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Pixel 5

162 points by petewailes 6y ago

animex 6y ago
The Pixel 5 (765) has a 16% slower CPU/GPU than the Pixel 3 (845). Not going to "upgrade". My next phone will likely be a OnePlus with a 35% faster CPU, 120Hz screen, more ram, etc etc. The big downside with the OnePlus is the camera. The Pixel camera is the main reason I've stayed. https://www.techrankup.com/en/smartphone-processors-ranking/snapdragon/ https://www.techrankup.com/en/smartphone-processors-ranking/...
- MAGZine 6y ago
  The smaller process size means better battery life. I'll take better battery life over 16% faster performance. I'm rocking a 3a and rare desire for a faster processor/CPU. more battery life is more important than additional performance once you hit a certain point.
  - falcolas 6y ago
    For a lot of folks, their smartphone represents their gaming machine. Performance matters as mobile games get more and more complicated. More games are doing parallel releases with similar engines and graphics between consoles, the PC, and phones (Genshin Impact, for example (even though I loathe their business practices)).
    - MrDresden 6y ago
      Well then it is obvious that the Pixel 5 is not catering to that audience. And that is fine.
    - animex 6y ago
      I have to admit about 50% of my time is spent on Gaming. Battery life is of little concern to me right now because I work from home and 15 mins to 50% fast charge on the pixels nullifies most battery low scenarios. I don't even bother plugging in my phone at night now.
  - deleted 6y ago
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- reportingsjr 6y ago
  I'm very curious, what do you expect to get out of a 35% faster cpu? Are you running cpu intense programs on your phone regularly?
- empiricus 6y ago
  I think you can use the camera app from Pixel (GCam) on the Oneplus phones, and it applies similar post-processing. So best of both worlds?
  - commoner 6y ago
    Yes, developers have ported the Google Camera app to many devices that use the Snapdragon SoC: https://www.celsoazevedo.com/files/android/google-camera/ https://www.celsoazevedo.com/files/android/google-camera/
- driverdan 6y ago
  Have you used a recent OnePlus? Their cameras are actually really good. I'm very happy with the camera on my OnePlus 8.
- fomine3 6y ago
  More detailed CPU benchmark shows that single core performance is increased and multi core performance is a bit increased. It should be "upgrade" for most users because single core performance is mostly matter. It should be upgrade for CPU. IMO high-end SoC's GPU is mostly for gaming. https://browser.geekbench.com/v5/cpu/3926726 https://browser.geekbench.com/v5/cpu/3926726 https://browser.geekbench.com/v5/cpu/3970865 https://browser.geekbench.com/v5/cpu/3970865
- TheAdamist 6y ago
  8 series doesnt have an integrated 5g modem yet. Its a compromise either way until next gen stuff.
codingdave 6y ago
People get bent out of shape when sites hijack their back button, but I dislike when they hijack my scrollbar and make me scroll through animations.
- aDfbrtVt 6y ago
  Plus it slows down my browser to a crawl.
  - lux 6y ago
    The best part is my fans revving up to max and getting noisy as heck.
  - robocat 6y ago
    The page is unusable on an iPad (5th gen) due to the scrolling feature. I have a general aversion to products with sales channels failures, since my heuristic is that if you can’t get your sales right then support or product is even worse.
    - chipotle_coyote 6y ago
      Using that heuristic with the current sales page for the iPad Pro, don't consider upgrading.
  - sjwright 6y ago
    It was smooth as butter on my iPhone 11, FWIW.
    - ebg13 6y ago
      Not in battery saver mode it isn't.
  - ksec 6y ago
    This, I dont mind the animation, as long as it is silky smooth, 60Fps with little CPU usage, i.e it wouldn't warm up my iPad or iPhone or my MacBook Air. I have yet to see any web page scrolling animation that is smooth doesn't cause Jank. And it is very bad experience. I remember the Trash Can Mac Pro website had that website design , and I cant imagine any Pro actually like that. ( And the current AirPod website as well ) These low frame rate animation actually cause me headache and making me throw up.
j4nt4b 6y ago
Just when the world needed more solipsism, distraction, anxiety, surveillance, and mindless entertainment...
Hamuko 6y ago
Just links to the front page of the Google Store.
- modernerd 6y ago
  The /us/ URL worked for me outside the US. https://store.google.com/us/product/pixel_5?hl=en-US https://store.google.com/us/product/pixel_5?hl=en-US
  - Hamuko 6y ago
    Yeah, that one works.
jwalton 6y ago
I like that the "Compare" tab shows some dimensions in mm and some in inches. The Pixel 5 has a "151 mm" screen, the Pixel 4a (5G) has a "6.2 in" screen.
- what_ever 6y ago
  I don't see it that way. The phone skeleton shows inches everywhere for me. Display section shows both inches and mm for diagonal. Disc: Googler.
  - Raphmedia 6y ago
    I see it as both mm and inches too. https://snipboard.io/DU5lun.jpg https://snipboard.io/DU5lun.jpg
systemvoltage 6y ago
Aside: Absolutely despise the web design. Designers from Google - if you're reading this, please explain this to me - what's particularly wrong with a static page?
- rado 6y ago
  The slow scrolling and effects are a disaster. What were they thinking?
  - j4nt4b 6y ago
    Boss told them to "Make it look like Apple but don't get us sued" and everybody got paid.
- alquemist 6y ago
  Not sure what's wrong with the page. It looks slick, polished and expensive. Solid marketing material.
  - gbear605 6y ago
    It doesn’t load correctly on my recent iPhone. The text doesn’t display and the images are glitchy. So apparently they’re not trying to sell to anyone with an iPhone.
  - LegitShady 6y ago
    I can't tell how far down the page I am, I scroll and an effect happens in the screen or a video plays instead. It is very resource intensive making my pixel 3a xl slow noticeably. Personally I would have preferred a normal page. It looks like a web designers dream but it's not usable like a normal web page.
- adwww 6y ago
  I used to love implementing a bit of parallax scrolling circa 2010...
- onion2k 6y ago
rzwitserloot 6y ago
Headsup, for me (Mainland europe), this instantly redirects to the general google store homepage, which is currently selling the 'nest audio' product above the fold. To visit, try: https://store.google.com/us/product/pixel_5?hl=en-US https://store.google.com/us/product/pixel_5?hl=en-US If that doesn't work: First open a private browser window, then go to: https://store.google.com/us/?hl=en-US&regionRedirect=true https://store.google.com/us/?hl=en-US&regionRedirect=true then in the menu, pick 'Pixel', 'Pixel 5'.
- nickik 6y ago
  I was like 'wtf is this garbage' I thought this was about a phone. Don't care enough about a smartphone enough to play tricks with my browser. Apparently they don't want my money.
  - Hamuko 6y ago
    Google has historically not wanted your money but rather your data and clicks.
- slim 6y ago
  I get a page saying "this service is not available in your country"
- po1nter 6y ago
  Not sure what you mean by Mainland Europe (it's not a single country) but it works for me here in France.
  - owenwil 6y ago
    That's because it's available in France. If you try to load it in The Netherlands, it does what they're saying.
  - LegitShady 6y ago
    Mainland Europe meaning not an an island I assume.
TacticalTable 6y ago
The phone seems to be largely what everyone expected, though the ability to change lighting during post processing looks like an interesting feature. Honestly, the thing that stood out the most on this page was that they were using Quibi to show off the screen. Paid product placement?
- xibalba 6y ago
  > stood out the most on this page was that they were using Quibi Same and definitely paid. Seems like a dumb move on Google's part to associate with a brand that is largely unknown and on (already) on life support.
- arendtio 6y ago
  For me, the thing that stood out where the 24 footnotes. The rest looked more like a normal smartphone. Wow, it can create a hotspot, but wait: it also supports wireless charging... I am a bit confused that those features are being promoted in 2020 when my S3 from 2012 also has those abilities. Maybe it's just the promotion, but it doesn't really feel like a phone that I must buy.
