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Why the assumption that its terrorist and not a state sanctioned attack?
by Larrikin 6y ago
Why the assumption that its terrorist and not a state sanctioned attack?
- sudosysgen 6y agoIf we're honest, it's neither. It's 1000% profit-orientated.
- Johnjonjoan 6y agoI think you just accurately described most of North Korea's cyber attacks. Not to say that they are the culprit; just that state sponsored and and money driven aren't necessarily exclusive.
- toomanybeersies 6y agoCyber attacks are probably the least interesting enterprise that North Korea is involved in [1] They're also involved quite heavily in the illegal drug trade and bootlegging cigarettes and alcohol, using their embassies and diplomats as a distribution network, as well as counterfeiting currency and pharmaceuticals, running an international restaurant chain [2], building statues for tinpot dictators [3], shipping citizens off to Russia as "contract workers", smuggling ivory, trafficking arms, and previously leased out embassy buildings in Berlin to a hostel [4] [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_Korea%27s_illicit_activities https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_Korea%27s_illicit_activi... [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pyongyang_(restaurant_chain) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pyongyang_(restaurant_chain) [3] https://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-35569277 https://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-35569277 [4] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Embassy_of_North_Korea,_Berlin https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Embassy_of_North_Korea,_Berlin
- BlueTemplar 6y agoYeah, fucking North Korean forced labor camps in Poland (!) in the middle of the European Union. It's mind-boggling !
- OpticalWindows 6y agoMost state sponsored terrorism is profit-oriented
- HenryKissinger 6y agoThe expression "state sponsored terrorism" is vague and subject to a lot of biases. For what it's worth, most state-sanctioned cyberattacks are _not_ profit oriented. They rather aim to disrupt the operations of an organization (see: American cyberattacks against ISIL), establish deterrence (see: the US allegedly planting digital "bombs" in Russia's networks), collect intelligence (see: the OPM hack). The exception being North Korea, a state that conducts cyberattacks for the explicit purpose of making money.
- hanniabu 6y agoWell I hope they don't request bitcoin since the US recently made it illegal to make cryptocurrency ransomware payments: https://www.coindesk.com/ban-all-ransomware-payments-bitcoin https://www.coindesk.com/ban-all-ransomware-payments-bitcoin
- ethanbond 6y agoNot true. Ransomware attacks have become top cover for more targeted attacks that happen in the chaos. See NotPetya.
- SimbaOnSteroids 6y agoThese are not mutually exclusive.
- djsumdog 6y agoTrue. The United States is the largest state sponsor of terrorism in the world (School of the Americas, Bay of Pigs, Iranian-Contra, Operation AJAX, COINTELPRO, Operation Mockingbird, United Fruit...)
- keeganpoppen 6y agogot anything from the past 50 years?
- djsumdog 6y agoYou gotta wait for it to be declassified. Syria was likely CIA funded. Same with Libya. Just wait a bit. It all comes out after everyone's stopped caring.
- jonnybgood 6y agoAre you speaking about Syria and Libya today that was a result of the Arab Spring in multiple Arab countries, which took everyone including CIA by surprise? Do you really believe the CIA is capable of something on that scale? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arab_Spring https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arab_Spring
- TaylorAlexander 6y agoIf it took the CIA by surprise, why were Syria and Libya on the short list of countries that General Wesley Clark identified as regime change targets in 2007, three years before the Arab Spring? https://youtu.be/9RC1Mepk_Sw https://youtu.be/9RC1Mepk_Sw
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