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Military alliance never makes sense unless you want war. In my opinion all military alliances should be banned by the UN.
by runarberg 6y ago
Military alliance never makes sense unless you want war. In my opinion all military alliances should be banned by the UN.
- nradov 6y agoThe UN has no authority to enact such a ban or any power to back it up. The UN is a forum for diplomacy, not a world government.
- runarberg 6y agoWell, issue a deceleration for the non-proliferation and the eventual abolition of military alliances between member states then.
- dragonwriter 6y ago> The UN has no authority to enact such a ban Sure it does: as with most UN “legislation” it would be adopted by the GA adopting treaty text and member states signing and ratifying the treaty. > or any power to back it up. That is the more relevant problem, especially since most of the UN’s power comes through...military alliances supportive of UN goals.
- SllX 6y agoThe UN is more akin to a discussion table. You can get whichever two or more nations in the world you want to denounce NATO and “ban” it, but three out of five permanent UNSC seat holders are NATO members and the only three nations in the world with a blue-water Navy worth a damn. A UN with teeth wouldn’t be a very good discussion table.
- SllX 6y agoUN doesn’t have that capability.
- Juliate 6y agoUnless you _provision for_ war. Which is not _exactly_ the same thing as _want_. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Si_vis_pacem,_para_bellum https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Si_vis_pacem,_para_bellum
- georgeecollins 6y agoThe historical period of the NATO alliance is also the longest period of peace from major wars in the history of Europe.
- runarberg 6y agoThere are number of better explanations for the peace, e.g. people remember the horrors of world war 2, increased democracy, increased trade and travel between the nations, more open borders between the nations? Historically and mathematically military build up leads to war. There is no point in military alliance unless you intend to use it. I say that peace has (almost) prevailed in Europe despite of NATO, not because of it
- dragonwriter 6y ago> Historically and mathematically military build up leads to war. Mathematics has nothing to do with it. And historically, military draw down also leads to war. Or, a better explanation might be, historically, passage of time leads to war.
- runarberg 6y ago> a better explanation might be, historically, passage of time leads to war. My point exactly. Say that wars break out naturally with some Poisson-like distribution. When the war breaks out, the scale of it is gonna be in relation to the current arsenal of the warring parties. So given your comment, I can revise my comment to say: Historically—and mathematically—military build up leads more devastating wars. Although that is not entirely true. As if nations didn’t hold militaries, there wouldn’t be wars between nations.
- AnimalMuppet 6y agoThose who don't have militaries can still die by them.
- georgeecollins 6y ago
- dragonwriter 6y ago> In my opinion all military alliances should be banned by the UN While it hasn't worked out all that well in practice, if you read the charter carefully, the UN is, among other things, a military alliance with a unified military command.