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YouTube Down
- herpderperator 6y agoI have a 2-hour-long YouTube video still open, it's continuing to load as I continue to watch it without issues, but new videos aren't working. That's an interesting clue: the CDN isn't down as some people are implying. Edit 45 min later: Everything appears to be working again, including YouTube TV.
- alexfromapex 6y agoYeah YouTube music works for me but no videos will play
- alishan-l 6y agoSame here. Must be a database of some sort.
- jacobwilliamroy 6y agoLet's see if you make it to the end. I usually have quite a bit of a video downloaded after a few minutes, to the point where I can unplug my network and still watch for a few minutes.
- herpderperator 6y agoI am watching the network tab continually request from https://r3---sn-n4v7sney.googlevideo.com/videoplayback https://r3---sn-n4v7sney.googlevideo.com/videoplayback and succeed each time. There is hardly any buffer, it's all loading successfully in real time.
- Minor49er 6y agoI noticed that the mobile UI was updated today. I'm guessing that it's a botched rollout of some bigger changes
- yreg 6y agoMany other services (Google Play, Twitter, …) are affected as well although not as much as YouTube.
- girst 6y agogiven that the outage affects redirector.googlevideo.com and youtube.com/get_video_info, but as you say, not the f3---<something>.googlevideo.com domains serving the actual streams, i suspect they have problems with the database storing where streams are actually hosted.
- userbinator 6y agoIn other words, the metadata service. The actual content servers are still up, so provided you know where the content is, you can still access it. (Does anyone still remember when you could easily download videos from YT by simply replacing "watch" with "get_video" in the URL? I miss those days... when corporate greed hadn't gotten to where it is today.)
- shmerl 6y agoDASH isn't driven by greed really, it simply allows flexibly and seamlessly switching audio and video streams to vary quality. You can change resolution, and it still plays things continuously for you. But it makes it hard to download, unless you stitch all that on the receiving end, something that youtube-dl does. Greed and etc. were already piled on top of that with DRM, obfuscation and the like.
- lovelyviking 6y agoyoutube videos are drm protected?
- boogies 6y agoThat’s what the RIAA argued in the request that made their member Microsoft take down youtube-dl.
- charrondev 6y agoSome of them are. IIRC the whole fiasco with YouTube-dl was because the repository had tests indicating how to decode DRM protected videos.
- doctoboggan 6y agoI too was able to watch a 2.5 hour video to completion, while not being able to load new videos during or after that.
- dragonsngoblins 6y agoCan confirm. I have a video which was already open and still plays. Interestingly I closed the tab and opened that video again and it still worked. I'm in Sydney
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- lovelyviking 6y agoAlso long video 2.5hrs. Still plays after rebooting router, closing and reopening browser
- kyrra 6y ago(googler, opinions are my own. I know nothing about youtube specifically) Youtube likely has lots of moving parts to host all the different systems. Video content, search, browse, player, etc... could all be different bits. And it's also fun to know that video content itself may not be hosted directly by Google, as you could get it from the GGC (Google Global Cache)[0]. When you have a system as big as Youtube, you need to think about all the different ways you can slice different parts of the service. If any of those parts could be more optimized by having the data stored/sorted in some different way, it likely is. [0] https://support.google.com/interconnect/answer/9058809?hl=en https://support.google.com/interconnect/answer/9058809?hl=en
- sillysaurusx 6y agoDoes anyone want to try to calculate how much money google is losing every second YouTube is down? It must be astronomical, on the order of Amazon.
- gregsadetsky 6y agoAmazon's revenue is ~10k/second. Based on a recent 15B/year YouTube revenue figure I found, that would mean ~$500/second.
- cambalache 6y agoThat's "peanuts" then, a couple of millions for `~1h down.
- dodobirdlord 6y agoEarly evening in North America is probably particularly valuable time.
- chki 6y agoAs a YouTube Premium user I will be supporting them through this tough time.
- augusto-moura 6y agoIs just a temporary degradation Probably...
