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> That smells like authoritarianism. It might surprise you that the entire world is not the US, with a huge "muh freedom" fetish that somehow transcends good

> That smells like authoritarianism. It might surprise you that the entire world is not the US, with a huge "muh freedom" fetish that somehow transcends good sense in every conversation. Just because you don't like it when people judge others for ethically reprehensible practices does not mean that suddenly they're "authoritarian". Even if it did, that wouldn't be a bad thing. Keeping society ethical is hard work and sometimes that means calling people out on their bullshit.

raxxorrax 6y ago
Not from the US but it isn't that hard to imagine where removing "ethically reprehensible" content will lead to, especially with a global perspective. I take the freedom, thank you very much. You think there is a consensus about that and there is mostly on the worst stuff out there, but that is where this common sense ends.
- johannes1234321 6y ago
  > Not from the US but it isn't that hard to imagine where removing "ethically reprehensible" content will lead to, especially with a global perspective. Well, in the US you don't use "ethical" reasons to remove things, but use copyright. The issue however is the same: Globally the understanding of what is "inappropriate" is different and there are overreaching attempts to take things down and different rules globally make this really hard. However "anything goes" can't be the answer either. I guess most could agree on child abuse to be unacceptable. Beyond that it becomes complicated.
- krageon 6y ago
  If all you can see is "nazis everywhere" and "literally nothing allowed", yes it's going to be a disaster. The point is that there are things to discuss and agree about internationally. That's what it means to be an adult and have international politics. Black and white thinking is for primary school, when brains are still too underdeveloped to understand nuance.

raxxorrax 6y ago

Not from the US but it isn't that hard to imagine where removing "ethically reprehensible" content will lead to, especially with a global perspective. I take the freedom, thank you very much. You think there is a consensus about that and there is mostly on the worst stuff out there, but that is where this common sense ends.

johannes1234321 6y ago
> Not from the US but it isn't that hard to imagine where removing "ethically reprehensible" content will lead to, especially with a global perspective. Well, in the US you don't use "ethical" reasons to remove things, but use copyright. The issue however is the same: Globally the understanding of what is "inappropriate" is different and there are overreaching attempts to take things down and different rules globally make this really hard. However "anything goes" can't be the answer either. I guess most could agree on child abuse to be unacceptable. Beyond that it becomes complicated.
krageon 6y ago
If all you can see is "nazis everywhere" and "literally nothing allowed", yes it's going to be a disaster. The point is that there are things to discuss and agree about internationally. That's what it means to be an adult and have international politics. Black and white thinking is for primary school, when brains are still too underdeveloped to understand nuance.