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> How many open Trump supporters do you interact with a week? As I said, about 5-8 depending on how active my group chats are. Why would I tell my coworkers I

> How many open Trump supporters do you interact with a week? As I said, about 5-8 depending on how active my group chats are. Why would I tell my coworkers I'm voting for Trump? I'm not going to. So yes I would feel uncomfortable lying. I don't think this is the same as bush era politics. How can I exist with coworkers while we do anti racist book clubs, and then announce support for the man who calls black protesters thugs? We don't have room for racism at my company. That's only a political issue because the republican party nominated a racist - I don't see how that's our problem.

aty268 6y ago
It's interesting how you think you've solely 'escaped' the bubble, and yet I bet I can guess your beliefs on almost every major point after this comment, as well as your race, age, and income. Want some help? How can I exist with co-workers who think every point of inequality is systemic racism and white supremacy, Trump supporter's are all trailer park hicks, 97% of the protests are peaceful, believe that just because of your skin color you shouldn't be called a thug for looting, believe Trump colluded with the Russians despite 0 evidence, think Flynn deserves to be in prison, think Trump isn't helping the black community...
- komali2 6y ago
  Systemic racism is real but I don't even know what "every point of inequality" means. Uhhh isn't palmer luckey a Trump supporter? And Kanye west? Plus a bunch of rich old folks back home. Lol obviously not all Trump supporters are trailer park (do you mean poor?), My experience at protests in LA alone would make it absurd to believe that. Thug is a racist dog whistle. Is property damage an improper response to murder? Yet conservatives defend a kid that committed murder after traveling to protests to "protect property," so I guess murder is an appropriate response to property damage. Are you not reading reports from yesterday wherein intelligence community members are warning congress about russian influence in the upcoming election? You make me suspect the only "evidence" you'll accept is Putin being caught with his fingers literally in the guts of a voting machine. Trump passed a couple democrat written prison reform bills that vaguely helped the black community, but his DOJ is specifically targeting those early release people for reconviction, so it's moot. I don't really care about Flynn. I guess I don't fit into the clean little Other that Rupert murdoch defined for you?
  - logicchains 6y ago
    >Is property damage an improper response to murder? Maybe property damage might be a proper response to murder, _if it was the property of the murderer_ (the police), as opposed to random small business nearby, many owned by minorities.
    - komali2 6y ago
      I know. It's a shame the police keep responding to peaceful protests with extraordinary state-sponsored violence, forcing people to go to the extremes to make their voice heard.
logicchains 6y ago
>How can I exist with coworkers while we do anti racist book clubs, and then announce support for the man who calls black protesters thugs? Have you not seen the videos of "peaceful protestors" literally smashing and burning down buildings? Committing indiscriminate property destruction and arson makes people thugs, regardless of the colour of their skin.
- komali2 6y ago
  Thug is historically a racist dog whistle. Ignorance of this, pretended or otherwise, isn't a valid defense. I saw a couple videos of burning buildings, sure. I had trouble caring though, because the only places that happened in are the ones where soldier cops got insanely abusive with peaceful protesters. The onus is on the state to back down, not the people. Did you see video of out of state proud boys driving in armed caravans to protest areas, paintballing and pepper spraying indiscriminately?
  - logicchains 6y ago
    >Thug is historically a racist dog whistle Really? I'm a native English speaker, albeit not American, and I've never heard thug implied to have racist connotations. The original word comes from a Hindi word for criminal, which was also used for a violent cult: "Devotees of the goddess Kali, the Thugs waylaid and strangled their victims, usually travellers, in a ritually prescribed manner. They were suppressed by the British in the 1830s." >I had trouble caring though, because the only places that happened in are the ones where soldier cops got insanely abusive with peaceful protesters. How does the police being abusive make it okay for the rioters to burn down random buildings?
    - edmundsauto 6y ago
      > How does the police being abusive make it okay for the rioters to burn down random buildings? It doesn't absolve any responsibility, but if you take a step back - the police behavior was the indirect and sometimes direct cause of the other symptom.
    - 6y ago

aty268 6y ago

It's interesting how you think you've solely 'escaped' the bubble, and yet I bet I can guess your beliefs on almost every major point after this comment, as well as your race, age, and income. Want some help? How can I exist with co-workers who think every point of inequality is systemic racism and white supremacy, Trump supporter's are all trailer park hicks, 97% of the protests are peaceful, believe that just because of your skin color you shouldn't be called a thug for looting, believe Trump colluded with the Russians despite 0 evidence, think Flynn deserves to be in prison, think Trump isn't helping the black community...

komali2 6y ago
Systemic racism is real but I don't even know what "every point of inequality" means. Uhhh isn't palmer luckey a Trump supporter? And Kanye west? Plus a bunch of rich old folks back home. Lol obviously not all Trump supporters are trailer park (do you mean poor?), My experience at protests in LA alone would make it absurd to believe that. Thug is a racist dog whistle. Is property damage an improper response to murder? Yet conservatives defend a kid that committed murder after traveling to protests to "protect property," so I guess murder is an appropriate response to property damage. Are you not reading reports from yesterday wherein intelligence community members are warning congress about russian influence in the upcoming election? You make me suspect the only "evidence" you'll accept is Putin being caught with his fingers literally in the guts of a voting machine. Trump passed a couple democrat written prison reform bills that vaguely helped the black community, but his DOJ is specifically targeting those early release people for reconviction, so it's moot. I don't really care about Flynn. I guess I don't fit into the clean little Other that Rupert murdoch defined for you?
- logicchains 6y ago
  >Is property damage an improper response to murder? Maybe property damage might be a proper response to murder, _if it was the property of the murderer_ (the police), as opposed to random small business nearby, many owned by minorities.
  - komali2 6y ago
    I know. It's a shame the police keep responding to peaceful protests with extraordinary state-sponsored violence, forcing people to go to the extremes to make their voice heard.

logicchains 6y ago

>How can I exist with coworkers while we do anti racist book clubs, and then announce support for the man who calls black protesters thugs? Have you not seen the videos of "peaceful protestors" literally smashing and burning down buildings? Committing indiscriminate property destruction and arson makes people thugs, regardless of the colour of their skin.

komali2 6y ago
Thug is historically a racist dog whistle. Ignorance of this, pretended or otherwise, isn't a valid defense. I saw a couple videos of burning buildings, sure. I had trouble caring though, because the only places that happened in are the ones where soldier cops got insanely abusive with peaceful protesters. The onus is on the state to back down, not the people. Did you see video of out of state proud boys driving in armed caravans to protest areas, paintballing and pepper spraying indiscriminately?
- logicchains 6y ago
  >Thug is historically a racist dog whistle Really? I'm a native English speaker, albeit not American, and I've never heard thug implied to have racist connotations. The original word comes from a Hindi word for criminal, which was also used for a violent cult: "Devotees of the goddess Kali, the Thugs waylaid and strangled their victims, usually travellers, in a ritually prescribed manner. They were suppressed by the British in the 1830s." >I had trouble caring though, because the only places that happened in are the ones where soldier cops got insanely abusive with peaceful protesters. How does the police being abusive make it okay for the rioters to burn down random buildings?
  - edmundsauto 6y ago
    > How does the police being abusive make it okay for the rioters to burn down random buildings? It doesn't absolve any responsibility, but if you take a step back - the police behavior was the indirect and sometimes direct cause of the other symptom.
  - 6y ago