  - foota 6y ago
    I don't think they've done a good job of phrasing it, but the pixel 5 supports "reverse wireless charging", allowing other wireless devices to charge off of it.
    - sliken 6y ago
      Sadly other "wireless" devices, sadly not other phones.
      - foota 6y ago
        I don't think this is accurate. I clicked through the footnote from the Google store page and found this, https://support.google.com/pixelphone/answer/10107702?p=wirelesscharging&visit_id=637371527780607365-3303653981&rd=1 https://support.google.com/pixelphone/answer/10107702?p=wire.... Which includes phones.
ashishb 6y ago
So Pixel 5 came after 6P. Google's naming remains confusing.
- zhaso 6y ago
  So did Pixel 1, 2, 3, and 4. It's a completely different product line/branding from (Nexus) 6P.
- Octoth0rpe 6y ago
  Pixel 5 came after the Nexus 6p. The iPhone SE 2 also came out after the iPhone 8. :shrug:
  - ogre_codes 6y ago
    Not that this is much better, but there is no iPhone SE 2. It is just the iPhone SE.
- deleted 6y ago
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- johnasmith 6y ago
  The pixel series has been very reasonably named. Pixel 1, Pixel 2, Pixel 3, Pixel 3a, Pixel 4, Pixel 4a, Pixel 5. You're mixing in Nexus 6P, of the Nexus line, which ended five years ago.
  - dheera 6y ago
    The Nexus line was named after the number of inches, not chronologically. Nexus 4 = 4 inches, Nexus 5 = 5 inches, Nexus 6 = 6 inches, Nexus 7 = 7 inches, Nexus 9 = 9 inches. Newer versions within the same number of inches were dealt with by smacking some arbitrary letters like "X" and "P" and sometimes the year "(2013)" in the case of Nexus 7.
  - ashishb 6y ago
    An average user doesn't called it Pixel, Nexus, whatever. For them, it is the Google phone. Only geeks care about such nuances.
decebalus1 6y ago
who the hell wrote this copy? The writers of Idiocracy? What's with all the empty naive bombastic language? 'The ultimate', 'super fast', 'hyperspeed', 'Extreme Battery Saver', 'Superfast downloads', 'Ultrasmooth streaming', ' superfast signal', 'ultrawide lens', 'jaw-dropping', 'super-smooth panning'. They should finish with 'If you don't buy it, fuck you!'
- j4nt4b 6y ago
  Viewing the page on the Lynx browser renders the copy as trippy post-modern newspeak poetry: The ultimate 5G Google phone.^1 Buy Pixel 5 Smooth, fast performance. More RAM lets you move from task to task, super fast. Sing in the rain. It can take a splash or spill, no problem.^2 Power up without a plug. It charges wirelessly, and shares battery life.^3,4 Sorta Sage Just Black
haunter 6y ago
>We aren’t in your region yet Europe, EU member, not even a non-EU country. Oh well see you next year then. Maybe one day. Edit: a visual guide to Google in 2020 https://i.imgur.com/DiXEYBF.png https://i.imgur.com/DiXEYBF.png
- Clampower 6y ago
  It's not sold in NL
  - drawfloat 6y ago
    Which is bizarre. It's a single market – there's differences, sure, but every tiny phone manufacturer seems to be able to launch across the continent, how does Google still not manage it 5 years in?
actuator 6y ago
Huh, it seems like they have gone with Snapdragon 765 instead of 865. Is the price difference between the processors that high? Also, I think Google should commit to four year updates now.
- TheAdamist 6y ago
  765g has a builtin 5g modem, 865 is a 2 chip solution. 865 is faster, costs more, uses more energy, and takes up more board real estate. If the next gen 8 series qualcomm can integrate the modem, it might be an easier decision. Currently the 765g seems like the overall superior solution, even if somewhat slower.
- L33tCrown 6y ago
  OnePlus 8 have it for the same price (little lower actually)
_xander 6y ago
What is the current state of performance for 5g chipsets, from Qualcomm and more generally? Do early adopters face (comparably) higher energy consumption and poorer performance (bandwidth, signal, channel access) versus 4g and upcoming 5g chips? I've seen reports that battery life impacts are so significant that most users opt to turn 5g functionality off. Is this still the case? N.B. Pixel 5 has a Qualcomm 765G chipset
Taniwha 6y ago
Any idea if there's just one model? - or are there a US/rest of the world LTE variants like previous pixels?
Stevvo 6y ago
The site is very sluggish for me when scrolling through the animations on a mid-range Android device
- spurgu 6y ago
  For me as well on a 2015 MBP...
martythemaniak 6y ago
Pretty interesting (and disappointing to me) that their top of the line phone has a smaller screen than their mid-range. I wish they'd make a proper 7" phone. Not 7" because it's super elongated (Galaxy S20 Ultra), but like the old Nexus 7, minus all the bezels. Because the Nexus 7 was wider than phones are today, it has like 30% more screen space than a 7" phone.
antirez 6y ago
Finally a big battery in a high end phone.
- andoriyu 6y ago
  It's a upper mid-range phone.
- wetpaws 6y ago
  4000mah is not big, and I am sad even this is considered to be as an exception among other high end phones
  - antirez 6y ago
    True but better than 3200 or other jokes.
fourseventy 6y ago
Is that a fingerprint scanner on the back? My Pixel 4 doesn't have a fingerprint scanner and its a pain in the ass to use the face unlock (especially now because of covid).
- kyrra 6y ago
  looks like they got rid of the face unlock, and want back to fingerprint across the board.
  - fomine3 6y ago
    Google is too smart so they can expect covid while designing Pixel 5 /s. I hope Apple is also too smart.
- pwned1 6y ago
  It appears to have one, but the site doesn't mention it. Weird.
grok22 6y ago
To me, it seems like the 4a 5G is the better phone (slightly larger screen, audio jack!!!) and is cheaper by a couple of 100 dollars. Is the wireless charging and water-proof worth the extra 200?
- lern_too_spel 6y ago
  No, those features are not worth it. I can't use a phone while it is wireless charging, but I can use it while it is plugged in and charging. That feature is worthless to me. A headphone jack, on the other hand, reduces the number of devices I need to charge, which is very useful.
- asdfasgasdgasdg 6y ago
  I don't know if they are "worth" that delta, but I know I'm not buying a phone that lacks those two features.
- coldpie 6y ago
  The A-series of phones has consistently been better than the "full" phones. They have a headphone jack; are usually slightly smaller; are much cheaper; the backs are sometimes made out of better materials (glass is the worst material for a phone back). You'd be a fool not to wait for the 5A's improvements.
- timdorr 6y ago
  The 5 also has 2GB more RAM, 200mAh more battery life, a 90hz screen with more contrast (1M:1 vs 100K:1 ratio), aluminum vs. plastic body, and Gorilla Glass 6 vs. 3. It also looks like the 4a 5G has two sub-models for different networks, whereas the 5 has them all in one model. So if you desire more portability between 5G networks, the 5 is a better option there. That's pretty much all I could see as notable differences. Not saying any of that is worth the price difference, but perhaps it explains it a bit. I am definitely going to wait for the inevitable Black Friday deals they do shortly after release. They discounted $200 in past years, which makes the 5 much more palatable to me.
  - grok22 6y ago
mgraczyk 6y ago
The designers of this page must be using iPhones, because my Pixel 4XL stutters and crawls through the scrolljacked animations. That and the 3 popups makes me wonder, who is this built for??
- gbear605 6y ago
  It doesn’t work well on my iPhone either, so they’re just not making it for phone users of any kind, which seems like a poor choice.
  - azinman2 6y ago
    It does on my 11 on iOS 14, FWIW
  - fomine3 6y ago
    So it is success to make viewer to feel my phone is too old to browsing and want a new phone.
TheCapn 6y ago
