, it’s a steady downward slope over the past 30 years. There’s never been a safer time to be alive: https://www.statista.com/statistics/191219/reported-violent-crime-rate-in-the-usa-since-1990/ https://www.statista.com/statistics/191219/reported-violent-...
- itsyaboi 6y ago
  https://www.toonpool.com/user/128241/files/on_average_3613685.jpg https://www.toonpool.com/user/128241/files/on_average_361368... Don’t feel bad, it’s a mistake we've all made before.