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The speed of technological development is faster than the speed of societal or legal development. So yes, right now we've woken up in a world that is not so mu
by anvandare 6y ago
The speed of technological development is faster than the speed of societal or legal development.
So yes, right now we've woken up in a world that is not so much cyberpunk as it is techno-feudalism: more and more do you need a presence on the Internet to do things in meatspace... And that presence is by the grace of several feudal lords (Google foremost) - woe betide you should you ever displease them. You do not really own your email adres, your phone (number) or (pretty soon) even your computer. You're merely a serf.
On the plus side, the momentum for legal measurements seems to be increasing. Let's hope they do get broken up. Power, like plutonium, is dangerous if too concentrated. Regardless of where that concentration lies.
- giobox 6y agoI like the term "techno-feudalism" - captures the increasing nationalism over things like technology sales to China by the US etc too, the Tik Tok situation...
- bookofjoe 6y agoSee also: Kindle books; movies "purchased" from Amazon, Apple, et al; Tesla upgrades you paid extra for; I could go on....
- twirlock 6y agoNo actually none of that is remotely comparable to the influence Google wields over our lives.
- NetOpWibby 6y agoThis is precisely why I buy vinyl or music from Bandcamp, and choose the disc version of the PS5. I view my digital purchases as things I am forever renting.
- shrimp_emoji 6y ago... You can't store MP3 files why? You're renting your hard drives, too?
- NetOpWibby 6y agoI meant digital purchases with DRM or inside a digital store like Vudu or Amazon Prime.
- hellotomyrars 6y agoThose discs aren't going to do you much good if you don't have access to or have had access to PSN, since most games ship with a huge day 1 patch to fix all the issues between going gold and the date of sale. Movies/Music/Books can be displayed and played back on damn near anything. Games, especially modern games, exist in both a variable state (constantly revised/updated), but also with a much more limited ability to access the content.
- NetOpWibby 6y agoI lost a small number of games due to PlayStation support not being able to get around the fact that although I purchased some of them via PayPal, I also bought other games with a credit card. They could verify I owned the actual account and I answered all security questions but they still wouldn't fix whatever issue I had (this was at least 5 years ago so I forget particulars). That experience forever turned me off to relying on digital-only. To your points, having a PSN account is necessary but I can always create a new one if need be. Whenever possible, I prioritize non-DRM media for purchase.
- Aeolun 6y agoI have yet to hear about the first amazon account ban. I don’t think they’re really interested in that, since the accounts are almost by definition making them a bunch of money.
- ebiester 6y agohttps://www.cnet.com/news/amazon-banned-this-shopper-then-he-outsmarted-them/ https://www.cnet.com/news/amazon-banned-this-shopper-then-he... talks about it - the primary reason is for excessive returns. Alternatively, there are sellers as well that are more in danger.
- hombre_fatal 6y agoI'm having trouble understanding your point. Leaving aside simply googling it, surely you can't be saying that because you haven't heard of something, it doesn't exist or isn't a threat or isn't worth any concern.
- mistermann 6y agoThat exact "logic" is extremely common in journalism, as well as on most social media platforms including this one. If you think about it, this shouldn't be all that surprising - after all, this is exactly how intuition works, and the human mind runs very much on intuition, people just don't realize it (at the object level).
- edoceo 6y agoI've never heard of intuition so this must false. I'm sure I'd know about it otherwise.
- mistermann 6y agoSometimes I get in a kind of a depressed funk, and then a comment like this comes along to refill my optimism-for-humanity tank.
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- throwanem 6y agoKindle books were actually pretty good, back when they could reliably be liberated. Unfortunately, that's no longer the case. In general, I think that's also a point we can draw from the cyberpunk genre, or maybe from Harry Harrison's old-school prefiguration of it in the Stainless Steel Rat series - the eponymous creature being one well suited to thrive "within the walls" of a society increasingly sclerotized with technocratic bureaucracy, but perhaps equally suited to a life of gnawing through the circumscriptions imposed by competing technofeudalist fiefdoms.
- ultrabenos 6y agoOff-topic, but legitimately purchased Kindle ebooks can still be quickly and easily liberated for the purposes of DRM-free personal backups of owned content. I won't comment on whether Amazon find this acceptable, or if it is legal in any given jurisdiction, but it is definitely possible.