From the very initial scroll through things, I'm not impressed. Now I'm not a habitual phone upgrader, I tend to replace my phone when the old one wears down or breaks. I bought the Pixel 4 after my Pixel 1 died and was fairly unimpressed overall. Their headlining market points for the Pixel 5 just... aren't that interesting. - 5G: Doesn't really matter to me. 4G is plenty fast for everyday use and I wouldn't try heavy enough streaming off data to even need to increase - Wireless charging: not new - Photos in the dark: not new - Google Assistant: not new... and honestly, kinda crap. I turned off a lot of permissions on my phone and the assistant is virtually useless now. I can't give it commands from the lock screen or do even basic things with it unlocked while driving. At this point I'll probably root and just put a custom ROM on there because nothing google packaged with the phone is all that useful. The battery is nice, but its also not worth a $800 price tag. I think Google needs to stop chasing the iPhone and go back to the Nexus style of simple+good+affordable. Even the 4a seems like a stronger value proposition imo. EDIT: I just noticed that they brought back the fingerpint unlock on the back? Okay, that is a huge plus; the face unlock is a generally shitty feature usability wise. I was kinda upset when I gave up wireless charging for the Pixel 1 but fell in love with the fingerprint unlock on the back. When I went to Pixel 4 and lost the fingerprint in exchange for Wireless charging I kinda felt like I made a poor choice. Now that they finally combined the two I'll give them credit.
- wegs 6y ago
  I would add that honest specs would help. I'd like to know sensor size. Not "pixel width." Sensor size+aperture, to a first order, is what you want to know about a camera.
  - SketchySeaBeast 6y ago
    It's all useless. With a regular camera, absolutely, but I don't think the Pixel has changed its sensor since the 2? It's all post-processing improvements.
- faitswulff 6y ago
  I think the only new things I saw were the ultrawide lens and the lighting effects in Google Photos, which were neat but not breathtaking.
jaflo 6y ago
> And with Hold for Me, Google Assistant waits on hold for you and lets you know when someone's on the line. This seems like a pretty cool feature. I used to be on Android and remember Google making calls on my behalf for reservations, but this feature is done on-device it seems.
- Farbklex 6y ago
  I expect that the operators on the other end will just hang up on you when you don't answer within 5 seconds.
- jumelles 6y ago
  Yeah, this is the only thing that jumped out to me as a new and useful idea. Hopefully Apple eventually does something similar.
kevindeasis 6y ago
Please take off the parallax, its really painful to use. I would love to switch from ios to android. I actually want to move back to an android device. My dilemma is, i want an apple credit card (or something similar) and better cameras compared to apple
- Arelius 6y ago
  > i want an apple credit card (or something similar) Why an apple credit card? Like, when you say "something similar" what would apply?
  - kevindeasis 6y ago
    Anything that would give me all of this and lets me use android and give me a nice looking platinum card. Or an app that will let me use my apple credit card in android https://www.apple.com/apple-card/ https://www.apple.com/apple-card/
csours 6y ago
Hmm. Very tempted to trade in my 4 for this, and I'd much rather have fingerprint unlock than face unlock. It's cheaper than the 4 and has a bigger battery. I'm sure the cameras are at least adequate. Is it worse than the 4 in any way? I don't know how to compare the Qualcomm® Snapdragon™ 765G with Octa-Core in the Pixel 5 to the Qualcomm® Snapdragon™ 855* with Octa-Core in the Pixel 4. I wonder if Google Fi is going to do anything special with 5G? I haven't noticed any particular announcements. Edit: pulled the trigger. I'm so glad they went out of stock on the regular google store, because that reminded me to buy it on the Fi store, where I got better trade in value, and the green one is available.
- zoeey123 6y ago
  855 is much more powerful
maxioatic 6y ago
The simple fact that this has an aluminum body will make me upgrade to it eventually. I'm super tired of glass backed phones because I have broken every single one I've ever owned.
knotty66 6y ago
In the UK at least - you get a pair of very nice Bose QC 35 IIs (RRP £299) free, if you buy soon. These are selling on eBay for £200 currently, though I'm sure that price will drop a bit once the market gets flooded. If you do sell at that price though, that brings the price of the phone down to £399, and at that price it is a steal. The Pixel 4a is a great phone for £350, and this brings a bigger battery, faster CPU, 5G, wide-angle lens, 90hz screen, wireless charging, water resistance, and 2GB more memory for an extra £50 if you are able to offload the headphones.
nsriv 6y ago
Discrepancy in pricing between North American Pixel 5 and European/International Pixel 5 seems to be because the North American version includes mmWave.
_emacsomancer_ 6y ago
128Gb storage & no sdcard slot?
DocG 6y ago
Last two years have been difficult for me when choosing new phone. It's been, what am I willing to downgrade? Is it camera options, quality or screen resolution, headphone jack, battery life etc. This year's pixels fixed the cameras and fingerprint sensor luckily, but screen sizes and resolutions are downgrade :( Seriously considering note 9 before it's too old...
meerita 6y ago
I wish the big companies stop doing parallax websites.
lmilcin 6y ago
My initial thought: somebody went to town with that scroll. I mean, well prepared marketing page should cause me to think about the product, hopefully favorably, not about completely pointless misuse of scrollbar that some web designer with a huge workstation probably could run fluidly.
kushalpandya 6y ago
Pixel 5 is everything Pixel 4 should've been, this is essentially a last year's phone with processor that's also as fast as last year's flagship processor. And none of it is bad in any way, $699 of asking price is appropriate. What's sad is that Pixel phones even after 5 generations have had at least one tragic flaw which would be a deal breaker for many; - Pixel 1 - Giant bezels - Pixel 2 - OLED burn-in and color issues - Pixel 3 - Gigantic notch - Pixel 4 - Radar which still isn't proven to be useful, no ultrawide camera. This is first time that Google made a flagship phone (3a and 4a are still midrange) that doesn't have any obvious flaws, so I hope it changes fate of Pixel line for good.
- krzyk 6y ago
  > [..] this is essentially a last year's phone with processor that's also as fast as last year's flagship processor. CPU is 16% slower than Pixel 3 one, so two generations back.
  - MrDresden 6y ago
    I'll take that reduction in raw processing power for better battery life any day. This is a phone after all
- neogodless 6y ago
  The Pixel 3 has no notch, though I'm guessing the XL does. (I'm on a Pixel 3 now!) Spouse has 2 XL which I think I like a pinch better than my 3 but not enough to switch out. I went from a Nexus 6P and this is definitely better but also not an overwhelming upgrade. Just happy to resume getting updates and have a great camera. The 4 and 5 do not interest me, and "latest updates" is not nearly the value proposition it was 5 years ago (or maybe I'd miss it...?) So I definitely expect my next phone to be non-Google like OnePlus or maybe Motorola.
  - JeremyNT 6y ago
    I went from a Pixel 2 to the OnePlus 6t. If you are used to the pixel series, prepare to be disappointed by the "value add" brought to android by other vendors. This device is supposed to be close to "vanilla" android, but it still has several annoying modifications that make it worse than the devices Google sells directly. Newer OnePlus devices have even more extensive changes, too. I doubt I'll every buy a non-google Android phone again. The software and update story of the Pixel series is still the real compelling value there, and it's worth the premium.
chmod775 6y ago
I look at these phone announcements nowadays and realize I don't care about any of their value propositions. The phones sold 5 or 6 years ago were good enough on any of those metrics by my standards: I look at my 5 year old phone, look at the new ones, and realize that just the hassle of setting a new one up wouldn't be worth it. Also they need to scrap all the Google software crap like "Google Assistant" out of their marketing. I have yet to meet someone who would consider anything like that a feature. People expect it to be an annoyance at best - that's those who don't give a fuck about privacy.
- thirtythree 6y ago
