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Somewhat tongue in cheek, but still some good advice here: -- Know your surroundings, specifically where your exits are. The nearest exit may be behind you.

Somewhat tongue in cheek, but still some good advice here: -- Know your surroundings, specifically where your exits are. The nearest exit may be behind you. -- Break the rules. Officials may try to deter you from using passages, ladders or stairwells. Ignore them. If you need to kick open a door or pick a lock, do it. -- Be where the well-connected people are, and look/act the part. Try to blend into the tribe, be a part of the group that's getting out. Obviously in a modern context, these guidelines don't apply. Ignoring the instructions of flight attendants in a plane evacuation will get you killed. They are trained to evac that plane in 90 seconds. They won't be able to do it if you still have your briefcase, or haven't taken off your shoes as requested.

paleotrope 6y ago
"Break the rules. Officials may try to deter you from using passages, ladders or stairwells. Ignore them. If you need to kick open a door or pick a lock, do it." I would say that in general, when a ship is in danger of sinking, hatches are closed and dogged off for a reason, usually to control flooding, so this is a really bad advice. On the other hand, when a hatch is secured, you usually can't open it from one side, so if you are on the side that can lock, you are probably better off looking for another door.
- Spooky23 6y ago
  Whats bad for the whole might be better for you. People in the WTC were told to chill out, no worries, all is well. Screw that — if something hits the fan, I will gtfo.
  - s5300 6y ago
    I was in the Ritz-Carlson in DTLA last year for Anime expo. Waiting on the third floor for a convention with atleast 200 people just in that one smaller area, all of the sudden, a live voice came over the intercom with instructions to immediately evacuate the building, all but essential staff. In my mind it seemed as serious as if there was an active shooter somewhere. I was literally the only person in the group to fucking book it to a fire exit. Everybody else was just casually standing in line, like you seriously couldn't make up how serious they made the situation sound and how little just about everybody did to care. It was over in about 5 minutes, I never heard any explanation as to why it had happened aside from a rumour that somebody was vaping in the lobby and did not leave when asked to. And this is like, the biggest hotel in DTLA, during a massive convention. Not entirely relevant... but weird ass experience. People react to things strangely.
    - gear54rus 6y ago
      Don't know about you but in my country they test and test those system relentlessly so you get "boy who cried wolf" situation. Not sure how to avoid that.
      - WalterBright 6y ago
        That's when you append "this is not a drill".
      - bluGill 6y ago
        In my country they do the drills every year, the day - but not the time is announced in advanced. Everyone knows that they will be checking that everyone gets out, so we all leave and gather in our assigned locations and enjoy a paid break outside. They schedule these for good weather so getting outside is a nice break. This way people take it seriously, but don't panic. We know from experience that someone will be outside with a checklist to make sure we all leave. There are scientific practices behind the above. I suggest you get your country on board with those so that people take the alarm seriously.
    - tdeck 6y ago
      Once I was in the Newark Airport (never again, hopefully) when the fire alarm started going off. As I looked for an exit I noticed nobody was doing anything, and it continued to go off with at high volume with no announcement and no guidance from anyone for a full 20 minutes. I ended up staying because I didn't know what to do and didn't want to miss my flight.
    - 3pt14159 6y ago
      Very few people internalize the OODA loop. I've reacted fast in situations and it saved lives, but I wasn't born that way. I had trained for years as a kid in a program literally called Life Savers[0] which taught swimming in contexts where others are drowning, first aid including CPR, and how to react in situations like burning buildings and downed electrical lines. One of the first things they tell you is that untrained people react to chaos by freezing and that because most people are untrained this collective freeze is enforced by social pressure. So you need to point and yell in order to get people organized and moving. For example, when I was giving mouth-to-mouth to someone I pointed and yelled at one person to get me a medic and they just stared blankly back at me, so I pointed and yelled at the person standing next to them and he jumped into action. It takes focus and leadership, but it's vital during a crisis. [0] https://lifesaverscanada.com/ https://lifesaverscanada.com/
  - gregoriol 6y ago
    People in Grenfell tower in UK were also told to shelter in place, that sadly didn't work very well... Those procedures (plane evacuations, high-rises, ...) are designed for "best" conditions, when an emergency goes by the plan; but when something goes really wrong (plane breaks in two, huge building fire, ...), you better get out of there by any means.
- JimTheMan 6y ago
