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Dune Official Trailer

148 points by 0-_-0 6y ago

0-_-0 6y ago
I must not fear. Fear is the mind-killer. Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration. I will face my fear. I will permit it to pass over me and through me. And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path. Where the fear has gone there will be nothing. Only I will remain.
peter303 6y ago
Chalamet's Paul seems to lack the unshakeable self-confidence of McLaughlin's Paul from the few seconds I saw in the trailer. Paul should not wince during gob-jabber. Nor should he grimace in pain or fear in battle.
- SQueeeeeL 6y ago
  Isn't the whole point to Paul is that he realizes how screwed he is about half way through book 1 (causing space genocide) and just endlessly runs from his own destiny and hides away in his castle for all of book 2.
  - rcarmo 6y ago
    technically, he actually hid away by faking his death and traipsing around as a blind beggar, but I see your point about "hiding" in plain sight :)
- mustntmumble 6y ago
  In the book it described Paul feeling almost unbearable pain, almost to the point where he was pushed too far, but the Priestess turned off the gom-jabbar just in time. Wincing was the last of Pauls problems at that moment... Paul was not a cold robotic person - he was subject to great emotions all the way through the book. Also: https://i.ytimg.com/vi/QrCfivcQe48/hqdefault.jpg https://i.ytimg.com/vi/QrCfivcQe48/hqdefault.jpg
  - stevekemp 6y ago
    In the book it is revealed that the tester gave him _more_ pain than she'd ever used on any previous test. She almost wanted him to fail.
  - otachack 6y ago
    Just a note: the gom jabbar is the poisonous needle while the box was the pain component of the humanity test.
- jariel 6y ago
  Yes, what you are sensing is something much deeper though. People are much less serious and more affable, gregarious than they were even 50 years ago - and it comes out in everything, dialogue, disposition. You can tell immediately, before they say a line, it's how they stand, and in their faces. Go and look at 'Grand Moff Wilhuff Tarkin' - the big baddie from from Star Wars who very confidently dismissed and told off Darth Vader ("Enough of this. Vader, release him!"). This guy would embody the quasi-aristocratic head of say, the East India Company Governor back in the day. A kind of cold, callous, calculating CEO, who's involved in war, blood, serious repercussions etc.. English stage actors have the ability to do this. Most of the cast of Lynch's Dune were well trained actors, and Kyle MacLachlan just had a very special air about him.
- specialist 6y ago
  Chalamet's Hal in The King is just perfect. He's the only reason I'm interested in watching this Dune. https://www.imdb.com/title/tt7984766/ https://www.imdb.com/title/tt7984766/
metroholografix 6y ago
All the Villeneuve movies that I've seen, whilst technically impressive, lack something fundamental and come across as sterile. In Tarkovskian terms, they have no soul. This looks to be more of the same.
- cdmckay 6y ago
  I feel all his movies post-Arrival have that feeling. Before that I loved his work.
  - orange3xchicken 6y ago
    In contrast, I have really enjoyed & have found many things likable abt all his movies. Also worth noting that afaik, all his movies post-Arrival just consists of BR2049.
- forgot_account 6y ago
  Sterile and soulless? Even Sicario?
  - copperx 6y ago
    Especially Sicario.
    - tomcam 6y ago
      Wut? Pretty sure you're a misdirected Russian bot ;) Seriously, Sicario flet sterile to you?
- xiaolingxiao 6y ago
  Even blade runner? I felt like it was quite impactful from an emotional level. He does approach subjects where the characters are rational though.
- bmitc 6y ago
  Have you seen any of his movies prior to Arrival and Sicario? Incendies, Enemy, and Prisoners are all quite emotional in distinct ways. Although, I personally feel Arrival was definitely emotional in its own way.
credit_guy 6y ago
The trailer ends with "Only in Theaters". What does this mean? Did Warner Bros decide to wait it out until theaters open again, or this was just an oversight ?
- mugwort13 6y ago
  It means they all know in Hollywood that this lockdown ends November 4.
- shishy 6y ago
  Moves are coming out in Theatres, not sure if people are going... I think Tenet came out recently
  - saberdancer 6y ago
    I'm in EU, I watched Tenet in theatre. It's a nice experience, lot of room, very few people, you can order everything online. They even reserve an empty seat on each side of your tickets to help with social distancing.
- withinboredom 6y ago
  Theaters have been open where I live in the EU for quite some time. I haven't been, and capacity is reduced (to provide proper spacing), but they're open.
incog_nit0 6y ago
Noticed that Paul Atreides says 'There's a crusade coming' in the trailer. In the book they specifically use the word 'jihad' repeatedly and the book draws from a variety of influences in the Middle East. I hope they haven't toned things down too much for a modern audience. Part of what made the book so special was its vocabulary.
