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HomePod has been jailbroken with checkra1n
- Hamuko 6y agoLooks like they might be able to make the HomePod useful before it's available in Europe.
- fredsted 6y agoDoes anyone know why it's not available yet? I'm in Denmark, and while Siri on Watch and iPhone speak Danish, apparently if I buy a HomePod, it'll only work in English.
- kissiel 6y agoIt looks like it's available in countries that have support for apple's speech to text: https://www.apple.com/ios/feature-availability/#siri-neural-text-to-speech https://www.apple.com/ios/feature-availability/#siri-neural-... Kinda sucks. Here in Poland there's no siri in polish. I'd wish apple would give users an option to mark "yeah, I can handle english, sell me the damn device". Same with upcoming fitness service.
- messe 6y agoNot available here in Ireland though. A predominantly english speaking nation.
- mikestew 6y agoOh, but that would EN-GB, which has nearly no similarities to EN-US. No way Apple can sell you a HomePod that would tell you to bring an "umbrella" because it is going to rain today. Though I imagine Apple is more worried about localizing the electrical plug than they are about what to call the large, wheeled vehicles used to haul cargo.
- 1-more 6y agoI think you want en-IE; boy howdy is localization a fraught subject!
- mikestew 6y agoIt's been years since localization has been any defined part of my role, so I thought I'd go Wikipedia[0] just to make sure I didn't screw it up. Should have gone with my gut because Ireland wasn't listed in the page I went to. :-( "I'd swear Ireland has its own code. But Ireland is in GB, right? Or is it just UK, and GB is something else? Aww, screw it, I'm not putting this much effort into a smart arse comment, EN-GB it is." [0]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Language_localisation#Language_tags_and_codes https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Language_localisation#Language...
- Hamuko 6y ago>But Ireland is in GB, right? No, Ireland is in Ireland, which is the island next to Great Britain. Great Britain is England, Scotland and Wales. Those and Northern Ireland are in the United Kingdom, and Great Britain, Ireland and a bunch of irrelevant islands make up the British Isles. The British Isles are in Europe, but the United Kingdom isn't in the European Union, except they kinda still are for the next month and some. But one of the Irelands definitely still is, but the entire island of Ireland isn't fully in the European Union, except that they don't want a hard border despite the fact that it's now one of the outer borders of the EU.
- reaperducer 6y agoBut Ireland is in GB, right? No. But that's a subject we really shouldn't get into here.
- messe 6y agoI mean, I think it's safe to get into matters of geography. Ireland is very much not in Great Britain, and is a separate island. Let's not mention the UK though...
- jmkerr 6y agoIt's available in Ireland, but maybe not to the Irish. As far as I know all of the European Apple online stores ship from Cork, and some of them sell Homepods.
- dewey 6y ago> As far as I know all of the European Apple online stores ship from Cork Not all of them. There's a big warehouse in Czech Republic where all my orders usually come from (To Germany).
- lostlogin 6y agoNot available in New Zealand.
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- kissiel 6y agoThey would need a time machine too. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HomePod https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HomePod I wonder if jailbroken homepod would still do the audio enhancements on the fly with, let's say, spotify. Or the detection of commands in google assistant even while playing music very loud.
- pbronez 6y agoSpotify doesn't currently support HomePod, which is really annoying since the HomePod Mini looks awesome. You can vote for HomePod support on Spotify's community site: https://community.spotify.com/t5/Live-Ideas/iOS-Implement-Native-HomePod-Support/idc-p/5058664 https://community.spotify.com/t5/Live-Ideas/iOS-Implement-Na...
- wool_gather 6y agoFWIW, if you're playing from a computer, there are applications (Rogue Amoeba makes one) that can route the audio from Spotify (or anything) and send it over Airplay. Works great with a HomePod.
- ben174 6y agoIt does. I just tested proximity handoff from iPhone to HomePod.
- pbronez 6y agoDoesn't that essentially just route the audio stream from your phone to the HomePod? You can do the same thing from an AppleTV. That's nice, but not the integration I'm looking for. Spotify support would mean you can ask Siri to play a song from Spotify and it works directly, without using a Spotify app on a second device.
- dewey 6y agoIt's available in Europe, just not in all EU countries.
- Hamuko 6y agoBeing available in three European countries (out of 50) is not really "available in Europe".
- rrrrrrrrrrrryan 6y agoI'm being pedantic, but technically, it literally is "available in Europe." It is not available throughout Europe, however.
- notpiika 6y agoCan the link be switched to https://twitter.com/_L1ngL1ng_/status/1329552467240116236 https://twitter.com/_L1ngL1ng_/status/1329552467240116236, the actual source of the news?