  I remember being in Anson, when it was reported a Korean Ferry going to Jeju hit a rock and started taking on water. The captain reported on the radio," everyone stay put." and for the most part they did, even while the captain was escaping the ship. 299 people drowned that day, many of them the local school in Anson. I remember walking past the highschool that very night and seeing the crowd of the bereaved. If more of those people chose to disobey a very strange order on a ship, more would have lived. It's important to know when a situation has really become an emergency and normal rules like, "listen to the captain even if he doesn't make sense" stop applying. The earlier you are able to recognise that shit has hit the fan and enter emergency rule breaking mode the better. In everyday life, I definitely notice that people do not take say, fire alarm seriously and act quickly enough. Don't be a deer caught in the spotlight, forge your own path and take these things seriously your life may depend on it (even if its 1% chance that that alarm is a real one). https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sinking_of_MV_Sewol https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sinking_of_MV_Sewol
  - cyberlurker 6y ago
    I’m glad you brought it up but you are doing a great disservice to this tragedy by saying the ferry simply hit a rock. It was criminally overloaded. There were payoffs for inspections. The CEO had connections to the president and was found dead in a field. There is a lot more to it. And yes the kids stayed inside the ship, following orders until it was far too late. It still makes me sick.
    - JimTheMan 6y ago
      The link has all the detail in it. I probably should have reviewed, but I am remembering details from the day it happened years ago. For the purposes of keeping the lesson brief, I feel justified. If I remember correctly, he also tried took a shortcut too because he was running late...
  - tomc1985 6y ago
    I saw cellphone videos taken inside the ship when this happened. The kids were highspirited and jovial for the circumstances. It was really creepy to watch
Schweigi 6y ago
There is a good book [1], which dives into why some people survive while others don't. One of the main takeaways is to break the rules if required. The other takeaway is to follow your instinct (like a child would). [1]: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B06VVMN5J2 https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B06VVMN5J2
- DennisP 6y ago
  I've read that book a couple times, it's fantastic. I gave a copy to my brother, a Navy officer, and he agreed.
- gfxgirl 6y ago
  Follow your instinct like a child would? Every child I know would just freeze and cry for mom.
  - foerbert 6y ago
    I don't think they mean to try to anticipate the instincts of a child and act accordingly, but rather that children will be more likely to just do whatever seems right to them, rather than paying so much attention to social conventions and normal-situation rules.
  - dheera 6y ago
    More like follow your instinct like a cat would.
    - _Microft 6y ago
      You mean ... tensing up and inching closer to the perceived threat? ;)
      - tobyhinloopen 6y ago
        Or just sitting down on the middle of the street staring at a car’s bumper while the car is honking. It’s a wonder my cat is still alive.
bsanr2 6y ago
When Titanic aired on broadcast TV earlier this year, I was struck by the horror of the situation in a way I hadn't been when it first came out (my being 7-years-old at the time might have something to do with that, of course). I came to similar conclusions at the time: situational awareness (especially listening to what the people around you are saying and reading between the lines), willingness to break rules, willingness to fall in line, humility and thoughtfulness enough to know when to do which. Also, an understanding that rich people will cause catastrophic failure and skate out scot-free; accept that, yes, in their hubris, they did do the unthinkable and now your little corner of the world is headed towards oblivion. Get out. 9/11 also comes to mind. The people who got out were lucky enough to be on lower floors and realized that none of the assurances held water. They ignored shelter-in-place orders and left.
- hef19898 6y ago
  I wouldn't draw much conclusions from a true disaster over 100 years ago (in which case the evacuation itself wasn't as bad, given the total lack of safety procedures and the timing) and a case in which nobody believed the buildings would go down. In both cases, rules have been revised, e.g. the closed doors between classes on the Titanic are not a thing anymore.
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  - bsanr2 6y ago
    I think the point is to realize that the unthinkable could be happening to you. We don't know until we know, and by then it may be too late.
- dan_hawkins 6y ago
  I've read in one of the 9/11 anniversary articles that majority of the people that survived from 2 WTC were the ones occupying offices with the windows facing 1 WTC where you could witness constant barrage of jumpers. Many of them mentioned that when they saw them something instinctively pushed them to get away from the place.
drdeadringer 6y ago