- jhallenworld 6y ago
  Perhaps saying that the Missionaria Protectiva is behind Christian instead of Islamic beliefs is more provocative.. But I agree with you about the vocabulary. I recommend George Alec Effinger's Marîd Audran series for more of this.. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/When_Gravity_Fails https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/When_Gravity_Fails
  - tstrimple 6y ago
    > Effinger started work on a fourth Audran novel, Word of Night, but died before that work was completed. I've had enough unfinished sci-fi epics for the year thank you.
- xiaolingxiao 6y ago
  Yeah I caught that too. The whole book was a critique of colonialism, unsustainable capitalism, and deconstruction of the white savior complex. I hope he doesn’t shy away from these subjects.
- rchase 6y ago
  Nice catch. No judgment yet, but feels like bowdlerization to me. https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/bowdlerize https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/bowdlerize
- everdumb 6y ago
  I imagine they will have to do so. I cannot see how having a major antagonist group that uses women as breeding equipment and plot to undermine and take over the entire galaxy that traces its origins to Islam will be palpable for a modern commercial enterprise.
ilaksh 6y ago
For some reason I don't remember Dune being about a massive war.
- mprev 6y ago
  The first novel is the build up to a massive war.
  - fjfaase 6y ago
    And Herbert skips over all the details of that massive war. You go from one chapter describing the start of the war to the next chapter of Alia standing before Baron when most of the action has taken place. Anyway, that is at the end of the novel, which will not be included in this movie. So, I guess the clips shown are from the arrival on Arrakis and the battle that took place during the night to overthrow the Artreidies, which in the book is described as a relatively short battle and also not in much detail.
    - otachack 6y ago
      Right, and it makes sense given the perspectives the reader gets around those events.
dugditches 6y ago
Not really digging it. Really liked Lynch's, even though it's a bit off in a few aspects(weirding way changes, trying to 1:1 a book:movie, etc). But just the amount of passion and effort that went into it(costumes, practical effects, sets, etc). How strange and unique everything was and looked. This really just feels like a SciFi paintjob on a modern SuperHero movie. Kind of sterile. Also not really feeling the StillSuit's looking like motorcycle and airsoft gear slapped together. Versus the old rubber looking ones in the original.
- petermcneeley 6y ago
  It is the dialog. There is not one drop of Dune in it.
  - orange3xchicken 6y ago
    I'm not sure I agree. They have taken some liberties with the dialogue, but many of the quotes in the trailer are near-direct from the novel. Anyways this seems like something that would be hard to tell from what little the trailer offered in terms of talking. Just from the trailer, this seems like it will at least be more faithful to the source than the Lynch version.
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- almostdeadguy 6y ago
  Totally agree, this looks like it'll be missing everything that's weird and wonderful about Dune. Lynch's Dune can be bewildering coming at it without the context of the book, but that aspect of it is frankly just something you get used to with Lynch's works, and like you said its filled with so much oddness and detail. The hulking Heighliner spacecrafts, the mutated ghoulish guild navigator, the fascinating cave-like imperial palace set, the manic cyst-covered Harkonnens. I've never understood why it gets a bad rap, I think it's a hugely underrated film that did a wonderful job capturing the strange universe of Dune.
  - 6y ago
Havoc 6y ago
That seems promising. Couple of odd bits, but to be expected I guess.
gautamcgoel 6y ago
The sandworms look amazing. I really like how they have these wispy "tusks" in their mouths instead of teeth.
willcipriano 6y ago
I've always felt you can't do Dune in a single movie, the world is just too big. I'd say it has to be a minimum of two or three parts to really tell the story.
- nutshell89 6y ago
  This film will cover the first half of the first book in the saga.
  - willcipriano 6y ago
    ahh great, that will improve things I think. The first movie attempt just felt so rushed and skipped over so many details.
- defterGoose 6y ago
  Ironically, every sci-fi pundit will tell you that you shouldn't read a book in the trilogy after the first one.
  - PeterStuer 6y ago
    Agree. I read them decades ago and while the first book is a masterpiece, the rest of the series is pretty bad.
    - dunefox 6y ago
      That is absolutely not true. Books 1-6 are great, especially God Emperor of Dune.
      - nix23 6y ago
        >God Emperor of Dune Absolutely!! 2-6 draws a much bigger picture of the universe then just that one single story of book 1.
      - justforyou 6y ago
blackrock 6y ago
