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Yeah, but to the casual user like me, that's going to help with load times... go from 2 seconds to 1 second.
by orliesaurus 6y ago
Yeah, but to the casual user like me, that's going to help with load times... go from 2 seconds to 1 second.
- nullifidian 6y agoLoad times? I doubt it. Load times are more about cpu and nvme.
- melling 6y agoHowever, all those people who complained that the Atom editor took too much memory are about to experience a new world when they buy their next computer. I used Emacs back when people joked “Eight Megs and Constantly Swapping”
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- imtringued 6y agoTo be fair. Electron bloat doesn't grow with application size. Only incompetence does. By using electron you are basically forcing your application to need around 200-300MB of RAM no matter how trivial it is, but that's all there is to it. Poor application performance has more to do with bad application development. Nothing prevents you from e.g. building Atom in a way that lets you view files bigger than 2MB with good performance or building a Slack client that doesn't leak memory. I can run lots of tabs in Firefox with good performance but if each tab was using its own browser instance I would run out of memory very quickly.
- TuringNYC 6y agoOften the initial consumers would be enterprises instead of casual users. There are numerous enterprise use cases where higher bandwidth and lower latency would be worth the cost. Some that come to mind are in financial services and ML inferencing. I can imagine high-mem compute instances of cloud service providers being an obvious place for these. Also, going for 2 to 1 seconds is pretty huge if you're doing some operation hundreds or thousands of times a day.
- mirsadm 6y agoWould you rather wait an hour or 30 minutes? (putting aside the the fact that faster RAM does not generally result in faster load times)
- grishka 6y agoDon't worry, electron apps will soon compensate for that.
- zionic 6y agoBe more excited that ECC is now part of the standard, and without a speed compromise.
- amelius 6y agoI guess the error rates forced them to make it part of the standard ;)
- wegs 6y agoDoes this mean it will work on any motherboard? On the whole, I find these 20% performance memory upgrade (leading to a fraction of that in real-world performance) more obnoxious than anything, but I'd love ECC!
- jaywalk 6y agoYes, ECC is required because the chips themselves have so many issues.
- lucb1e 6y agoWhy would you buy ECC RAM, have you ever seen a single bit flip or heard of anyone that did?
- osamagirl69 6y agoI have collected about a dozen single bit (corrected) errors in my home cloud, and seen 2 uncorrectable errors. I also have come across about a dozen 'bad' sticks of ram which show errors in memtest86, about half of which only have 1 bad row, and 2 of which only show errors after multiple passes which I assume is thermal based. I do however build all of my computers from pieces from the recycling, so the statistics may be a bit off of the norm...
- zlynx 6y agoWhen you think about the logic of what you said, it is pretty silly. Without ECC RAM, how would you know that you had a single bit flip? How would you know that you needed ECC RAM? When you talk to people who run server systems, you'll find there's plenty of bit flips. This expertise is getting harder to find though, as more people run systems in the "cloud" where there's no visibility into the physical error statistics.
- bhaavan 6y agoA casual user like you ends up using quite complex compute on the cloud, when you watch a video on youtube, scroll a newsfeed, and make an airline booking. Some of the advanced complexities of those tasks, when programmed well by good engineers, can become feasible with this. All the Machine Learning related buzzwords exist mainly because they have only now become computationally feasible. You never know what will come next.