- augusto-moura 6y agoIs just a temporary degradation, probably... Edit: Err, probably more serious
- aaomidi 6y agoAnd cue all other major services going down in the next few days.
- AnimalMuppet 6y agoI'm not at that level of paranoia yet. In fact, I'm a long way from it. If it happens, though, my paranoia is going to climb dramatically...
- sebmellen 6y agoSame here in socal, and look at those report numbers. Baseline 30, now almost 190,000 reports. I wonder what could be going on to cause this level of global service degradation. Perhaps related, I uploaded a video earlier today that took nearly 4 hours to process, though it was only ten minutes long.
- oedoedxef 6y agoMicroservices in action! Can visit the site, see comments, but can't play videos. Go to twitter, check the latest tweets containing "youtube down", thousands of results coming. Now I know why I used to download all my favorite videos to USB/SSD!
- augusto-moura 6y agoMicroservices out of action in this case
- oedoedxef 6y agoSelect microservices in action! If AWS/GCP/Azure are taking score, then this isn't an outage because DNS resolves a-ok!
- tcbasche 6y agoWhat on Earth are you on about
- oedoedxef 6y agoGCP doesn't consider it to be an "outage" if you are able to access a website (e.g "youtube.com") and get a 200 OK response. So, when you go to the status page for the cloud service, it will show green checkmarks, meaning everything is ok. But, the video you are trying to watch won't load, and will throw a 500 error. But this isn't considered downtime, for them.
- tcbasche 6y agoAh I see. Yeah I've had nothing but grief with those outage detectors. They seem to be really optimistic and not take into account the web of CDN's that contribute to the 'uptime' of a website
- sebmellen 6y agoSame here in socal, and look at those DownDetector report numbers[0]. Baseline 30, now almost 200,000 reports. I wonder what could be going on to cause this level of global service degradation. Perhaps related, I uploaded a video earlier today that took nearly 4 hours to process, though it was only ten minutes long. [0]: https://downdetector.com/status/youtube/ https://downdetector.com/status/youtube/
- jameshe 6y agoAnother reference, but the /r/youtube reddit thread[0] for this issue has users reporting globally [0]: https://old.reddit.com/r/youtube/comments/jsjwzq/youtube_down/ https://old.reddit.com/r/youtube/comments/jsjwzq/youtube_dow...
- jedberg 6y agoSo is speedtest.net. I wonder how they're related (if at all)
- jameshe 6y agoSeems like just the video player is down - homepage loads with thumbnails, and when you click on a video, everything but the video player renders. What I find interesting is that scrolling through a video still displays closed captions and even the thumbnail preview of the timestamp you're hovering over. Curious if anyone know what causes something like this?
- jedberg 6y agoCaptions and thumbnails come from a different part of the CDN. Same with Netflix. The videos come from devices dedicated to large files, the captions and thumbnails come from a CDN designed for small files.
- rasz 6y agothumbnails both static and animated are served from i.ytimg.com/vi/ thumbnail preview is also server from i.ytimg.com/sb/ videos however come from redirector.googlevideo.com/videoplayback
- exabrial 6y agoWas just about to post this... pretty crazy
- jedberg 6y agoSo is speedtest.net. I wonder how they're related (if at all)
- treeman79 6y ago190,000 people running a speed test at the same time. Just a guess.
- augusto-moura 6y agoSounds plausible, my first guess when youtube went down was that my connection was messed up
- OGWhales 6y agoSo mine both restored working at the same exact second. speedtest and youtube. Just saying...
- treeman79 6y agoOh I’ve had my internet troubles fixed several times by going to that domain. Saw one guy write a script to ping it every 15 minutes. Now to be fair, When in a meeting, I’ve al had to track down the kids and all devises that could possibly access YouTube. After a really bad hour of Zoom; I leaned that you can watch YouTube on the switch. Clever kids. I locked away a 10 year kindle just out of principe for that one.