To be honest, the premise of the story is pretty retarded. Control of the galaxy is determined by intergalactic space travel, and to do that, you need “The Spice”, which is the shit from these giant sand worms, that are tamed by the locals of that planet. Then, to add further suspension of disbelief, you have a guild of these space folding specialists that uses the power of their brains to conjure up the space warp travel, because apparently a computer system couldn’t handle the complexity of the physics of space travel. The whole premise falls apart, and dwells in nonsense. I can’t imagine what is so good about this story, except that it is some space soap opera from a lost generation trying to make its mark.
- scoutt 6y ago
  > because apparently a computer system couldn’t handle the complexity of the physics of space travel IIRC there is a reason for that: most computer systems were destroyed and their use, banned.
- tenbino 6y ago
  It’s fiction, not a documentary.
- SigmundA 6y ago
  Sorry to me its actually a pretty good premise that was ahead of its time when written in the 60's. It was interesting and very different to imagine a far future where there is great technology but no "thinking machines" due to a previous human machine war (Butlerian Jihad). You see this concept reused in later sci-fi (Terminator, The Matrix). Then exploring how you could replace computers with the human mind given some help (spice).
- sreekotay 6y ago
  You're misremembering (or didn't follow far enough to get?) a few things. The spice prolongs life, in a way they are unable to replicate or otherwise export production of. Production of the Spice also is devastating to the ecology of Arrakis (nee Dune). The natives haven't tamed the worms - but do co-exist with them. The Houses exploit both however, and the planet itself. The guild navigators value is NOT they can perform computations machines cannot - it's NOT a complexity problem. Some spoilers so I will be oblique, but their ability is tied directly to what the Bene Gesserit are trying to breed. And to what Paul is/his abilities are. It's inherently an "organic"/meat-puppet power - as it is implied it's tied to forebears and progeny... And finally, as noted, there is a deeply held proscription against "thinking machines" due to an... event. This actually isn't HUGELY relevant, but allows Herbert to eschew futorology in favor of his allegory. The story's GREAT :) (especially up to and including Book 4, which completes a full arc.)
dusted 6y ago
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CcZPZGq3Zy8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CcZPZGq3Zy8 1984 version looks better, even in the side-by-side trailer. I'll just watch that one again.
- schwartzworld 6y ago
  Have you read the books? The Lunch version is fun and weird, but it butchers the story line. The miniseries with William Hurt is way better.
- hbosch 6y ago
  The designer David Rudnick has a term he uses for this aesthetic of modern sci-fi: "future without art"[0]. The hazy, dark, washed out palettes being used the portray the concept of "dystopian future" are truly underwhelming and I think he term makes sense -- why must ALL modern sci-fi movies just be mixtures of shiny plastic and grime? It makes me appreciate Luc Besson so much more. 0. https://twitter.com/David_Rudnick/status/1249834809138053121 https://twitter.com/David_Rudnick/status/1249834809138053121
Dowwie 6y ago
The Dune subreddit community (/r/dune) organized a discord server featuring two reading clubs that will begin book 1 very soon. One club is for first timers and the other for those who are re-reading and potentially spoiling in discussion. There's something unusual about this and thought it was worth sharing here. People are very passionate about the Dune stories and are desperate for a remake worthy of the book. I hope that the film can meet expectations.
stevekemp 6y ago
The 1984 trailer, for comparison: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KwPTIEWTYEI https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KwPTIEWTYEI
TinkersW 6y ago
Looks promising, hope covid19 doesn't kill any chance of the 2nd half of the book being filmed :/
Mobius01 6y ago
One aspect of the original novel: Frank Herbert is rather terse on his descriptions of the environment, world and universe, leaving a lot for the reader to imagine. He excels at world building without being prescriptive, I think it’s a strength in the novel and allows for a certain timelessness. Lynch’s film production design was pulled out of nowhere and it isn’t any more accurate than Villeneuve’s. It just has a more direct relation between the subject - a future space feudal society - which most people correlate with pomp and elaborate visual motifs. In fact, if you consider the only visual work based on Dune that Herbert himself endorsed, it recalls the the newer film more than the baroque aesthetics of the former - the work of John Schoenherr for an illustrated edition of the novel: http://ski-ffy.blogspot.com/2010/08/illustrated-dune.html http://ski-ffy.blogspot.com/2010/08/illustrated-dune.html