- saagarjha 6y agoEspecially since the source sucks, with “gems” like > Every Apple device, including the T2 security chip, has been jailbroken with checkra1n so far. and “jailbreaking makes your device insecure”.
- p410n3 6y agoJailbreaking DOES break the security model though. Its literally performed to "break the jail". It takes a locked down system and removes the locks, resulting in a system that is more open; to yourself and an attacker alike.
- solarkraft 6y agoJailbreaking uses vulnerabilitities, but doesn't (by itself, of course it allows the user to) introduce any. It even allows you to patch the vulnerability behind you before Apple does officially (see JailbreakMe, 3.0 IIRC).
- Gaelan 6y agoMy understanding, though I'm not sure, is that a "traditional" jailbreak (installing Cydia and such) allows all apps to read/write from the full file system.
- saagarjha 6y agoUsually, yes, but there is no need to actually do that. I would be surprised if the jailbreak presented here installs Cydia.
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- alfyboy 6y agoWhat use cases do you see this having? Just curious
- alfonsodev 6y agoI'm guessing being able to send any audio stream, for example your computer audio, so you can use Spotify or anything playing at your computer. Someone did this without the need of jailbreak for Sonos speakers, although it has some delay so was not good for movies or games.
- thebean11 6y agoYou seriously can't do that on a vanilla homepod? Seems like the most basic feature every bluetooth speaker has. Re: the delay, usually for videos the computer will compensate by delaying the video playback to match the speakers.
- Moeancurly 6y agoWhich makes this jailbreak somewhat moot, for now at least. It makes more sense to buy an inexpensive Bluetooth speaker rather than risk bricking your $300 Homepod that has no data port
- thebean11 6y agoI'm so tempted to jump into the Apple ecosystem, but things like this make it really, really hard. If I buy a $300 speaker I shouldn't need a second, shittier speaker.
- alfonsodev 6y agoYes, once again then convenience of this tight integrations comes with the loss of freedom. I guess the goal is to increase subscriptions to Apple Music at the expense of losing fewer more "demanding" users. I wonder if there would be a case for enforcing companies that use the word "speaker" in their products to allow customers to play whatever they want via bluetooth or jack input.
- SamuelAdams 6y agoAwesome! Now let's turn it into JARVIS.
- spaceinvader_91 6y agoI second this haha
- wizardforhire 6y agoThe meat: “ As it turns out, there’s no escaping the clutches of the ubiquitous checkm8 exploit (and by extension the checkra1n jailbreak)”
- 14 6y agoI still love jailbreaking. I got an iPhone when they first came out in Canada. They guy who sold it convinced me to change my plan to include video messages. When I got home I realized the phone didn’t have the ability to take videos. Those who are unaware there just was no video app when the phone first came out as crazy as that sounds. I started searching how to take a video and to my surprise you can not unless you happen to jailbreak it and use the camera app on cydia. From that point on I saw the benefit of jailbreaking. I am considering jailbreaking again after my device suddenly became blocked from tinder I am a gentleman and not sure why I was banned but it annoyed me and one day will probably jailbreak again just to bypass the ban. I think if the iphones ever fully locked down I would try a different brand.
- jsjohnst 6y ago> Those who are unaware there just was no video app when the phone first came out as crazy as that sounds. Considering it was a poor quality 2 megapixel sensor with fixed focus up until the iPhone 3GS, you weren’t missing much by not having video. Like to put it in perspective, even the photos it took were utterly horrid in comparison to today. But we also need to keep perspective, in 2007-2009 no phone I can think of had a better camera, let alone a mainstream one.
- rangibaby 6y ago> you weren’t missing much by not having video The point is that even though it was not great quality you could do it by using a jailbreak. The other advanced feature I used a jb to do was... add wallpaper to my homescreen
- jsjohnst 6y ago> The point is that even though it was not great quality you could do it by using a jailbreak. A point I did not dispute. Hence why I quoted the part I was referencing, rather than his entire post.
- WanderPanda 6y agoSony Ericsson Cybershot phones had decent cameras back then, at least compared to the initial iPhones
- ngcc_hk 6y agoPromise good audio. Never was. Or were as I have a pair. Lag meant no use of movie sound with Apple TV. I considered these a loser. Can this job save it. Not sure as the smart part is the selling point.
- dejawu 6y agoI hope this leads to some way besides Airplay to play arbitrary audio with no delay. If Apple had just included support for Bluetooth audio (or God forbid, an aux jack) I would've bought two full-sized Homepods to use as computer speakers two months ago.