- paulie_a 6y agoMost routers support some form of qos
- jacobwilliamroy 6y agoYou can firewall their devices. I used to do that to my dad's cloud-based cameras back when I was in highschool. He never figured it out. Always assumed it was the ISP's fault.
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- penagwin 6y agoI vpn'd around, this appears to be global. While reading something unrelated my video suddenly started playing. I think it's load balancer related for whatever is serving their videos EDIT: Once you have a connection you appear to keep it the entire way through (at least it did for me with youtubedl). Something related to connection queueing...
- rasz 6y agoyep, had long video opened (in mplayer) when this started. I stopped it while reading your post, trying to reconnect results in 502.
- birdyrooster 6y agoDowndetector seems like a great place to advertise. You have a bunch of people who were forced to abandon the provider of whatever type of service that your company may offer. What a great opportunity to show customers your competing product.
- augusto-moura 6y agoMaybe for other types of service yes, I find difficult to plug a alternative to YouTube, other type of streaming services maybe? Netlfix etc
- Forge36 6y agoVudu, Spotify, Pandora. I think there's a wide enough overlap that plenty of people could say "give us a try" when YouTube goes down.
- augusto-moura 6y agoYeah... But you still don't get the content from the youtube creators that you follow, usually I go for youtube just to see a few selected channels
- mr_toad 6y agoVimeo is my first stop when I can’t get it on YouTube.
- augusto-moura 6y agoThe problem is that most of my subscribed channels are not in Vimeo, so I lose a lot of meaningful content
- hetspookjee 6y agoI wonder why syndication is not more of a thing. Surely there must be a simple tool to upload your video to multiple platforms at once?
- eddytrex_ 6y agoYoutube music seems to be down too.
- chrisjc 6y agoand youtube tv.
- jtchang 6y agoWas wondering so looked up how much YouTube lost per second. > YouTube ads generated $15.15 billion in revenue in fiscal year 2019. So plugged into wolfram alpha: https://www.wolframalpha.com/input/ https://www.wolframalpha.com/input/? i=15.15+billion+dollars+per+number+of+seconds+in+a+year They lose about $480 per second or $1.7MM per hour. Yikes.
- jedberg 6y agoAnd we know that it isn't flat throughout the day. I imagine this is probably peak earning time for them, assuming they bulk of the revenue is US based.
- drilldrive 6y agoWhy MM, is it the standard for million akin to "k" is for thousand?
- jacobwilliamroy 6y agoMM looks like "million million" to me, which is the old standard for billion but nowadays a billion is just a thousand million and a million million is a trillion and I am constantly feeling frustrated about how wasteful we are with words for big numbers. But I think in this context MM is a million.
- drilldrive 6y agoThat was my exact thoughts seeing MM too yeah, the Roman M symbol meaning thousand clears it up though. Just a historical oddity.
- AnimalMuppet 6y ago"M" is the roman numeral for thousand. It is therefore ambiguous. Especially when dealing with money, you really don't want a million to be confused with a thousand.
- Itsdijital 6y agoMM means mil mil or 1000 1000. Its the roman numeral for 1,000,000 and typically used today in finance.
- oedoedxef 6y agoSo we've already broken 5 9's of uptime, will we also break 4 9's as well?
- commandpaul 6y agoBack now in India
- commandpaul 6y agoIt's been down for the last 10 minutes again
- jacobwilliamroy 6y agoOn client side looks like requests for the video stream return 502 'bad gateway'. I actually get back a little webpage it says: 502. That’s an error. The server encountered a temporary error and could not complete your request. Please try again in 30 seconds. That’s all we know.
- jraph 6y ago> XXX. That’s an error. > > [...]. That’s all we know How old is this? I think I've always seen this error message from Google. It's at least 15 years old.
- xbar 6y agoStill dead in California.
- stonepresto 6y ago502 bad gateway (21s response time) for redirector.googlevideo.com
- lightlyused 6y agoVideo playback just spinning here.
- ATsch 6y ago5 bucks on BGP
- toast0 6y agoPossibly, but the pages and ads load fine, just the videos are broken, so I'd take your bet (idiomatically; I'm not a betting person).