  I agree with you but set up of a new phone is pretty simple if you move Android->Android or iPhone->iPhone. Your google or apple account should sync everything
- foolfoolz 6y ago
  for most people phones have reached the same peak as laptops: only buy a new one if yours breaks
- jfengel 6y ago
  The Pixel phone setup was very, very good. It copied all of the data off my old phone and was off and running. I don't even think I had to re-enter passwords. I like the Google assistant. It's useful for "set timer 15 minutes" while my hands are dirty from cooking. (I had an even better use, "Remind me at 8 PM to take out the trash" while I'm driving, but for some idiotic reason "Reminders are currently not available for GSuite users"[1]). [1] https://support.google.com/assistant/thread/11607814?hl=en https://support.google.com/assistant/thread/11607814?hl=en
aerique 6y ago
But does it run SailfishOS?
karim79 6y ago
I want this, and not a > 1000 euro phone with no headset, compulsory face recognition, and an AI supercomputer chip with a battery which last half a day. Half of the phones to come out over the last 5 years felt like they were engaged in a useless gimmickry arms race and it's a really clever move to be the first to pull the plug on that trend IMO. I for one was not expecting it. Of course, I'm not going to buy because I have both the 3XL (this phone, best phone ever IMO, indestructible and does the things I need well) and the 4XL which I don't use as face unlock was annoying to begin with and now, simply put, useless. In a year where company execs can, for instance, present a watch and with a straight face say "up to 18 hours battery life" I like to think that these guys brought some sanity to the table. They figured out what people care about, refined those elements and dumped the rest of the useless crap. Who actually uses AR apart from a few pokemon players and some other niche uses, who cares about a 5% better camera when all cameras are amazing, and who wants to pay >1000, when phones have reached a reasonable performance level in any category. Which phones of the last three years are too slow? It feels like the grown-up version of the smart phone. One size offering which falls in the sweet spot, amazing camera, fast refresh display, the only biometric that people actually like, and it's waterproof. Face recognition is dead in the water, unless the law becomes having QR codes on face masks. That's why my pixel 4XL is still new and unused. Additionally, a lot of people have less disposable income in light of recent events. My pixel 3XL is still great so I'll hold off for now, but I'm super happy to see this type of "evolution". Just my ten cents.
- Dahoon 6y ago
  I'm not sure this is a trend breaker. OnePlus seems to do the same.
krzyk 6y ago
No Face Unlock :( This was my single reason to swich from Pixel 3 to Pixel 4. And now they removed it and put a CPU/GPU that is slower than in Pixel 3.
- xyse53 6y ago
  I respect your preference but I think you're in a minority on face vs fingerprint, not even adjusting for covid facemasks.
  - krzyk 6y ago
    I wonder why. (In my case fingerprint scanner was forgetting my fingers in a week or my fingers changed in a week when summer ended - the only clue I got is that during winter skin gets dryer and might influence scanner readings, it was very frustrating) I was hoping that Apples push for that would force other manufacturers to adapt it also.
    - jfengel 6y ago
      It doesn't forget my fingers, but it won't let me in if my hands are very damp (like after a shower). Though I do get some sour grapes out of the fact that it's not a bad idea to force me to enter my PIN once in a while, so I don't forget.
    - int_19h 6y ago
      For most users, the fingerprint sensor on Pixels works reliably - and when it does, it's also very convenient, because your finger pretty much lands in the exact right spot when pulling it out of the pocket.
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vilifiedtwin 6y ago
The most important feature in a phone I think is the call recording. If I have a conversation with my doctor, sometimes I like to re-listen to it in case I got the dosage of medication wrong or misunderstood something. I also record all calls with my parents. They are very old now and I want to keep their voice. I learned that recent Android versions have call recording disabled because Google claims it is illegal to record someone without their knowledge (and at the same time they don't disable the cameras). It is legal in my country though and it shouldn't be up to Google to decide. So my question is - is it possible to record calls on Pixel 5? I am in the market for a new phone, but I keep reading conflicting reports that likely call recording is disabled.
hourislate 6y ago
$699.00 for a mobile with old specs and at least $100 more than something like an Oneplus 8. https://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=10386&idPhone2=10161&idPhone3=10420 https://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=10386&idPhone... Am I missing something? Will people actually buy this?
- simonsarris 6y ago
  I'm a hobby photographer and I already pre-ordered the Pixel 5. I suspect there will be no comparison in the picture quality. However I also edit big, 47MP jpegs from my Leica on my Pixel 2XL and amusingly I'm not sure if it will be faster or slower to edit on the Pixel 5, given the processor. Alas the 2XL has cracked in 3 corners and is held together by tape, so to the 5 I go.
stronglikedan 6y ago
I really hope I can move all non-notification icons (and clock) to the right side of the screen, so I can tell when I have a notification at a glance. That was the most frustrating change introduced by the notch for me, and from the screenshots, it looks like it persists even without the notch.
ur-whale 6y ago
As usual, the site only works for US IPs
canada_dry 6y ago
How is it that 5 hasn't shown up on MKBHD's channel?? Did he piss off the Pixel team with saying that 4 was "a massive victim of its own hype"?
srg0 6y ago
So, the non extendable 128 GB is the only storage option in 2020? What else should we expect, battery issues and the model being discontinued in less than 12 months?
- fomine3 6y ago
  It's 5G unlimited era and Google operates Google Photo and Drive, that's the answer.
martinflack 6y ago
Incidentally, for anyone who works in consumer hardware, is there usually any stock in the "I'll wait a few months for a later batch in case they fix some hardware problems" approach some people take?
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dzonga 6y ago
seems phones, want to be cameras these days. we've had cameras for 100s of years. yet all phone marketing is about, the phone being a camera, not being good at being a phone. at least with spam screening my pixel 3a does a somewhat okay job at being a phone. and for the camera part, film cameras I still good. I use one that I bought on ebay for 25$.
commoner 6y ago
PassMark benchmark scores for Pixel phones: Google Pixel / XL: 1,893 / 2,285 Google Pixel 2 / 2 XL: 5,556 / 5,402 Google Pixel 3 / 3 XL: 6,359 / 6,934 Google Pixel 4 / 4 XL: 8,722 / 8,656 Google Pixel 3a / 3a XL: 5,334 / 5,088 Google Pixel 4a: 6,476 The following phones use the same Snapdragon 765G SoC as the Pixel 5: Motorola Edge (4-6GB RAM): 6,717 OnePlus Nord (8GB / 12GB RAM): 7,036 / 7,190 With 8GB RAM, the Pixel 5 should have a performance score comparable to the Pixel 3 XL. https://www.androidbenchmark.net/device_list.php https://www.androidbenchmark.net/device_list.php
AFlyingBoom 6y ago
I think the price is pretty reasonable but the hidden cost of owning this phone is that you'd be handing Google more data about yourself they could ever collect by other means.
fomine3 6y ago
It's not so fun but it looks like great for daily use. * lightweight 151g even though it support 5G and battery is increased. * 8GB of RAM (Pixel 4 was fewer 6GB even high-end) * Fingerprint auth again! Currently I don't want 5G because it increases weight by adding antennas and battery capacity but not much value compared to faster 4G. Anyway, 4G high-end devices are no longer released so this is an acceptable device with 5G.
nikolay 6y ago
So underspec'd that it hurts...
me_me_me 6y ago
I was holding out for the Pixel 5 to be released. Its a huge disappointment. I ended up buying my first choice Oneplus Nord.