- semi-extrinsic 6y agoWhat's the trouble with buying any of the competition, if you want those features? You can get a Klipsch R51 PM for quite a bit less than the price of two HomePods. Better audio, Bluetooth, aux, optical, USB, even phono pre-amp in case you have a turntable.
- ctvo 6y agoThe aesthetics mainly. HomePods, for all their flaws, are very decent speakers in a small footprint. They blend in and are very minimalist, in my opinion, and that's important to me.
- semi-extrinsic 6y agoDepends on your taste, I guess. For me this is quite minimalist: https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/41A-xmDb8nL._AC_SY400_.jpg https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/41A-xmDb8nL...
- count 6y agoYes, it depends on taste. Those are just boxes...
- reaperducer 6y agoThey look like the sort of pack-in speakers you got free with a Packard Bell computer in 1993.
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- submeta 6y agoThat it is necessary to jailbreak consumer devices is grotesque. I can totally understand that a car has a software / OS that is locked down. But a consumer device? - Apple is slowly moving the whole industry in a direction where in a couple of decades we can use electronic devices only in a way that the producer wants it to be used. Locking up systems, not allowing departure in any way, taking each and every freedom to tinker with devices we own: despicable. Edit: I absolutely hate Apple‘s vision for computing devices. Don‘t tell me it‘s good for my grandma because she can‘t mess up with her computer. You can build machines that are both easy to use and give us the freedom to do whatever we want to do with them. Extend them, change them, hack them, open them up, change parts, install other OSes, and whatnot.
- Nextgrid 6y ago> a car has a software / OS that is locked down For as long as cars (and other motor vehicles) existed people have been able to work on them including on safety systems such as brakes, and the lack of widespread accidents because of this doesn't support the idea of locking them down now.
- jedberg 6y agoPeople make this argument a lot, but the main counterpoint is that if you sell faulty brakes, it's hard for someone externally to exploit that on a massive scale. If you sell faulty car software, it's easy for someone to exploit that remotely on a massive scale.
- ryukafalz 6y agoHow exactly does blocking car owners from working on their cars stop someone from exploiting them on a massive scale?
- noitpmeder 6y agoI mean if I sell faulty brakes, that could be easily disabled by someone doing something to them physically, it is still pretty hard to disable -everyone's- breaks. I have to go and physically, car by car, break them. With sofware, it is as simple as pushing a faulty OTA update. A large portion of all the cars will _instantly_ be impacted.
- turdnagel 6y agoHopefully this leads to completely reverse engineering AirPlay 2.
- jeromenerf 6y agoIf only apple strategists believed in interoperability as a way to grow their revenue... There is unfortunately no ground for me to contest their current strategy.
- hcurtiss 6y agoAny recommendations for an aesthetic single speaker with high quality audio that takes Airplay, Chromecast, and bluetooth? You know, without having to jailbreak a HomePod? Stunned it has to be this difficult.
- domas 6y agoI'm considering replacing my HomePod with either Denon Home 150 [0] or going DIY route with HiFiBerry DAC [1] [0] https://www.denon.com/en-gb/shop/denonhome/denonhome150 https://www.denon.com/en-gb/shop/denonhome/denonhome150 [1] https://www.hifiberry.com/shop/boards/hifiberry-dac2-pro/ https://www.hifiberry.com/shop/boards/hifiberry-dac2-pro/
- hcurtiss 6y agoThank you for the Denon recommend. That’s an excellent alternative. I wonder why they didn’t elect to also include chromecast.
- jm1234567890 6y agoHow do you jailbreak a homepod with no ports and no input devices?
- mef 6y agohidden 14-pin connector https://www.macrumors.com/2018/02/12/homepod-teardown-ifixit/ https://www.macrumors.com/2018/02/12/homepod-teardown-ifixit...
- bredren 6y agoHas anyone removed the rubber foot and if so was it destructive?
- saagarjha 6y agoI don’t think it is, since the HomePod needs to actually work for that connector to be useful. You may need to stick it back on to “fix” it, though.
- _L1ngL1ng_ 6y agoIt's not destructive, it's held by a few clips and glue. Use hot air to heat up the area and it snaps out.
- sergiomattei 6y agoI've always been so interested in Darwin/iOS/macOS internals yet I can't find any good resources. I find it so interesting how they use that OS across all their devices.
- hugolundin 6y agoI think you would enjoy the http://newosxbook.com/index.php http://newosxbook.com/index.php series.
- sergiomattei 6y agoThis is an amazing resource! Thank you so much.
- bredren 6y agoDoes this create any notable HomeKit or home automation interoperability possibilities? For example, the Lutron Caseta line requires their proprietary bridge——could the HomePod be augmented to remove this dependency?