- ATsch 6y agoThat makes sense to me, because dynamic pages are not served from a CDN, which do a lot more BGP and routing trickery that could go wrong.
- toast0 6y agoThat's fair, but Google's BGP errors tend to be global. To my knowledge they've never killed their CDN and not everything else. (I have no non-public knowledge, I just pay attention). Will be looking forward to their report.
- jacobwilliamroy 6y agoI get a 502 error trying to load the actual video stream
- rajamaka 6y agoDouble down on DNS
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- chrismarlow9 6y agoTriple down on https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2016/09/someone_is_lear.html https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2016/09/someone_is_le...
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- zzapplezz 6y agoIT'S BACK
- LeoPanthera 6y agoPages load, but videos don't.
- jedberg 6y agoCaptions, thumbnails, webpage html, etc. come from a different part of the CDN. Same with Netflix. The videos come from devices dedicated to large files, the captions and thumbnails come from a CDN designed for small files.
- vienarr 6y agomy browser shown an CORS related error, its weird
- ATsch 6y agoCORS errors are false positives for a large amount of causes. For example, if loading a website causes an 502 or other error, that might not set the required CORS header, thus making it illegal for javascript to access the response in a number of ways.
- croes 6y agoToo bad, the popup for youtube premium still works.
- wongarsu 6y ago"Do you want videos to continue playing in the background?" is an even more annoying ad when the video isn't playing at all
- adamtulinius 6y ago.. and I just managed to get the YouTube app on Android to play an ad. That's two for two of the annoying things that are still (sorta) working. ;)
- rossdavidh 6y agoPlus, the comments are still there!
- replwoacause 6y agoStill down in TX. Noticing other sites offline as well.
- chrisjc 6y agoGoogle cloud (GCP) outage maybe?
- kparaju 6y agoTheir dashboard says everything is up: https://status.cloud.google.com/ https://status.cloud.google.com/
- chrisjc 6y agoI remember a time when AWS went down and their status page said everything was fine. I think it had something to do with static content hosted on S3. I wonder if Google is have their moment :)
- SteveNuts 6y agous-east-1 could literally be wiped off the map by a meteor and the AWS status page would show yellow triangle with "Elevated API error rates" for several days
- kparaju 6y ago"It wasn't completely down because we had one rack in AZ A which was not impacted because we launched it to space on a Blue Origin rocket and forgot to remove the us-east-1 label."
- sumguysr 6y agoGoogle Play Store also appears unable to download apps, in Maryland at 7:40p EST.
- dalmo3 6y agoSame in New Zealand.
- chaos_a 6y agothe site loads fine for me but their content CDN seems to have given up on serving videos. The play store appears to not be serving any downloads. Sounds like some serious CDN issues. https://downdetector.co.nz/status/google-play/ https://downdetector.co.nz/status/google-play/
- tpkahlon 6y agoWhat a moment!
- girst 6y agodoing a `curl -v https://redirector.googlevideo.com https://redirector.googlevideo.com` (the host you'll connect to before getting redirected to the actual mp4/m4a streams) opens a tls connection (and gives a cert), but it then hangs for two minutes, before returning a 502. i'd wager some database storing info about the streams crashed :^D (given that it also crashes on /, it's more likely something else)
- birdyrooster 6y agoI remember hearing something like Google Global Cache proxies requests to Google datacenters so that retransmit times, due to last mile issues, are lower since packets do not need to travel all the way to the datacenter. My guess is that they might do HTTP TLS termination there, and when the backend failed to respond in time returned 502.
- girst 6y agoyep. thinking it over, that makes more sense. amended my comment
- girst 6y agoand now youtube.com/get_video_info, the undocumented endpoint for querying (among other things) streaming urls, is broken as well. returns "Video ID is invalid." or "An error occurred. Please try again later."
- steveseguin 6y agoTurns out Youtube-DL was being used by YouTube also. ;)
- m1117 6y agoWorks for me now.
