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> the reality is barely anyone but aging millennials are keeping 20k songs around in mp3 format. I'm a Zoomer with a decent collection of mp3s[0]. Silicon-Vall

> the reality is barely anyone but aging millennials are keeping 20k songs around in mp3 format. I'm a Zoomer with a decent collection of mp3s[0]. Silicon-Valley types tend to grossly underestimate just how "old-fashioned" the rest of the world is. [0]: [~/Music]$ find . -name "*.mp3" | wc -l 3157

Shared404 6y ago
For other's like us who like to keep local audio files around, check out 'cmus'. It's my current favourite audio player.
- FrobozzElectric 6y ago
  Don't forget about beautiful, messy apps like Airsonic that you host yourself. It's the best solution IMO. You can listen to your whole collection at the quality you want on basically every platform. A fork of pSub is what I use a primary CLI player for it, but the mobile apps are also great. You can cache music locally, so I like to queue up a few albums before I leave the house (not that I do that often nowadays) so I can listen to them while driving without using any precious mobile data.
  - Shared404 6y ago
    I'll have to look it up, sounds like a great addition to a homelab. Thanks!
- lioeters 6y ago
  Looks good! > cmus — C* Music Player > Small, fast and powerful console music player for Unix-like operating systems. https://cmus.github.io/ https://cmus.github.io/ https://github.com/cmus/cmus https://github.com/cmus/cmus ..But apparently no longer in active development? https://github.com/cmus/cmus/issues/856 https://github.com/cmus/cmus/issues/856
  - Shared404 6y ago
    I actually did read through that thread the other day. If I understood it correctly, it looks like it's in a state of transfer to community development.
NamTaf 6y ago
Honestly, I think you inadvertedly prove the OP's point. Given that you used a piped command in the terminal to search your Linux distribution for mp3s, I'd say you're in fact one of the very Silicon-Valley types you mention. I can't think of anyone in their 20s with whom I interact who don't use Spotify, personally. It's all I see amongst the younger colleagues at work. Of that age group outside of work, everyone's 'year in review' music summaries on social media are spotify-generated, and everyone who sends me 'hey check out this song' links are sending them for Spotify (with a few youtube videos I guess). I'm sure there are people, don't get me wrong, but Spotify seems so ubiquitous amongst everyone I know who is in their 20s (even at arm's length) that I definitely believe my library of mp3s and player make me a product of my age and the odd one out.
- h2odragon 6y ago
  Another anecdata point in your support: my search was for '*.flac' and the number was 3,318. My wife and I are both 40s+; she has access to that library on her machine, but prefers Spotify for many reasons. Only weirdos want to own their own (music, video, text) libraries, most others would rather have someone else be responsible for the curation of that portion of their mental space.
  - SPBS 6y ago
    Why is it such a weirdo thing? I don't want to bleed money every month just to listen to music. Or put up with ads. Owning mp3s is the most straightforward way to achieve that.
    - benhurmarcel 6y ago
      Music subscriptions are dramatically cheaper than buying music. Unless you prefer to listen to the same songs for a long time, but that's not representative of most people nowadays.
    - UncleMeat 6y ago
      Owning thousands of mp3s is only really cheaper if you obtained them via pirating. CDs in the 90s and 00s (I haven't seen a CD in a store since then) retailed for $15 and would probably have around 10 songs. A 3000 song library would run you $4500. That's like 40 years of Spotify subscriptions.
MrGilbert 6y ago
I get the feeling that age discrimination is the new "black & white". "Oh, you are born in this decade, so you must be doing X". Yeah, whatever. I'm doing X because I like to do it. I'm an "ageing millenial" per GPs definition (so with mid-30 I'm old?), yet I'm well aware of TikTok and such. I'm so sick of it.
- pantulis 6y ago
  Comparing age with racial discrimination can only be done from privilege. Am I wrong assuming you are white?
  - MrGilbert 6y ago
    > Comparing age with racial discrimination can only be done from privilege. What leads you to this conclusion?
    - pantulis 6y ago
      While I agree with you that age discrimination exist at least in mild form, direct comparison with racial discrimination is excessive. In the extreme case, you won’t get shot by a cop for being old while arguably being black increases that probability. But it’s not only race discrimination at play, there are other possible discriminations also more powerful than age, like gender, income or class. So you put more weight to a discrimination that affects you the most because you probably don’t belong to other categories, hence the guess that you are a white male. I am probably over reacting given the HN demographic and also because you did not do it in bad faith but just wanted to point it out.
      - MrGilbert 6y ago
        > ... but just wanted to point it out. Exactly this. While I get your sentiment, and your assumption is correct, I'd agree to disagree that "one discrimination is worse then another", because (for me) it always boils down to how each individual experiences the discrimination. One simply cannot state that "your discrimination is not as important as mine".