162 points by petewailes 6y ago

The Pixel 5 (765) has a 16% slower CPU/GPU than the Pixel 3 (845). Not going to "upgrade". My next phone will likely be a OnePlus with a 35% faster CPU, 120Hz screen, more ram, etc etc. The big downside with the OnePlus is the camera. The Pixel camera is the main reason I've stayed. https://www.techrankup.com/en/smartphone-processors-ranking/snapdragon/ https://www.techrankup.com/en/smartphone-processors-ranking/...

MAGZine 6y ago
The smaller process size means better battery life. I'll take better battery life over 16% faster performance. I'm rocking a 3a and rare desire for a faster processor/CPU. more battery life is more important than additional performance once you hit a certain point.
- falcolas 6y ago
  For a lot of folks, their smartphone represents their gaming machine. Performance matters as mobile games get more and more complicated. More games are doing parallel releases with similar engines and graphics between consoles, the PC, and phones (Genshin Impact, for example (even though I loathe their business practices)).
  - MrDresden 6y ago
    Well then it is obvious that the Pixel 5 is not catering to that audience. And that is fine.
  - animex 6y ago
    I have to admit about 50% of my time is spent on Gaming. Battery life is of little concern to me right now because I work from home and 15 mins to 50% fast charge on the pixels nullifies most battery low scenarios. I don't even bother plugging in my phone at night now.
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reportingsjr 6y ago
I'm very curious, what do you expect to get out of a 35% faster cpu? Are you running cpu intense programs on your phone regularly?
empiricus 6y ago
I think you can use the camera app from Pixel (GCam) on the Oneplus phones, and it applies similar post-processing. So best of both worlds?
- commoner 6y ago
  Yes, developers have ported the Google Camera app to many devices that use the Snapdragon SoC: https://www.celsoazevedo.com/files/android/google-camera/ https://www.celsoazevedo.com/files/android/google-camera/
driverdan 6y ago
Have you used a recent OnePlus? Their cameras are actually really good. I'm very happy with the camera on my OnePlus 8.
fomine3 6y ago
More detailed CPU benchmark shows that single core performance is increased and multi core performance is a bit increased. It should be "upgrade" for most users because single core performance is mostly matter. It should be upgrade for CPU. IMO high-end SoC's GPU is mostly for gaming. https://browser.geekbench.com/v5/cpu/3926726 https://browser.geekbench.com/v5/cpu/3926726 https://browser.geekbench.com/v5/cpu/3970865 https://browser.geekbench.com/v5/cpu/3970865
TheAdamist 6y ago
8 series doesnt have an integrated 5g modem yet. Its a compromise either way until next gen stuff.

codingdave 6y ago

People get bent out of shape when sites hijack their back button, but I dislike when they hijack my scrollbar and make me scroll through animations.

aDfbrtVt 6y ago
Plus it slows down my browser to a crawl.
- lux 6y ago
  The best part is my fans revving up to max and getting noisy as heck.
- robocat 6y ago
  The page is unusable on an iPad (5th gen) due to the scrolling feature. I have a general aversion to products with sales channels failures, since my heuristic is that if you can’t get your sales right then support or product is even worse.
  - chipotle_coyote 6y ago
    Using that heuristic with the current sales page for the iPad Pro, don't consider upgrading.
- sjwright 6y ago
  It was smooth as butter on my iPhone 11, FWIW.
  - ebg13 6y ago
    Not in battery saver mode it isn't.
- ksec 6y ago
  This, I dont mind the animation, as long as it is silky smooth, 60Fps with little CPU usage, i.e it wouldn't warm up my iPad or iPhone or my MacBook Air. I have yet to see any web page scrolling animation that is smooth doesn't cause Jank. And it is very bad experience. I remember the Trash Can Mac Pro website had that website design , and I cant imagine any Pro actually like that. ( And the current AirPod website as well ) These low frame rate animation actually cause me headache and making me throw up.

j4nt4b 6y ago

Just when the world needed more solipsism, distraction, anxiety, surveillance, and mindless entertainment...

Hamuko 6y ago

Just links to the front page of the Google Store.

modernerd 6y ago
The /us/ URL worked for me outside the US. https://store.google.com/us/product/pixel_5?hl=en-US https://store.google.com/us/product/pixel_5?hl=en-US
- Hamuko 6y ago
  Yeah, that one works.

jwalton 6y ago

I like that the "Compare" tab shows some dimensions in mm and some in inches. The Pixel 5 has a "151 mm" screen, the Pixel 4a (5G) has a "6.2 in" screen.

what_ever 6y ago
I don't see it that way. The phone skeleton shows inches everywhere for me. Display section shows both inches and mm for diagonal. Disc: Googler.
- Raphmedia 6y ago
  I see it as both mm and inches too. https://snipboard.io/DU5lun.jpg https://snipboard.io/DU5lun.jpg

systemvoltage 6y ago

Aside: Absolutely despise the web design. Designers from Google - if you're reading this, please explain this to me - what's particularly wrong with a static page?

rado 6y ago
The slow scrolling and effects are a disaster. What were they thinking?
- j4nt4b 6y ago
  Boss told them to "Make it look like Apple but don't get us sued" and everybody got paid.
alquemist 6y ago
Not sure what's wrong with the page. It looks slick, polished and expensive. Solid marketing material.
- gbear605 6y ago
  It doesn’t load correctly on my recent iPhone. The text doesn’t display and the images are glitchy. So apparently they’re not trying to sell to anyone with an iPhone.
- LegitShady 6y ago
  I can't tell how far down the page I am, I scroll and an effect happens in the screen or a video plays instead. It is very resource intensive making my pixel 3a xl slow noticeably. Personally I would have preferred a normal page. It looks like a web designers dream but it's not usable like a normal web page.
adwww 6y ago
I used to love implementing a bit of parallax scrolling circa 2010...
onion2k 6y ago

rzwitserloot 6y ago

Headsup, for me (Mainland europe), this instantly redirects to the general google store homepage, which is currently selling the 'nest audio' product above the fold. To visit, try: https://store.google.com/us/product/pixel_5?hl=en-US https://store.google.com/us/product/pixel_5?hl=en-US If that doesn't work: First open a private browser window, then go to: https://store.google.com/us/?hl=en-US&regionRedirect=true https://store.google.com/us/?hl=en-US&regionRedirect=true then in the menu, pick 'Pixel', 'Pixel 5'.

nickik 6y ago
I was like 'wtf is this garbage' I thought this was about a phone. Don't care enough about a smartphone enough to play tricks with my browser. Apparently they don't want my money.
- Hamuko 6y ago
  Google has historically not wanted your money but rather your data and clicks.
slim 6y ago
I get a page saying "this service is not available in your country"
po1nter 6y ago
Not sure what you mean by Mainland Europe (it's not a single country) but it works for me here in France.
- owenwil 6y ago
  That's because it's available in France. If you try to load it in The Netherlands, it does what they're saying.
- LegitShady 6y ago
  Mainland Europe meaning not an an island I assume.