- PieUser 6y agoInteresting how Instagram was also down for multiple days just recently [0].. [0] https://www.businessinsider.in/tech/apps/news/instagram-down-users-complain-of-frozen-timelines-and-likes/articleshow/79146012.cms https://www.businessinsider.in/tech/apps/news/instagram-down...
- kparaju 6y agoFWIW, I don't think this YouTube outage has anything to do with the Instagram outage you are referring to.
- floatingatoll 6y agoCould you share with us what "Interesting" means to you? I wasn't able to interpret what it means without additional explanation.
- MrRiddle 6y agoStill down in Serbia.
- bsimpson 6y agoGoogle Play Music/YouTube Music are slow to load streams for me, but do eventually play. EDIT: just kidding - playback is intermittently hanging now.
- peterburkimsher 6y agoDown in New Zealand. Perhaps a failed algorithm update with the intention of breaking youtube-dl?
- lightlyused 6y agoI was suspecting something similar since I run heavy ad blocking.
- II2II 6y agoIf so, it is an amazing fail. On my end: Videos viewed via website since it went down: 0 Videos downloaded via youtube-dl since it went down: 2 (Granted, there were plenty of retries by youtube-dl.)
- WantonQuantum 6y agoThat was my thought too.
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- balbatross 6y agoYoutube-DL is the only working part about youtube right now. What a world. FOSS ftw
- yreg 6y agoWhy? Do we have any reason to think YouTube is unhappy about youtube-dl?
- 1-6 6y agoDarn, needed to watch Tucker Carlson.
- dang 6y agoHey could you please stop posting unsubstantive comments? You've been doing it a lot lately and we ban that sort of account, because we're trying for something different here. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
- bwilli123 6y agodown across australia
- yreg 6y agoDowndetector also shows increased error rates for Search, Play, Facebook, Netflix, Twitter, Spotify, Twitch… What’s going on?
- TrackerFF 6y agoMore users / higher loads due to people being stuck inside? edit: I assumed you meant more in general over the past weeks or months, not right now - if that's the case. But those are indeed some interesting patterns, that so many websites are getting the same spikes.
- sebmellen 6y agoThat can't be it. These issues are all coinciding and if you look at the graphs they all started at the same time. This points to a lower level networking issue somewhere.
- resfirestar 6y agoI think it's just because Downdetector is getting tons of traffic which makes it think people are having more issues than usual with virtually everything. I haven't heard any actual people say Spotify, Twitter, or Twitch are down.
- yreg 6y agoThere are reports on reddit about inability to download apps from Play Store, but I cannot verify. Doesn’t Downdetector count only users who click on “I have a problem with [service]”? It would seem dumb if all charts moved together any time there is a major outage of a single service.
- indecisive_user 6y agoOh so that's what that was. I just ran into that issue trying to download a few different apps an hour ago but figured it was my phone. Something is definitely up, too much of a coincidence for these issues to be happening at the same time
- vxxzy 6y agoSorry... I think I broke YouTube when I converted my Google Music account over to YT. Happened at the exact same time! /s (but really at the same time)
- jiggawatts 6y agoDid you register as "First name: Null" and "Second name: [object Object]"?
- abdusco 6y agoBobby tables strikes again :/
- leifmetcalf 6y agoBack now in NZ
- waspentalive 6y agoStill down for me in Sacramento CA
- millzlane 6y agoIt's working for me on the East Coast.
- jacekm 6y agoIt's officially confirmed: https://twitter.com/TeamYouTube/status/1326681978037444608 https://twitter.com/TeamYouTube/status/1326681978037444608
- StavrosK 6y agoGotta love that PornHub reply: https://imgz.org/igMu9iLo https://imgz.org/igMu9iLo
- oars 6y agoSorry it might be due to my age, but I don't understand this. What's the meaning behind the "Stonks" photo they posted?
