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> That's just outright false. She was terminated, effective immediately. Without taking sides (I don't know the full story to understand who is objectively in

by amf12 6y ago

> That's just outright false. She was terminated, effective immediately. Without taking sides (I don't know the full story to understand who is objectively in the wrong here), that's not completely true. She basically gave an ultimatum - meet my demands or I can work on a last date.[1] It is quite common at big tech that once you resign - officially or unofficially - you could be asked to leave effective immediately. Usually happens when you work in critical areas or moving to a competitor or a disgruntled employee. Could this have been better handled? Maybe, but no matter who was in the right or wrong, she wasn't technically fired. [1] https://twitter.com/timnitGebru/status/1334343577044979712 https://twitter.com/timnitGebru/status/1334343577044979712

Dylan16807 6y ago
Threatening to resign is not resigning. Especially as part of a negotiation, and especially when the threat was to "work on" a last date. She was fired.
- muro 6y ago
  If you threaten to resign, I don't think you should complain if the other side says "ok".
  - Dylan16807 6y ago
    But it's still up to you to resign at that point, or to back down. They can't accept the threat itself as a resignation. That's not how threats work.
    - mustuhfa 6y ago
      I really dont understand this logic. Firstly, there is ample evidence of her toxic behaviour online. (See the exchange with lecun on twitter, absolutely horrible). So its clear she has issues with how to collaborate and communicate. She then goes on to threaten the company she works for. Like wtf? Irrespective of what you want to do in response, act like a professional. If you were a CEO/Manager etc and had someone with toxic behavior come in and threaten you if you didnt comply to their demands, wouldnt you go 'ok, see ya'. I certainly would. Everyone is replaceable. Especially if youre toxic when it comes to dealing with situations you dont agree with
      - Dylan16807 6y ago
        > If you were a CEO/Manager etc and had someone with toxic behavior come in and threaten you if you didnt comply to their demands, wouldnt you go 'ok, see ya'. I certainly would. Which is fine, but that's firing them for acting up. It doesn't really matter what the demands are.

by amf12 6y ago

Dylan16807 6y ago

Threatening to resign is not resigning. Especially as part of a negotiation, and especially when the threat was to "work on" a last date. She was fired.

muro 6y ago
If you threaten to resign, I don't think you should complain if the other side says "ok".
- Dylan16807 6y ago
  But it's still up to you to resign at that point, or to back down. They can't accept the threat itself as a resignation. That's not how threats work.
  - mustuhfa 6y ago
    I really dont understand this logic. Firstly, there is ample evidence of her toxic behaviour online. (See the exchange with lecun on twitter, absolutely horrible). So its clear she has issues with how to collaborate and communicate. She then goes on to threaten the company she works for. Like wtf? Irrespective of what you want to do in response, act like a professional. If you were a CEO/Manager etc and had someone with toxic behavior come in and threaten you if you didnt comply to their demands, wouldnt you go 'ok, see ya'. I certainly would. Everyone is replaceable. Especially if youre toxic when it comes to dealing with situations you dont agree with
    - Dylan16807 6y ago
      > If you were a CEO/Manager etc and had someone with toxic behavior come in and threaten you if you didnt comply to their demands, wouldnt you go 'ok, see ya'. I certainly would. Which is fine, but that's firing them for acting up. It doesn't really matter what the demands are.