Around 2015 or so I audiobook'd the book "The Unthinkable: Who Survives When Disaster Strikes and Why" by Amanda Ripley [2009]. This book covers similar topics that you do in your comment. One is from a chief security employee in the Twin Towers, along the lines of "Never run to the roof". Which he did to try to save more people, which IIRC he didn't//couldn't. In other related stories, taking note of emergency exists whilst boarding an airplane [and similar for other folks in similar situations] noted out better survival over others. "Triangle crowding" at exits is also mentioned, which is partly why folks in charge scream "single file! walk do not run" at you as everyone rushes for the door to escape. The distinction is also made between "flight" and "fight" and the often left-out "freeze" response to in-time disaster. I found it a worth-while read.
vmh1928 6y ago
Like when people in the WTC were told to stay put. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2001/sep/16/september11.usa3 https://www.theguardian.com/world/2001/sep/16/september11.us...
smogcutter 6y ago
>Break the rules. Officials may try to deter you from using passages, ladders or stairwells. Ignore them. If you need to kick open a door or pick a lock, do it. I learned this lesson on 9/11, as a high school student in lower Manhattan. We were told to sit in our homerooms and wait, while smoke (and god knows what else) enveloped the building. Eventually we were shuffled out of the building and told to keep going north, left entirely to our own devices. I completely understand their reaction, but that doesn’t make it a good one. The authorities don’t necessarily know any more than you do. Their interest in maintaining order is not necessarily aligned with your interest in your own safety. When the shit hits the fan, don’t wait for permission to protect yourself. [obviously this is situational. I’m not advocating climbing over others to be first out the plane or etc]
- forgotmypw17 6y ago
  Someone I knows knows someone who worked in the second WTC building to be hit. After the first strike, their employer's plan was for everyone to stay in place, but they got the heck out of there. Saved their life.
  - mrslave 6y ago
    I saw a man interviewed on TV who was in a very similar situation. He just figured to get out even though there was no real understanding of what had happened to the first tower or knowledge of a threat to the second. The manager gave stay put and calm instructions while we wait for more information, and he just thought to leave via the fire escape stairwell and take the rest of the day off. Amazing.
- orev 6y ago
  In a situation like that, you only have a choice between really bad options. If everyone ran for the door, people would likely have been hurt or killed due to trampling. If everyone panics, you are guaranteed to have a bad outcome. In your case, staying in place might have allowed the dust to (literally) settle by the time you left the building. Obviously the people in the 2nd tower had a different outcome.
rapnie 6y ago
What I found really disturbing is the 'flight or fright' reaction of people that find themselves in these life or death situations. We all think we will act to save our lives, acting rationally, but apparently there's many people that just freeze in shock, unable to move or do anything even when their lives depend on it. Think I first saw this in a sunken ferry disaster movie, based on real events, where the family says to the son something like "You go, boy", while they stayed to drown with the ship. Really scary.
trhway 6y ago
That is very well applies to the situation when a a societal ship sinks, like say collapse of USSR and the socialist system. Probably also applies in the context of civil wars, ethnic conflicts, etc.
rob74 6y ago
Ignoring the instructions of flight attendants will allow you to get out with your briefcase, but may get others killed. That's the real issue - sacrificing something to help others. As we have seen during the last year, some are not even willing to put up with the minor inconvenience of wearing a mask (which they inflate with horror stories to rationalize it) to help others, so forgive me if I sound cynical...
kstenerud 6y ago
The most important guideline is: Know the safety rules better than the staff, and know WHY those safety rules are in place. Staff are people, and people do stupid things all the time. Unless you know why the rules exist, you're likely to make things worse by disregarding them, and you're guaranteed to amplify any staff screw-ups by following their instructions blindly.
JetSetWilly 6y ago
> Obviously in a modern context, these guidelines don't apply. That's not always true. Look at the Grenfell Tower fire in London. The official advice was for residents to stay in their flats, not panic, and definitely not rush out the building. But of course that was completely the wrong advice and it was much better to follow your instincts and get out than to stay put.
Aeolun 6y ago
> They won't be able to do it if you still have your briefcase, or haven't taken off your shoes as requested. I strongly believe the training to get the plane evacuated in 90 seconds includes a bunch of people doing exactly this.
- dxdm 6y ago
  Better to train realistic scenarios, and there will always people who do unhelpful things. Doesn't mean you should feel free to add yourself to that list. :)
raldi 6y ago
I once read an article about a guy who repeatedly managed to sneak into places at sporting events he shouldn't be: Down on the field to celebrate with the players that just won the championship, onto the press or VIP-suite level, even into locker rooms. He basically just did what you describe above.