- quantumRolls 6y agoIt's used to express expected financial gain
- cepp 6y agoSome context: https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/stonks https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/stonks
- mrebus 6y agoIt just means punhub is gonna profit from youtube being down. ie stocks("stonks") rise
- boogies 6y agoBut https://nitter.net/punhubonline https://nitter.net/punhubonline doesn’t have any videos that I can see.
- augusto-moura 6y agohttps://knowyourmeme.com/memes/stonks https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/stonks
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- christoph 6y agoLook at the charts on downdetector homepage - multiple major sites all got hit by something simultaneously and are all trending back down almost identically.
- arielweisberg 6y agoElection production freeze ending?
- ajay-d 6y agoYoutube TV is down for me too
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- lovelyviking 6y agoRecalling mr.Stallman. This is a good reminder about what can happen with all of your online projects/ data/disk storage/letters/photos/notes once it stops working ...I never stored things online.
- 1-6 6y agoAir gap and cold storage.
- krapp 6y agoI would hope most content creators aren't using Youtube as a primary storage medium. It's not as if the site forces them to delete their original copy after uploading, after all.
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- cesarb 6y agoDo you have an idea how much disk space the original copy (keeping in mind that it's always in the highest resolution available) takes? If the content creator has limited disk space (and many people do not have the money to keep buying external disks), it's not hard to imagine the original copy being removed to free enough space to create more content. Also, even if it was not deleted on purpose, there's a higher chance of the original copy of older videos getting lost (for instance, if it was stored in an external disk which was lost in a flood). And there are also the videos where the "original copy" was on YouTube itself: unless you have a setup to also record locally (or mirror to another site like twitch), streaming videos are only recorded on YouTube.
- lovelyviking 6y agoIn the light of the recent events with Apple when you cannot even run programs on your own computer without problems if Apple server doesn't allow it, perhaps some downvoters should give another thought on this
- hkab 6y agoit works now edit: it's down again, i can't even see the play button
- WantonQuantum 6y agoNot working for me yet. (Australia)
- geomark 6y agoDown in Thailand at the moment.
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- mbay 6y agoMixcloud is down as well. CDN is my bet.
- gonational 6y agoBitChute is down also. Unless BitChute is hosted in Google Cloud and this is just a Google Cloud problem, I have a feeling something major is being censored.
- techload 6y agoInterestingly, trying to install the Chrome browser now will fail.
- secondcoming 6y agoStill down in Scotland
- karmakaze 6y agoI know there's a whole "infrastructure as code" and "immutable infrastructure" thing happening, but how about "revertible"?
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- baybal2 6y agoI wonder if it is due to Alibaba's 11.11 indirectly DDOSing them because of so much new livestreaming load.
- LargoLasskhyfv 6y agoOh! And I thought it was something with my setup. Didn't want to fiddle with it atm, and just closed it. Phew! :)
- rasz 6y agoredirector.googlevideo.com/videoplayback works again, but it looks like they just lost metadata servers. No metadata loads on video pages, but if you happen to have pages opened from the time they still worked you can play videos fine. EDIT: and its all back up to working
- justicezyx 6y agoGmail mails cannot be loaded either. While the frontpage seems working.
- Kye 6y agoCould this be related to people running a Takeout after the Photos announcement? https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25060973 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25060973
- ramosu 6y agoSometimes I wonder why other big tech companies don't even try to create something to compete with YouTube. YT have been the only player in the game for far too long.
- MattGaiser 6y agoYouTube is barely profitable/not profitable and probably wouldn’t be without the Google ad ecosystem. Video isn’t cheap.
- MetaDark 6y agoHuh, weird. I was just able to start a video with youtube-dl + mpv (it took a few tries), but I still can't access anything from the website.
- balbatross 6y agoYoutube DL and PeerTube here we come
- mlang23 6y agoCool, I came here to confirm that YT broken and not my local setup :-) HN is pretty reliable sometimes.
- taf2 6y agoWith the YouTube app I figured out we can watch new videos by starting a download to the local device... my 3 year old was starting to get very nervous that our bedtime routine was going to be disrupted
- okrad 6y agoI’m able to successfully get a video to load and play by selecting it from the recommended videos of a video that fails to load. Edit: looks like it might be back up now.