TacticalTable 6y ago

The phone seems to be largely what everyone expected, though the ability to change lighting during post processing looks like an interesting feature. Honestly, the thing that stood out the most on this page was that they were using Quibi to show off the screen. Paid product placement?

xibalba 6y ago
> stood out the most on this page was that they were using Quibi Same and definitely paid. Seems like a dumb move on Google's part to associate with a brand that is largely unknown and on (already) on life support.
arendtio 6y ago
For me, the thing that stood out where the 24 footnotes. The rest looked more like a normal smartphone. Wow, it can create a hotspot, but wait: it also supports wireless charging... I am a bit confused that those features are being promoted in 2020 when my S3 from 2012 also has those abilities. Maybe it's just the promotion, but it doesn't really feel like a phone that I must buy.
- foota 6y ago
  I don't think they've done a good job of phrasing it, but the pixel 5 supports "reverse wireless charging", allowing other wireless devices to charge off of it.
  - sliken 6y ago
    Sadly other "wireless" devices, sadly not other phones.
    - foota 6y ago
      I don't think this is accurate. I clicked through the footnote from the Google store page and found this, https://support.google.com/pixelphone/answer/10107702?p=wirelesscharging&visit_id=637371527780607365-3303653981&rd=1 https://support.google.com/pixelphone/answer/10107702?p=wire.... Which includes phones.

ashishb 6y ago

So Pixel 5 came after 6P. Google's naming remains confusing.

zhaso 6y ago
So did Pixel 1, 2, 3, and 4. It's a completely different product line/branding from (Nexus) 6P.
Octoth0rpe 6y ago
Pixel 5 came after the Nexus 6p. The iPhone SE 2 also came out after the iPhone 8. :shrug:
- ogre_codes 6y ago
  Not that this is much better, but there is no iPhone SE 2. It is just the iPhone SE.
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johnasmith 6y ago
The pixel series has been very reasonably named. Pixel 1, Pixel 2, Pixel 3, Pixel 3a, Pixel 4, Pixel 4a, Pixel 5. You're mixing in Nexus 6P, of the Nexus line, which ended five years ago.
- dheera 6y ago
  The Nexus line was named after the number of inches, not chronologically. Nexus 4 = 4 inches, Nexus 5 = 5 inches, Nexus 6 = 6 inches, Nexus 7 = 7 inches, Nexus 9 = 9 inches. Newer versions within the same number of inches were dealt with by smacking some arbitrary letters like "X" and "P" and sometimes the year "(2013)" in the case of Nexus 7.
- ashishb 6y ago
  An average user doesn't called it Pixel, Nexus, whatever. For them, it is the Google phone. Only geeks care about such nuances.

decebalus1 6y ago

who the hell wrote this copy? The writers of Idiocracy? What's with all the empty naive bombastic language? 'The ultimate', 'super fast', 'hyperspeed', 'Extreme Battery Saver', 'Superfast downloads', 'Ultrasmooth streaming', ' superfast signal', 'ultrawide lens', 'jaw-dropping', 'super-smooth panning'. They should finish with 'If you don't buy it, fuck you!'

j4nt4b 6y ago
Viewing the page on the Lynx browser renders the copy as trippy post-modern newspeak poetry: The ultimate 5G Google phone.^1 Buy Pixel 5 Smooth, fast performance. More RAM lets you move from task to task, super fast. Sing in the rain. It can take a splash or spill, no problem.^2 Power up without a plug. It charges wirelessly, and shares battery life.^3,4 Sorta Sage Just Black

haunter 6y ago

>We aren’t in your region yet Europe, EU member, not even a non-EU country. Oh well see you next year then. Maybe one day. Edit: a visual guide to Google in 2020 https://i.imgur.com/DiXEYBF.png https://i.imgur.com/DiXEYBF.png

Clampower 6y ago
It's not sold in NL
- drawfloat 6y ago
  Which is bizarre. It's a single market – there's differences, sure, but every tiny phone manufacturer seems to be able to launch across the continent, how does Google still not manage it 5 years in?

actuator 6y ago

Huh, it seems like they have gone with Snapdragon 765 instead of 865. Is the price difference between the processors that high? Also, I think Google should commit to four year updates now.

TheAdamist 6y ago
765g has a builtin 5g modem, 865 is a 2 chip solution. 865 is faster, costs more, uses more energy, and takes up more board real estate. If the next gen 8 series qualcomm can integrate the modem, it might be an easier decision. Currently the 765g seems like the overall superior solution, even if somewhat slower.
L33tCrown 6y ago
OnePlus 8 have it for the same price (little lower actually)

_xander 6y ago

What is the current state of performance for 5g chipsets, from Qualcomm and more generally? Do early adopters face (comparably) higher energy consumption and poorer performance (bandwidth, signal, channel access) versus 4g and upcoming 5g chips? I've seen reports that battery life impacts are so significant that most users opt to turn 5g functionality off. Is this still the case? N.B. Pixel 5 has a Qualcomm 765G chipset

Taniwha 6y ago

Any idea if there's just one model? - or are there a US/rest of the world LTE variants like previous pixels?

Stevvo 6y ago

The site is very sluggish for me when scrolling through the animations on a mid-range Android device

spurgu 6y ago
For me as well on a 2015 MBP...

martythemaniak 6y ago

Pretty interesting (and disappointing to me) that their top of the line phone has a smaller screen than their mid-range. I wish they'd make a proper 7" phone. Not 7" because it's super elongated (Galaxy S20 Ultra), but like the old Nexus 7, minus all the bezels. Because the Nexus 7 was wider than phones are today, it has like 30% more screen space than a 7" phone.

antirez 6y ago

Finally a big battery in a high end phone.

andoriyu 6y ago
It's a upper mid-range phone.
wetpaws 6y ago
4000mah is not big, and I am sad even this is considered to be as an exception among other high end phones
- antirez 6y ago
  True but better than 3200 or other jokes.

fourseventy 6y ago

Is that a fingerprint scanner on the back? My Pixel 4 doesn't have a fingerprint scanner and its a pain in the ass to use the face unlock (especially now because of covid).

kyrra 6y ago
looks like they got rid of the face unlock, and want back to fingerprint across the board.
- fomine3 6y ago
  Google is too smart so they can expect covid while designing Pixel 5 /s. I hope Apple is also too smart.
pwned1 6y ago
It appears to have one, but the site doesn't mention it. Weird.

grok22 6y ago

To me, it seems like the 4a 5G is the better phone (slightly larger screen, audio jack!!!) and is cheaper by a couple of 100 dollars. Is the wireless charging and water-proof worth the extra 200?

lern_too_spel 6y ago
No, those features are not worth it. I can't use a phone while it is wireless charging, but I can use it while it is plugged in and charging. That feature is worthless to me. A headphone jack, on the other hand, reduces the number of devices I need to charge, which is very useful.
asdfasgasdgasdg 6y ago
I don't know if they are "worth" that delta, but I know I'm not buying a phone that lacks those two features.
coldpie 6y ago
The A-series of phones has consistently been better than the "full" phones. They have a headphone jack; are usually slightly smaller; are much cheaper; the backs are sometimes made out of better materials (glass is the worst material for a phone back). You'd be a fool not to wait for the 5A's improvements.
timdorr 6y ago
The 5 also has 2GB more RAM, 200mAh more battery life, a 90hz screen with more contrast (1M:1 vs 100K:1 ratio), aluminum vs. plastic body, and Gorilla Glass 6 vs. 3. It also looks like the 4a 5G has two sub-models for different networks, whereas the 5 has them all in one model. So if you desire more portability between 5G networks, the 5 is a better option there. That's pretty much all I could see as notable differences. Not saying any of that is worth the price difference, but perhaps it explains it a bit. I am definitely going to wait for the inevitable Black Friday deals they do shortly after release. They discounted $200 in past years, which makes the 5 much more palatable to me.
- grok22 6y ago

mgraczyk 6y ago

The designers of this page must be using iPhones, because my Pixel 4XL stutters and crawls through the scrolljacked animations. That and the 3 popups makes me wonder, who is this built for??

gbear605 6y ago
It doesn’t work well on my iPhone either, so they’re just not making it for phone users of any kind, which seems like a poor choice.
- azinman2 6y ago
  It does on my 11 on iOS 14, FWIW
- fomine3 6y ago
  So it is success to make viewer to feel my phone is too old to browsing and want a new phone.