paleotrope 6y ago

"Break the rules. Officials may try to deter you from using passages, ladders or stairwells. Ignore them. If you need to kick open a door or pick a lock, do it." I would say that in general, when a ship is in danger of sinking, hatches are closed and dogged off for a reason, usually to control flooding, so this is a really bad advice. On the other hand, when a hatch is secured, you usually can't open it from one side, so if you are on the side that can lock, you are probably better off looking for another door.

Spooky23 6y ago
Whats bad for the whole might be better for you. People in the WTC were told to chill out, no worries, all is well. Screw that — if something hits the fan, I will gtfo.
- s5300 6y ago
  I was in the Ritz-Carlson in DTLA last year for Anime expo. Waiting on the third floor for a convention with atleast 200 people just in that one smaller area, all of the sudden, a live voice came over the intercom with instructions to immediately evacuate the building, all but essential staff. In my mind it seemed as serious as if there was an active shooter somewhere. I was literally the only person in the group to fucking book it to a fire exit. Everybody else was just casually standing in line, like you seriously couldn't make up how serious they made the situation sound and how little just about everybody did to care. It was over in about 5 minutes, I never heard any explanation as to why it had happened aside from a rumour that somebody was vaping in the lobby and did not leave when asked to. And this is like, the biggest hotel in DTLA, during a massive convention. Not entirely relevant... but weird ass experience. People react to things strangely.
  - gear54rus 6y ago
    Don't know about you but in my country they test and test those system relentlessly so you get "boy who cried wolf" situation. Not sure how to avoid that.
    - WalterBright 6y ago
      That's when you append "this is not a drill".
    - bluGill 6y ago
      In my country they do the drills every year, the day - but not the time is announced in advanced. Everyone knows that they will be checking that everyone gets out, so we all leave and gather in our assigned locations and enjoy a paid break outside. They schedule these for good weather so getting outside is a nice break. This way people take it seriously, but don't panic. We know from experience that someone will be outside with a checklist to make sure we all leave. There are scientific practices behind the above. I suggest you get your country on board with those so that people take the alarm seriously.
  - tdeck 6y ago
    Once I was in the Newark Airport (never again, hopefully) when the fire alarm started going off. As I looked for an exit I noticed nobody was doing anything, and it continued to go off with at high volume with no announcement and no guidance from anyone for a full 20 minutes. I ended up staying because I didn't know what to do and didn't want to miss my flight.
  - 3pt14159 6y ago
    Very few people internalize the OODA loop. I've reacted fast in situations and it saved lives, but I wasn't born that way. I had trained for years as a kid in a program literally called Life Savers[0] which taught swimming in contexts where others are drowning, first aid including CPR, and how to react in situations like burning buildings and downed electrical lines. One of the first things they tell you is that untrained people react to chaos by freezing and that because most people are untrained this collective freeze is enforced by social pressure. So you need to point and yell in order to get people organized and moving. For example, when I was giving mouth-to-mouth to someone I pointed and yelled at one person to get me a medic and they just stared blankly back at me, so I pointed and yelled at the person standing next to them and he jumped into action. It takes focus and leadership, but it's vital during a crisis. [0] https://lifesaverscanada.com/ https://lifesaverscanada.com/
- gregoriol 6y ago
  People in Grenfell tower in UK were also told to shelter in place, that sadly didn't work very well... Those procedures (plane evacuations, high-rises, ...) are designed for "best" conditions, when an emergency goes by the plan; but when something goes really wrong (plane breaks in two, huge building fire, ...), you better get out of there by any means.
JimTheMan 6y ago
I remember being in Anson, when it was reported a Korean Ferry going to Jeju hit a rock and started taking on water. The captain reported on the radio," everyone stay put." and for the most part they did, even while the captain was escaping the ship. 299 people drowned that day, many of them the local school in Anson. I remember walking past the highschool that very night and seeing the crowd of the bereaved. If more of those people chose to disobey a very strange order on a ship, more would have lived. It's important to know when a situation has really become an emergency and normal rules like, "listen to the captain even if he doesn't make sense" stop applying. The earlier you are able to recognise that shit has hit the fan and enter emergency rule breaking mode the better. In everyday life, I definitely notice that people do not take say, fire alarm seriously and act quickly enough. Don't be a deer caught in the spotlight, forge your own path and take these things seriously your life may depend on it (even if its 1% chance that that alarm is a real one). https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sinking_of_MV_Sewol https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sinking_of_MV_Sewol
- cyberlurker 6y ago
  I’m glad you brought it up but you are doing a great disservice to this tragedy by saying the ferry simply hit a rock. It was criminally overloaded. There were payoffs for inspections. The CEO had connections to the president and was found dead in a field. There is a lot more to it. And yes the kids stayed inside the ship, following orders until it was far too late. It still makes me sick.
  - JimTheMan 6y ago
    The link has all the detail in it. I probably should have reviewed, but I am remembering details from the day it happened years ago. For the purposes of keeping the lesson brief, I feel justified. If I remember correctly, he also tried took a shortcut too because he was running late...
- tomc1985 6y ago
  I saw cellphone videos taken inside the ship when this happened. The kids were highspirited and jovial for the circumstances. It was really creepy to watch

