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There is no popular position with moderation, everyone hates the umpire. On the flip side, if everyone hates you equally you're probably on the right track.
by chillacy 6y ago
There is no popular position with moderation, everyone hates the umpire.
On the flip side, if everyone hates you equally you're probably on the right track.
- polka_haunts_us 6y agoI dunno, I was friends in college with someone who moderated a subreddit whose head mod was univesally hated to the point where a rival subreddit formed and eventually outpaced the original. I have to say from everything I heard about the guy, and my own rare interactions with him, the hatred of him was 100% justified. Some people are just very shitty and lack any sympathizers.
- edbob 6y ago> On the flip side, if everyone hates you equally you're probably on the right track. This gives pedophiles the moral high ground.
- chillacy 6y ago* when moderating But touché, I could have been more clear as to the scope of my statement.
- optimalsolver 6y agoYou were the chosen one!
- edbob 6y agoWhat do you mean?
- chasd00 6y agobest to be a moderator who is loved. next is a moderator who is feared. worst is a moderator who is hated.
- bra-ket 6y agoOnly in this case the President is using Twitter to talk directly to supporters and try to calm down people. Twitter is definitely the baddy here, looks like they're giving in to the left wing mob. Edit: they also suspended Lin Wood https://twitter.com/LLinWood https://twitter.com/LLinWood
- abootstrapper 6y agoThe hell he’s been tweeting them to calm down.
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- morelisp 6y agoFour people are dead and their blood is on your hands.
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- dang 6y agoPlease don't do this here.
- na85 6y ago>Only in this case the President is using Twitter to talk directly to supporters and try to calm down people. He's pretty explicitly doing the opposite of trying to calm people down.
- tjpnz 6y ago>Only in this case the President is using Twitter to talk directly to supporters and try to calm down people. The very same people he was winding up a few hours earlier.
- skrebbel 6y ago> everyone hates the umpire. I'd say @dang is pretty liked around here! Ups to the great umpire, keep it up. This shit is hard.
- FriendlyNormie 6y agoYou just randomly brought him up and then immediately shoved his dick into your mouth. What’s wrong with you? No one likes a sycophant.
- nindalf 6y agoHe is, but maybe there’s some survivorship bias there. We can’t really ask the shadowbanned people what they think of the moderation because they’re shadowbanned.
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- shard972 6y agodang has an ego problem at times, but yep im shadowbanned so i guess bias
- szatkus 6y agoYou can turn on dead comments in your preferences and see all the nice things they have to say.
- throwaway0a5e 6y agoMost of the things they have to say are reasonable most of the time. Like mundane comments about programming languages and whatnot. I think they would be pretty pissed off to know that they've been banned for months or more because they said something that rubbed the mods the wrong way at one point.
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- inglor_cz 6y agoThere is a problem when the umpire is an empire. If HN decided to ban Trump, no one but local hacker population would notice. In case of services with billions of registered users, quantity has its own quality. Facebook, Twitter et al. built enormous platforms for speech and thus got caught up in the middle of all cultural and political conflicts on this planet. Not just American election(s), but elections in Belarus, Kazakhstan, Germany, UK, Brazil, plus religious conflicts such as Islamists vs. people who draw Muhammad. They cannot possibly stay neutral in all those wars at once and when they start taking sides, they will be hated first and then, later, either dismembered or regulated to be a de-facto arm of the government.
- midasuni 6y ago> On the flip side, if everyone hates you equally you're probably on the right track. This is the false equivalence argument. Some argue that 5g spreads covid. Some argue it doesn’t. You advocate both views and everyone hates you. Doesn’t make you right.
- qmarchi 6y agoSo you're saying that 5G towers don't broadcast both COVID-19 _and_ 5G signaling? Why are there split bands then! /s
- spuz 6y agoWhat if you weight dislike by the number of people? There are surely more people who believe 5G doesn't cause COVID than those who do.
- hef19898 6y agoPropably wouldn't work, as the minority is much more liuder and active than the majority.
- pornel 6y agoSome myths and conspiracy theories are dangerously close to being believed by the majority of people: https://www.npr.org/2020/12/30/951095644/even-if-its-bonkers-poll-finds-many-believe-qanon-and-other-conspiracy-theories https://www.npr.org/2020/12/30/951095644/even-if-its-bonkers... so in the end you have to anchor this to some expertise and grounded-in-reality judgement. For example, the majority in the aforementioned poll believed that COVID-19 was created in a lab in China. And to be honest, an average person really has no way of truly knowing this. They're not virologists or spies. They can only judge based on a gut feeling whether China is/isn't evil, and that is likely based on other things they've heard, which may include rumors, propaganda and Bond movies.
- atleta 6y agoI haven't heard of the false equivalence before, but it doesn't sound like this. There is that popular fallacy though, but I'm not aware if it has a name, where people think that the truth is always in the middle (the golden middle). And you could say that this is it, but given the strong polarization and extremism around topics that involve politics it might be a good measure in this case. (Of course, depending on what exactly 'everybody' means.) By definition extremists of either side will see independent actors as hostile. But, of course, this is just a measure, not a proof.
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- watwut 6y ago> There is no popular position with moderation, everyone hates the umpire. Afaik, one big issue is that this account was operating under different rules then everybody else. As in, twitter was more permissive with Trump then with other people.