148 points by 0-_-0 6y ago

I must not fear. Fear is the mind-killer. Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration. I will face my fear. I will permit it to pass over me and through me. And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path. Where the fear has gone there will be nothing. Only I will remain.

peter303 6y ago

Chalamet's Paul seems to lack the unshakeable self-confidence of McLaughlin's Paul from the few seconds I saw in the trailer. Paul should not wince during gob-jabber. Nor should he grimace in pain or fear in battle.

SQueeeeeL 6y ago
Isn't the whole point to Paul is that he realizes how screwed he is about half way through book 1 (causing space genocide) and just endlessly runs from his own destiny and hides away in his castle for all of book 2.
- rcarmo 6y ago
  technically, he actually hid away by faking his death and traipsing around as a blind beggar, but I see your point about "hiding" in plain sight :)
mustntmumble 6y ago
In the book it described Paul feeling almost unbearable pain, almost to the point where he was pushed too far, but the Priestess turned off the gom-jabbar just in time. Wincing was the last of Pauls problems at that moment... Paul was not a cold robotic person - he was subject to great emotions all the way through the book. Also: https://i.ytimg.com/vi/QrCfivcQe48/hqdefault.jpg https://i.ytimg.com/vi/QrCfivcQe48/hqdefault.jpg
- stevekemp 6y ago
  In the book it is revealed that the tester gave him _more_ pain than she'd ever used on any previous test. She almost wanted him to fail.
- otachack 6y ago
  Just a note: the gom jabbar is the poisonous needle while the box was the pain component of the humanity test.
jariel 6y ago
Yes, what you are sensing is something much deeper though. People are much less serious and more affable, gregarious than they were even 50 years ago - and it comes out in everything, dialogue, disposition. You can tell immediately, before they say a line, it's how they stand, and in their faces. Go and look at 'Grand Moff Wilhuff Tarkin' - the big baddie from from Star Wars who very confidently dismissed and told off Darth Vader ("Enough of this. Vader, release him!"). This guy would embody the quasi-aristocratic head of say, the East India Company Governor back in the day. A kind of cold, callous, calculating CEO, who's involved in war, blood, serious repercussions etc.. English stage actors have the ability to do this. Most of the cast of Lynch's Dune were well trained actors, and Kyle MacLachlan just had a very special air about him.
specialist 6y ago
Chalamet's Hal in The King is just perfect. He's the only reason I'm interested in watching this Dune. https://www.imdb.com/title/tt7984766/ https://www.imdb.com/title/tt7984766/

metroholografix 6y ago

All the Villeneuve movies that I've seen, whilst technically impressive, lack something fundamental and come across as sterile. In Tarkovskian terms, they have no soul. This looks to be more of the same.

cdmckay 6y ago
I feel all his movies post-Arrival have that feeling. Before that I loved his work.
- orange3xchicken 6y ago
  In contrast, I have really enjoyed & have found many things likable abt all his movies. Also worth noting that afaik, all his movies post-Arrival just consists of BR2049.
forgot_account 6y ago
Sterile and soulless? Even Sicario?
- copperx 6y ago
  Especially Sicario.
  - tomcam 6y ago
    Wut? Pretty sure you're a misdirected Russian bot ;) Seriously, Sicario flet sterile to you?
xiaolingxiao 6y ago
Even blade runner? I felt like it was quite impactful from an emotional level. He does approach subjects where the characters are rational though.
bmitc 6y ago
Have you seen any of his movies prior to Arrival and Sicario? Incendies, Enemy, and Prisoners are all quite emotional in distinct ways. Although, I personally feel Arrival was definitely emotional in its own way.

credit_guy 6y ago

The trailer ends with "Only in Theaters". What does this mean? Did Warner Bros decide to wait it out until theaters open again, or this was just an oversight ?