Schweigi 6y ago

There is a good book [1], which dives into why some people survive while others don't. One of the main takeaways is to break the rules if required. The other takeaway is to follow your instinct (like a child would). [1]: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B06VVMN5J2 https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B06VVMN5J2

DennisP 6y ago
I've read that book a couple times, it's fantastic. I gave a copy to my brother, a Navy officer, and he agreed.
gfxgirl 6y ago
Follow your instinct like a child would? Every child I know would just freeze and cry for mom.
- foerbert 6y ago
  I don't think they mean to try to anticipate the instincts of a child and act accordingly, but rather that children will be more likely to just do whatever seems right to them, rather than paying so much attention to social conventions and normal-situation rules.
- dheera 6y ago
  More like follow your instinct like a cat would.
  - _Microft 6y ago
    You mean ... tensing up and inching closer to the perceived threat? ;)
    - tobyhinloopen 6y ago
      Or just sitting down on the middle of the street staring at a car’s bumper while the car is honking. It’s a wonder my cat is still alive.

bsanr2 6y ago

When Titanic aired on broadcast TV earlier this year, I was struck by the horror of the situation in a way I hadn't been when it first came out (my being 7-years-old at the time might have something to do with that, of course). I came to similar conclusions at the time: situational awareness (especially listening to what the people around you are saying and reading between the lines), willingness to break rules, willingness to fall in line, humility and thoughtfulness enough to know when to do which. Also, an understanding that rich people will cause catastrophic failure and skate out scot-free; accept that, yes, in their hubris, they did do the unthinkable and now your little corner of the world is headed towards oblivion. Get out. 9/11 also comes to mind. The people who got out were lucky enough to be on lower floors and realized that none of the assurances held water. They ignored shelter-in-place orders and left.

hef19898 6y ago
I wouldn't draw much conclusions from a true disaster over 100 years ago (in which case the evacuation itself wasn't as bad, given the total lack of safety procedures and the timing) and a case in which nobody believed the buildings would go down. In both cases, rules have been revised, e.g. the closed doors between classes on the Titanic are not a thing anymore.
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- bsanr2 6y ago
  I think the point is to realize that the unthinkable could be happening to you. We don't know until we know, and by then it may be too late.
dan_hawkins 6y ago
I've read in one of the 9/11 anniversary articles that majority of the people that survived from 2 WTC were the ones occupying offices with the windows facing 1 WTC where you could witness constant barrage of jumpers. Many of them mentioned that when they saw them something instinctively pushed them to get away from the place.

drdeadringer 6y ago

Around 2015 or so I audiobook'd the book "The Unthinkable: Who Survives When Disaster Strikes and Why" by Amanda Ripley [2009]. This book covers similar topics that you do in your comment. One is from a chief security employee in the Twin Towers, along the lines of "Never run to the roof". Which he did to try to save more people, which IIRC he didn't//couldn't. In other related stories, taking note of emergency exists whilst boarding an airplane [and similar for other folks in similar situations] noted out better survival over others. "Triangle crowding" at exits is also mentioned, which is partly why folks in charge scream "single file! walk do not run" at you as everyone rushes for the door to escape. The distinction is also made between "flight" and "fight" and the often left-out "freeze" response to in-time disaster. I found it a worth-while read.