TheCapn 6y ago

From the very initial scroll through things, I'm not impressed. Now I'm not a habitual phone upgrader, I tend to replace my phone when the old one wears down or breaks. I bought the Pixel 4 after my Pixel 1 died and was fairly unimpressed overall. Their headlining market points for the Pixel 5 just... aren't that interesting. - 5G: Doesn't really matter to me. 4G is plenty fast for everyday use and I wouldn't try heavy enough streaming off data to even need to increase - Wireless charging: not new - Photos in the dark: not new - Google Assistant: not new... and honestly, kinda crap. I turned off a lot of permissions on my phone and the assistant is virtually useless now. I can't give it commands from the lock screen or do even basic things with it unlocked while driving. At this point I'll probably root and just put a custom ROM on there because nothing google packaged with the phone is all that useful. The battery is nice, but its also not worth a $800 price tag. I think Google needs to stop chasing the iPhone and go back to the Nexus style of simple+good+affordable. Even the 4a seems like a stronger value proposition imo. EDIT: I just noticed that they brought back the fingerpint unlock on the back? Okay, that is a huge plus; the face unlock is a generally shitty feature usability wise. I was kinda upset when I gave up wireless charging for the Pixel 1 but fell in love with the fingerprint unlock on the back. When I went to Pixel 4 and lost the fingerprint in exchange for Wireless charging I kinda felt like I made a poor choice. Now that they finally combined the two I'll give them credit.

wegs 6y ago
I would add that honest specs would help. I'd like to know sensor size. Not "pixel width." Sensor size+aperture, to a first order, is what you want to know about a camera.
- SketchySeaBeast 6y ago
  It's all useless. With a regular camera, absolutely, but I don't think the Pixel has changed its sensor since the 2? It's all post-processing improvements.
faitswulff 6y ago
I think the only new things I saw were the ultrawide lens and the lighting effects in Google Photos, which were neat but not breathtaking.

jaflo 6y ago

> And with Hold for Me, Google Assistant waits on hold for you and lets you know when someone's on the line. This seems like a pretty cool feature. I used to be on Android and remember Google making calls on my behalf for reservations, but this feature is done on-device it seems.

Farbklex 6y ago
I expect that the operators on the other end will just hang up on you when you don't answer within 5 seconds.
jumelles 6y ago
Yeah, this is the only thing that jumped out to me as a new and useful idea. Hopefully Apple eventually does something similar.

kevindeasis 6y ago

Please take off the parallax, its really painful to use. I would love to switch from ios to android. I actually want to move back to an android device. My dilemma is, i want an apple credit card (or something similar) and better cameras compared to apple

Arelius 6y ago
> i want an apple credit card (or something similar) Why an apple credit card? Like, when you say "something similar" what would apply?
- kevindeasis 6y ago
  Anything that would give me all of this and lets me use android and give me a nice looking platinum card. Or an app that will let me use my apple credit card in android https://www.apple.com/apple-card/ https://www.apple.com/apple-card/

csours 6y ago

Hmm. Very tempted to trade in my 4 for this, and I'd much rather have fingerprint unlock than face unlock. It's cheaper than the 4 and has a bigger battery. I'm sure the cameras are at least adequate. Is it worse than the 4 in any way? I don't know how to compare the Qualcomm® Snapdragon™ 765G with Octa-Core in the Pixel 5 to the Qualcomm® Snapdragon™ 855* with Octa-Core in the Pixel 4. I wonder if Google Fi is going to do anything special with 5G? I haven't noticed any particular announcements. Edit: pulled the trigger. I'm so glad they went out of stock on the regular google store, because that reminded me to buy it on the Fi store, where I got better trade in value, and the green one is available.

zoeey123 6y ago
855 is much more powerful

maxioatic 6y ago

The simple fact that this has an aluminum body will make me upgrade to it eventually. I'm super tired of glass backed phones because I have broken every single one I've ever owned.

knotty66 6y ago

In the UK at least - you get a pair of very nice Bose QC 35 IIs (RRP £299) free, if you buy soon. These are selling on eBay for £200 currently, though I'm sure that price will drop a bit once the market gets flooded. If you do sell at that price though, that brings the price of the phone down to £399, and at that price it is a steal. The Pixel 4a is a great phone for £350, and this brings a bigger battery, faster CPU, 5G, wide-angle lens, 90hz screen, wireless charging, water resistance, and 2GB more memory for an extra £50 if you are able to offload the headphones.

nsriv 6y ago

Discrepancy in pricing between North American Pixel 5 and European/International Pixel 5 seems to be because the North American version includes mmWave.

_emacsomancer_ 6y ago

128Gb storage & no sdcard slot?

DocG 6y ago

Last two years have been difficult for me when choosing new phone. It's been, what am I willing to downgrade? Is it camera options, quality or screen resolution, headphone jack, battery life etc. This year's pixels fixed the cameras and fingerprint sensor luckily, but screen sizes and resolutions are downgrade :( Seriously considering note 9 before it's too old...

meerita 6y ago

I wish the big companies stop doing parallax websites.

lmilcin 6y ago

My initial thought: somebody went to town with that scroll. I mean, well prepared marketing page should cause me to think about the product, hopefully favorably, not about completely pointless misuse of scrollbar that some web designer with a huge workstation probably could run fluidly.

kushalpandya 6y ago

Pixel 5 is everything Pixel 4 should've been, this is essentially a last year's phone with processor that's also as fast as last year's flagship processor. And none of it is bad in any way, $699 of asking price is appropriate. What's sad is that Pixel phones even after 5 generations have had at least one tragic flaw which would be a deal breaker for many; - Pixel 1 - Giant bezels - Pixel 2 - OLED burn-in and color issues - Pixel 3 - Gigantic notch - Pixel 4 - Radar which still isn't proven to be useful, no ultrawide camera. This is first time that Google made a flagship phone (3a and 4a are still midrange) that doesn't have any obvious flaws, so I hope it changes fate of Pixel line for good.

krzyk 6y ago
> [..] this is essentially a last year's phone with processor that's also as fast as last year's flagship processor. CPU is 16% slower than Pixel 3 one, so two generations back.
- MrDresden 6y ago
  I'll take that reduction in raw processing power for better battery life any day. This is a phone after all
neogodless 6y ago
The Pixel 3 has no notch, though I'm guessing the XL does. (I'm on a Pixel 3 now!) Spouse has 2 XL which I think I like a pinch better than my 3 but not enough to switch out. I went from a Nexus 6P and this is definitely better but also not an overwhelming upgrade. Just happy to resume getting updates and have a great camera. The 4 and 5 do not interest me, and "latest updates" is not nearly the value proposition it was 5 years ago (or maybe I'd miss it...?) So I definitely expect my next phone to be non-Google like OnePlus or maybe Motorola.
- JeremyNT 6y ago
  I went from a Pixel 2 to the OnePlus 6t. If you are used to the pixel series, prepare to be disappointed by the "value add" brought to android by other vendors. This device is supposed to be close to "vanilla" android, but it still has several annoying modifications that make it worse than the devices Google sells directly. Newer OnePlus devices have even more extensive changes, too. I doubt I'll every buy a non-google Android phone again. The software and update story of the Pixel series is still the real compelling value there, and it's worth the premium.