Shared404 6y ago

For other's like us who like to keep local audio files around, check out 'cmus'. It's my current favourite audio player.

FrobozzElectric 6y ago
Don't forget about beautiful, messy apps like Airsonic that you host yourself. It's the best solution IMO. You can listen to your whole collection at the quality you want on basically every platform. A fork of pSub is what I use a primary CLI player for it, but the mobile apps are also great. You can cache music locally, so I like to queue up a few albums before I leave the house (not that I do that often nowadays) so I can listen to them while driving without using any precious mobile data.
- Shared404 6y ago
  I'll have to look it up, sounds like a great addition to a homelab. Thanks!
lioeters 6y ago
Looks good! > cmus — C* Music Player > Small, fast and powerful console music player for Unix-like operating systems. https://cmus.github.io/ https://cmus.github.io/ https://github.com/cmus/cmus https://github.com/cmus/cmus ..But apparently no longer in active development? https://github.com/cmus/cmus/issues/856 https://github.com/cmus/cmus/issues/856
- Shared404 6y ago
  I actually did read through that thread the other day. If I understood it correctly, it looks like it's in a state of transfer to community development.

NamTaf 6y ago

Honestly, I think you inadvertedly prove the OP's point. Given that you used a piped command in the terminal to search your Linux distribution for mp3s, I'd say you're in fact one of the very Silicon-Valley types you mention. I can't think of anyone in their 20s with whom I interact who don't use Spotify, personally. It's all I see amongst the younger colleagues at work. Of that age group outside of work, everyone's 'year in review' music summaries on social media are spotify-generated, and everyone who sends me 'hey check out this song' links are sending them for Spotify (with a few youtube videos I guess). I'm sure there are people, don't get me wrong, but Spotify seems so ubiquitous amongst everyone I know who is in their 20s (even at arm's length) that I definitely believe my library of mp3s and player make me a product of my age and the odd one out.

h2odragon 6y ago
Another anecdata point in your support: my search was for '*.flac' and the number was 3,318. My wife and I are both 40s+; she has access to that library on her machine, but prefers Spotify for many reasons. Only weirdos want to own their own (music, video, text) libraries, most others would rather have someone else be responsible for the curation of that portion of their mental space.
- SPBS 6y ago
  Why is it such a weirdo thing? I don't want to bleed money every month just to listen to music. Or put up with ads. Owning mp3s is the most straightforward way to achieve that.
  - benhurmarcel 6y ago
    Music subscriptions are dramatically cheaper than buying music. Unless you prefer to listen to the same songs for a long time, but that's not representative of most people nowadays.
  - UncleMeat 6y ago
    Owning thousands of mp3s is only really cheaper if you obtained them via pirating. CDs in the 90s and 00s (I haven't seen a CD in a store since then) retailed for $15 and would probably have around 10 songs. A 3000 song library would run you $4500. That's like 40 years of Spotify subscriptions.

MrGilbert 6y ago

I get the feeling that age discrimination is the new "black & white". "Oh, you are born in this decade, so you must be doing X". Yeah, whatever. I'm doing X because I like to do it. I'm an "ageing millenial" per GPs definition (so with mid-30 I'm old?), yet I'm well aware of TikTok and such. I'm so sick of it.

pantulis 6y ago
Comparing age with racial discrimination can only be done from privilege. Am I wrong assuming you are white?
- MrGilbert 6y ago
  > Comparing age with racial discrimination can only be done from privilege. What leads you to this conclusion?
  - pantulis 6y ago
    While I agree with you that age discrimination exist at least in mild form, direct comparison with racial discrimination is excessive. In the extreme case, you won’t get shot by a cop for being old while arguably being black increases that probability. But it’s not only race discrimination at play, there are other possible discriminations also more powerful than age, like gender, income or class. So you put more weight to a discrimination that affects you the most because you probably don’t belong to other categories, hence the guess that you are a white male. I am probably over reacting given the HN demographic and also because you did not do it in bad faith but just wanted to point it out.
    - MrGilbert 6y ago
      > ... but just wanted to point it out. Exactly this. While I get your sentiment, and your assumption is correct, I'd agree to disagree that "one discrimination is worse then another", because (for me) it always boils down to how each individual experiences the discrimination. One simply cannot state that "your discrimination is not as important as mine".