vmh1928 6y ago

Like when people in the WTC were told to stay put. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2001/sep/16/september11.usa3 https://www.theguardian.com/world/2001/sep/16/september11.us...

smogcutter 6y ago

>Break the rules. Officials may try to deter you from using passages, ladders or stairwells. Ignore them. If you need to kick open a door or pick a lock, do it. I learned this lesson on 9/11, as a high school student in lower Manhattan. We were told to sit in our homerooms and wait, while smoke (and god knows what else) enveloped the building. Eventually we were shuffled out of the building and told to keep going north, left entirely to our own devices. I completely understand their reaction, but that doesn’t make it a good one. The authorities don’t necessarily know any more than you do. Their interest in maintaining order is not necessarily aligned with your interest in your own safety. When the shit hits the fan, don’t wait for permission to protect yourself. [obviously this is situational. I’m not advocating climbing over others to be first out the plane or etc]

forgotmypw17 6y ago
Someone I knows knows someone who worked in the second WTC building to be hit. After the first strike, their employer's plan was for everyone to stay in place, but they got the heck out of there. Saved their life.
- mrslave 6y ago
  I saw a man interviewed on TV who was in a very similar situation. He just figured to get out even though there was no real understanding of what had happened to the first tower or knowledge of a threat to the second. The manager gave stay put and calm instructions while we wait for more information, and he just thought to leave via the fire escape stairwell and take the rest of the day off. Amazing.
orev 6y ago
In a situation like that, you only have a choice between really bad options. If everyone ran for the door, people would likely have been hurt or killed due to trampling. If everyone panics, you are guaranteed to have a bad outcome. In your case, staying in place might have allowed the dust to (literally) settle by the time you left the building. Obviously the people in the 2nd tower had a different outcome.

rapnie 6y ago

What I found really disturbing is the 'flight or fright' reaction of people that find themselves in these life or death situations. We all think we will act to save our lives, acting rationally, but apparently there's many people that just freeze in shock, unable to move or do anything even when their lives depend on it. Think I first saw this in a sunken ferry disaster movie, based on real events, where the family says to the son something like "You go, boy", while they stayed to drown with the ship. Really scary.

trhway 6y ago

That is very well applies to the situation when a a societal ship sinks, like say collapse of USSR and the socialist system. Probably also applies in the context of civil wars, ethnic conflicts, etc.

rob74 6y ago

Ignoring the instructions of flight attendants will allow you to get out with your briefcase, but may get others killed. That's the real issue - sacrificing something to help others. As we have seen during the last year, some are not even willing to put up with the minor inconvenience of wearing a mask (which they inflate with horror stories to rationalize it) to help others, so forgive me if I sound cynical...

kstenerud 6y ago

The most important guideline is: Know the safety rules better than the staff, and know WHY those safety rules are in place. Staff are people, and people do stupid things all the time. Unless you know why the rules exist, you're likely to make things worse by disregarding them, and you're guaranteed to amplify any staff screw-ups by following their instructions blindly.

JetSetWilly 6y ago

> Obviously in a modern context, these guidelines don't apply. That's not always true. Look at the Grenfell Tower fire in London. The official advice was for residents to stay in their flats, not panic, and definitely not rush out the building. But of course that was completely the wrong advice and it was much better to follow your instincts and get out than to stay put.

Aeolun 6y ago

> They won't be able to do it if you still have your briefcase, or haven't taken off your shoes as requested. I strongly believe the training to get the plane evacuated in 90 seconds includes a bunch of people doing exactly this.

dxdm 6y ago
Better to train realistic scenarios, and there will always people who do unhelpful things. Doesn't mean you should feel free to add yourself to that list. :)

raldi 6y ago

I once read an article about a guy who repeatedly managed to sneak into places at sporting events he shouldn't be: Down on the field to celebrate with the players that just won the championship, onto the press or VIP-suite level, even into locker rooms. He basically just did what you describe above.