chmod775 6y ago

I look at these phone announcements nowadays and realize I don't care about any of their value propositions. The phones sold 5 or 6 years ago were good enough on any of those metrics by my standards: I look at my 5 year old phone, look at the new ones, and realize that just the hassle of setting a new one up wouldn't be worth it. Also they need to scrap all the Google software crap like "Google Assistant" out of their marketing. I have yet to meet someone who would consider anything like that a feature. People expect it to be an annoyance at best - that's those who don't give a fuck about privacy.

thirtythree 6y ago
I agree with you but set up of a new phone is pretty simple if you move Android->Android or iPhone->iPhone. Your google or apple account should sync everything
foolfoolz 6y ago
for most people phones have reached the same peak as laptops: only buy a new one if yours breaks
jfengel 6y ago
The Pixel phone setup was very, very good. It copied all of the data off my old phone and was off and running. I don't even think I had to re-enter passwords. I like the Google assistant. It's useful for "set timer 15 minutes" while my hands are dirty from cooking. (I had an even better use, "Remind me at 8 PM to take out the trash" while I'm driving, but for some idiotic reason "Reminders are currently not available for GSuite users"[1]). [1] https://support.google.com/assistant/thread/11607814?hl=en https://support.google.com/assistant/thread/11607814?hl=en

aerique 6y ago

But does it run SailfishOS?

karim79 6y ago

I want this, and not a > 1000 euro phone with no headset, compulsory face recognition, and an AI supercomputer chip with a battery which last half a day. Half of the phones to come out over the last 5 years felt like they were engaged in a useless gimmickry arms race and it's a really clever move to be the first to pull the plug on that trend IMO. I for one was not expecting it. Of course, I'm not going to buy because I have both the 3XL (this phone, best phone ever IMO, indestructible and does the things I need well) and the 4XL which I don't use as face unlock was annoying to begin with and now, simply put, useless. In a year where company execs can, for instance, present a watch and with a straight face say "up to 18 hours battery life" I like to think that these guys brought some sanity to the table. They figured out what people care about, refined those elements and dumped the rest of the useless crap. Who actually uses AR apart from a few pokemon players and some other niche uses, who cares about a 5% better camera when all cameras are amazing, and who wants to pay >1000, when phones have reached a reasonable performance level in any category. Which phones of the last three years are too slow? It feels like the grown-up version of the smart phone. One size offering which falls in the sweet spot, amazing camera, fast refresh display, the only biometric that people actually like, and it's waterproof. Face recognition is dead in the water, unless the law becomes having QR codes on face masks. That's why my pixel 4XL is still new and unused. Additionally, a lot of people have less disposable income in light of recent events. My pixel 3XL is still great so I'll hold off for now, but I'm super happy to see this type of "evolution". Just my ten cents.

Dahoon 6y ago
I'm not sure this is a trend breaker. OnePlus seems to do the same.

krzyk 6y ago

No Face Unlock :( This was my single reason to swich from Pixel 3 to Pixel 4. And now they removed it and put a CPU/GPU that is slower than in Pixel 3.

xyse53 6y ago
I respect your preference but I think you're in a minority on face vs fingerprint, not even adjusting for covid facemasks.
- krzyk 6y ago
  I wonder why. (In my case fingerprint scanner was forgetting my fingers in a week or my fingers changed in a week when summer ended - the only clue I got is that during winter skin gets dryer and might influence scanner readings, it was very frustrating) I was hoping that Apples push for that would force other manufacturers to adapt it also.
  - jfengel 6y ago
    It doesn't forget my fingers, but it won't let me in if my hands are very damp (like after a shower). Though I do get some sour grapes out of the fact that it's not a bad idea to force me to enter my PIN once in a while, so I don't forget.
  - int_19h 6y ago
    For most users, the fingerprint sensor on Pixels works reliably - and when it does, it's also very convenient, because your finger pretty much lands in the exact right spot when pulling it out of the pocket.

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vilifiedtwin 6y ago

The most important feature in a phone I think is the call recording. If I have a conversation with my doctor, sometimes I like to re-listen to it in case I got the dosage of medication wrong or misunderstood something. I also record all calls with my parents. They are very old now and I want to keep their voice. I learned that recent Android versions have call recording disabled because Google claims it is illegal to record someone without their knowledge (and at the same time they don't disable the cameras). It is legal in my country though and it shouldn't be up to Google to decide. So my question is - is it possible to record calls on Pixel 5? I am in the market for a new phone, but I keep reading conflicting reports that likely call recording is disabled.

hourislate 6y ago

$699.00 for a mobile with old specs and at least $100 more than something like an Oneplus 8. https://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=10386&idPhone2=10161&idPhone3=10420 https://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=10386&idPhone... Am I missing something? Will people actually buy this?

simonsarris 6y ago
I'm a hobby photographer and I already pre-ordered the Pixel 5. I suspect there will be no comparison in the picture quality. However I also edit big, 47MP jpegs from my Leica on my Pixel 2XL and amusingly I'm not sure if it will be faster or slower to edit on the Pixel 5, given the processor. Alas the 2XL has cracked in 3 corners and is held together by tape, so to the 5 I go.

stronglikedan 6y ago

I really hope I can move all non-notification icons (and clock) to the right side of the screen, so I can tell when I have a notification at a glance. That was the most frustrating change introduced by the notch for me, and from the screenshots, it looks like it persists even without the notch.

ur-whale 6y ago

As usual, the site only works for US IPs

canada_dry 6y ago

How is it that 5 hasn't shown up on MKBHD's channel?? Did he piss off the Pixel team with saying that 4 was "a massive victim of its own hype"?

srg0 6y ago

So, the non extendable 128 GB is the only storage option in 2020? What else should we expect, battery issues and the model being discontinued in less than 12 months?

fomine3 6y ago
It's 5G unlimited era and Google operates Google Photo and Drive, that's the answer.

martinflack 6y ago

Incidentally, for anyone who works in consumer hardware, is there usually any stock in the "I'll wait a few months for a later batch in case they fix some hardware problems" approach some people take?

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dzonga 6y ago

seems phones, want to be cameras these days. we've had cameras for 100s of years. yet all phone marketing is about, the phone being a camera, not being good at being a phone. at least with spam screening my pixel 3a does a somewhat okay job at being a phone. and for the camera part, film cameras I still good. I use one that I bought on ebay for 25$.

commoner 6y ago

PassMark benchmark scores for Pixel phones: Google Pixel / XL: 1,893 / 2,285 Google Pixel 2 / 2 XL: 5,556 / 5,402 Google Pixel 3 / 3 XL: 6,359 / 6,934 Google Pixel 4 / 4 XL: 8,722 / 8,656 Google Pixel 3a / 3a XL: 5,334 / 5,088 Google Pixel 4a: 6,476 The following phones use the same Snapdragon 765G SoC as the Pixel 5: Motorola Edge (4-6GB RAM): 6,717 OnePlus Nord (8GB / 12GB RAM): 7,036 / 7,190 With 8GB RAM, the Pixel 5 should have a performance score comparable to the Pixel 3 XL. https://www.androidbenchmark.net/device_list.php https://www.androidbenchmark.net/device_list.php

AFlyingBoom 6y ago

I think the price is pretty reasonable but the hidden cost of owning this phone is that you'd be handing Google more data about yourself they could ever collect by other means.

fomine3 6y ago

It's not so fun but it looks like great for daily use. * lightweight 151g even though it support 5G and battery is increased. * 8GB of RAM (Pixel 4 was fewer 6GB even high-end) * Fingerprint auth again! Currently I don't want 5G because it increases weight by adding antennas and battery capacity but not much value compared to faster 4G. Anyway, 4G high-end devices are no longer released so this is an acceptable device with 5G.

nikolay 6y ago

So underspec'd that it hurts...

me_me_me 6y ago

I was holding out for the Pixel 5 to be released. Its a huge disappointment. I ended up buying my first choice Oneplus Nord.