- anvandare 6y agoThankfully it will (probably) never get as bad as Stallman described it[1], but you never know. [1] https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/right-to-read.html https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/right-to-read.html
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- tmd83 6y agoI liked the term too. If you are large and powerful, you are the law and whatever you say works. Hopefully as society matures we learn to establish some form of rules/laws that are sane and empower people. But in every society a small circle of privileged people have always been the norm and despite more wider access to information today it seems like consolidation of power and wealth seems to be trending upward.
- tehjoker 6y agoRules aren't worth the piece of paper they're printed on unless there is an equally powerful force that can set terms. The problem right now is there is no counterbalancing force.
- fjdjsmsm 6y agoTechno-feudalism is exactly what cyberpunk novels were describing. They were dystopias. They were warnings about letting corporations control everything.
- alchemism 6y agoTechno-feudalism and anarcho-syndicalism will form a dynamic balance, if the prophets are to be believed. :-)
- anvandare 6y agoTrue, but so far we just get the bad things (corporatocracy and the the gradual hollowing out of individual liberties) and none of the good things (gene-hacking, neural uplinks, and matrix-avatars) that cyberpunk promised. I demand a refund!
- NetOpWibby 6y agoOT: Please tell me you have a blog, I enjoy the way you write. — I run my own mail server but my VPS provider could be coerced to yank it from me. You’ve made me uncomfortable with revelations. Damn, we’re fucked.
- anvandare 6y agoThank you, but none of my ideas are novel in any way[] and there are far better writers than me already expounding the same points, no need to add to the noise. Stallman, Doctorow, et al. pretty much saw these developments coming years ago and warned about them. [] Every person's thinking and writing is mostly just a pastiche stitched together of thoughts they heard or read from others anyway. (And this is, of course, the meme idea, which is not an original idea itself either)
- Shared404 6y ago> I run my own mail server but my VPS provider could be coerced to yank it from me. I've got two comments on this. Firstly, you're already doing much better than most people. Make frequent backups, and if it comes down to it, you can always point DNS at a new provider. Second, don't put anything on a VPS that you aren't willing to let the VPS provider or whatever Gov. has jurisdiction access. Where email falls on that spectrum for you is of course your own decision.
- sreevisakh 6y agoThere is one more solution. Use a VPS only as an endpoint bastion server. Keep the data and services in your own home server. We need not trust the VPS provider this way. And we can easily recover as long as the domain name and the home server are under your control.
- NetOpWibby 6y agoHaving domain names under my control are a big reason for my excitement for Handshake's/Namebase's existence.
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- xbar 6y agoNot wrong. But even a little plutonium is too dangerous to let my kid play with it. Email? Not quite as much.
- beached_whale 6y agoThis isn't even a tech problem. It's a lack of regulation to give recourse for individuals and lack of ability for them to be treated fairly by businesses. We need to treat companies that put themselves into a position like utilities as utilities. Give individuals actual transparency of why actions where taken, and an ability to appeal these decisions with transparency. It will cost more, but that is ok. What we have now is that the actions have caused real harm and the companies are unwilling to justify them. That's an abuse that needs to be removed through law.
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- zionic 6y agoThis. The power company can’t cancel you for a tweet for a reason.
- beached_whale 6y agoLaws that provide meaningful mechanisms like this would also be a good signal to keep companies from being in such a powerful position. That is good for everyone.
- RonanTheGrey 6y agoI worked at Microsoft for several years about a decade after they lost those famous lawsuits and I can tell you that the company culture around monopoly power and user rights was incredibly well defined. The company was absolutely paranoid about doing anything ever again that would create that set of lawsuits and from what I can tell, in the 8 years since I left MS, that culture is still alive and well. It's probably why MS is the only company I still feel comfortable doing with, among the "tech" companies. The hard slap they got from the government was enough to apparently permanently change the company culture around treatment of users and other businesses. I see a lot of the excesses we see coming out of Google, Twitter, FB, to be a consequence of there being, well, zero consequences for their behavior. They're like petulant children who never learned limits and think it's ok to do whatever they want, no matter who they hurt. That's exactly how you teach children -- give them limits. Ironically, the same rule applies to adults.