- dmingod666 6y agoThis will be interesting and humbling for 'resilient services' advocates.. Nodes can be down but services will not go down.. I'd want to know what caused this. I'm guessing they're running on kubernetes, but it too early to tell what actually must have failed.. clearly there are points of failure and not sufficient backups to that point of failure..
- aflag 6y agoI'd be surprised. I don't think kubernetes is the main platform google uses to deploy their stuff.
- Xorlev 6y agoIt's not a secret that we use Borg, you can read about it online.
- dmingod666 6y agoYep, ofcourse it's borg and not kubernetes.
- colesantiago 6y agoI thought that using kubernetes would have solved these issues of high availability no? seems like these web services always have to go own eventually.
- vienarr 6y agoSouth East Asia region seems to back to normal
- yreg 6y agoBack up for me in central Europe.
- adys777 6y agoIf you’re having trouble watching videos on YouTube right now, you’re not alone –We’ll follow me @adys.7 for updates.
- Medicalidiot 6y agoThis is why I was having issues watching Youtube 1.5 hours ago. I thought it was my internet, kept doing all kinds of stuff because I was having slow internet in general.
- dvduval 6y agoI was trying to load a workout video, and it worked on my phone but I wanted to cast it to my TV. I turned off/on my router and Wi-Fi, reset chromecast, restart the phone, restarted the laptop. I was about to just try to do it from my laptop, did a quick survey of the home network, and then the TV started working again. Haha my workout was delayed about 20 or 30 minutes
- soheil 6y agoNow that YouTube is back up I take this opportunity to put this thread to a good use and ask what does it take to create an alternative to YouTube? Would love your opinions/wish list/must haves.
- Mountain_Skies 6y agoThe folks at MindGeek probably can answer that better than anyone.
- soheil 6y agop0rn is not really an alternative to YT
- brewdad 6y agoFirst, collect a few billion dollars....
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- soheil 6y agoDo you have any evidence for that?
- manquer 6y agoBuilding the tech part of product is not challenging part. Distribution has always been historically expensive for any content. While digital distribution is cheaper than ever, B/W costs for a product like YT is enormous . To make unit economics to any sense, you will need to spin your own CDN and buy b/w from other CDNs when that it is cheaper. For your own CDN, you are looking at few hundred PoPs and thousands of peering agreements with ISPs in each geography maybe lease cables too . This is a substantial investment. Even if do all this you still have to compete with Google on android where they have a distinct advantage, YT is pre-installed in billions of devices and user account already activated. You will have to pay OEMs a lot of money to get the same kind of user base pre-installed and still do your own user activation. There is a reason why nobody is trying seriously. the next largest competitors DailyMotion and Youku are 1% of YT size.
- wglb 6y agoNo it is not. Flagged.
- llacb47 6y agoWhy so serious?
- dboreham 6y agoBack up. Back to watching Janey Godley videos..
- sjg007 6y agoYouTube music never stopped working.
- ashneo76 6y agoThis is why youtube-dl is needed.
- nonbirithm 6y agoWith the amount of attention around this outage, it feels like YouTube has become completely ubiquitous in modern society. I can't imagine a future in which YouTube just ceases to exist. The company has already become tied to the livelihoods of so many people, and has spawned too many significant subcultures. It's a strange feeling to be alive just after all of the significant technology companies were created and started to gain traction. YouTube has only existed for fifteen years, but it might continue to exist for centuries. The demand that has arisen in people to watch videos online is probably not reversible so long as maintaining a video streaming service is still physically possible. If not YouTube, something else would probably fill in such a void if it ever appears, barring the Apocalypse. It gives me a lot of conflicting feelings. Twenty years ago, few people would have known they wanted the unique content that YouTube offered that wasn't available at the time, like livestreamers or swathes of content about every single plane crash or minor video game mechanic that can be talked about. But now, thousands have become hooked on them. I can't remember the details, only that I've watched them at some point. I wonder where the time would have went if we were not enterprising enough to invent big data and portable streams and engagement metrics. And for me personally, I can say that I "like" a lot of content, but I'm reasonably certain that's the kind of thing some portion of drug addicts would say about their habits. Not much of it actually helps me.
- Lammy 6y agoIt's an incredible surveillance system in so many ways. Only a few DASH video segments ever get cached locally, so even re-watching an old favorite video involves making requests that give away my identity, geographic location, and current interest.
- tsomberi 6y agoRight. What youtube does to the audience is disgusting. What it does to creators is much worse. When a channel does well, the channel owner starts thinking, he can quit his day job and go fulltime as a youtuber. They borrow money and invest huge sums in building a studio. Then, they realize that they need to post not just regularly but often. You can feel that they are getting burned out. Sometimes, there will be a post titled "life update" where they will hint at it but will soon succumb to the fact they have no way out. They have to post a rate that is worse than torture. Sometimes, Youtube gets upset or somebody takes offense and makes a complaint. The channel suffers a steep fall in traffic. The channel owner complains but gets no response.
- bluedino 6y agoI wonder how many little children were throwing fits because YouTube was down. And I mean literal children like my friends toddlers with tablets.
- nloladze 6y agoOkay, but why was Youtube down?
- dredmorbius 6y agoReuters: YouTube back up after worldwide outage "We're so sorry for the interruption. This is fixed across all devices & YouTube services," YouTube said in a tweet https://bit.ly/36r4sjz https://bit.ly/36r4sjz, without explaining what had caused the outage. Google did not respond to a Reuters request for comment on the outage. https://www.reuters.com/article/us-youtube-outages/youtube-back-up-after-worldwide-outage-idUSKBN27S02S https://www.reuters.com/article/us-youtube-outages/youtube-b... YouTube's tweet: https://nitter.net/TeamYouTube/status/1326709701526974464 https://nitter.net/TeamYouTube/status/1326709701526974464
- anderspitman 6y agoOn the technology side, I think we're pretty close to the point where small startups can create video hosting platforms. For low traffic, running them through ffmpeg and dropping a <video> tag works pretty well. For higher traffic, I think something like BunnyCDN can be used for a reasonable cost. But the technology isn't the problem. The problem is nobody is going to use your platform. We need to decouple discovery from hosting. We need a slick, simple aggregator that lets people submit video URLs from multiple platforms, then handles recommendations. If your video has an equal chance of blowing up regardless of where it's hosted, it opens the door for competition with YouTube.
- AntiImperialist 6y agoA lot of people who have been banned from having the wrong opinions would like to host their videos somewhere... and some already do. A useful app that I can think of is one that supports subscribing to various independent video publishing websites... but aggregates them in one app.
- IntelMiner 6y agoWhat "wrong opinions" did they have that were so egregious as to get banned?
- anderspitman 6y agoIf it doesn't support the big boys (ie YouTube), I don't see it going anywhere. And the only interface I'm aware of for subscribing in a way YT doesn't control is the URL, which is just fine with me.
- wodenokoto 6y agoI recently signed up for Viaplay streaming, and found the whole thing to work much worse than Youtube or Netflix. I think those 2 are actually leading the pack because they consider themselves technology companies.
- warlord1 6y agoHonestly, people should be double-uploading videos to BitChute. We all instinctively hate Google, and distrust them already so their demise is sure.
- tsomberi 6y agoYou should double-upload only if you donate to Bitchute. Otherwise, you will overload their limited resources.
- dfcowell 6y agoThe most interesting thing about the YouTube outage for me was that attempting to play a video would result in my cooling fans spinning up to max while the loading spinner looped in the background. Closing the tab they spun down to normal levels. There wasn’t anything unusual about my CPU behavior when this happened, I can only assume it was GPU or some other part of the system (unfortunately I was too busy to do more than basic troubleshooting at the time.)
- rasz 6y agosocialblade seems to be broken now for all searches of channels not already in their database.