mugwort13 6y ago
It means they all know in Hollywood that this lockdown ends November 4.
shishy 6y ago
Moves are coming out in Theatres, not sure if people are going... I think Tenet came out recently
- saberdancer 6y ago
  I'm in EU, I watched Tenet in theatre. It's a nice experience, lot of room, very few people, you can order everything online. They even reserve an empty seat on each side of your tickets to help with social distancing.
withinboredom 6y ago
Theaters have been open where I live in the EU for quite some time. I haven't been, and capacity is reduced (to provide proper spacing), but they're open.

incog_nit0 6y ago

Noticed that Paul Atreides says 'There's a crusade coming' in the trailer. In the book they specifically use the word 'jihad' repeatedly and the book draws from a variety of influences in the Middle East. I hope they haven't toned things down too much for a modern audience. Part of what made the book so special was its vocabulary.

jhallenworld 6y ago
Perhaps saying that the Missionaria Protectiva is behind Christian instead of Islamic beliefs is more provocative.. But I agree with you about the vocabulary. I recommend George Alec Effinger's Marîd Audran series for more of this.. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/When_Gravity_Fails https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/When_Gravity_Fails
- tstrimple 6y ago
  > Effinger started work on a fourth Audran novel, Word of Night, but died before that work was completed. I've had enough unfinished sci-fi epics for the year thank you.
xiaolingxiao 6y ago
Yeah I caught that too. The whole book was a critique of colonialism, unsustainable capitalism, and deconstruction of the white savior complex. I hope he doesn’t shy away from these subjects.
rchase 6y ago
Nice catch. No judgment yet, but feels like bowdlerization to me. https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/bowdlerize https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/bowdlerize
everdumb 6y ago
I imagine they will have to do so. I cannot see how having a major antagonist group that uses women as breeding equipment and plot to undermine and take over the entire galaxy that traces its origins to Islam will be palpable for a modern commercial enterprise.

ilaksh 6y ago

For some reason I don't remember Dune being about a massive war.

mprev 6y ago
The first novel is the build up to a massive war.
- fjfaase 6y ago
  And Herbert skips over all the details of that massive war. You go from one chapter describing the start of the war to the next chapter of Alia standing before Baron when most of the action has taken place. Anyway, that is at the end of the novel, which will not be included in this movie. So, I guess the clips shown are from the arrival on Arrakis and the battle that took place during the night to overthrow the Artreidies, which in the book is described as a relatively short battle and also not in much detail.
  - otachack 6y ago
    Right, and it makes sense given the perspectives the reader gets around those events.

dugditches 6y ago

Not really digging it. Really liked Lynch's, even though it's a bit off in a few aspects(weirding way changes, trying to 1:1 a book:movie, etc). But just the amount of passion and effort that went into it(costumes, practical effects, sets, etc). How strange and unique everything was and looked. This really just feels like a SciFi paintjob on a modern SuperHero movie. Kind of sterile. Also not really feeling the StillSuit's looking like motorcycle and airsoft gear slapped together. Versus the old rubber looking ones in the original.

petermcneeley 6y ago
It is the dialog. There is not one drop of Dune in it.
- orange3xchicken 6y ago
  I'm not sure I agree. They have taken some liberties with the dialogue, but many of the quotes in the trailer are near-direct from the novel. Anyways this seems like something that would be hard to tell from what little the trailer offered in terms of talking. Just from the trailer, this seems like it will at least be more faithful to the source than the Lynch version.
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almostdeadguy 6y ago
Totally agree, this looks like it'll be missing everything that's weird and wonderful about Dune. Lynch's Dune can be bewildering coming at it without the context of the book, but that aspect of it is frankly just something you get used to with Lynch's works, and like you said its filled with so much oddness and detail. The hulking Heighliner spacecrafts, the mutated ghoulish guild navigator, the fascinating cave-like imperial palace set, the manic cyst-covered Harkonnens. I've never understood why it gets a bad rap, I think it's a hugely underrated film that did a wonderful job capturing the strange universe of Dune.
- 6y ago

Havoc 6y ago

That seems promising. Couple of odd bits, but to be expected I guess.

gautamcgoel 6y ago

The sandworms look amazing. I really like how they have these wispy "tusks" in their mouths instead of teeth.

willcipriano 6y ago

I've always felt you can't do Dune in a single movie, the world is just too big. I'd say it has to be a minimum of two or three parts to really tell the story.

nutshell89 6y ago
This film will cover the first half of the first book in the saga.
- willcipriano 6y ago
  ahh great, that will improve things I think. The first movie attempt just felt so rushed and skipped over so many details.
defterGoose 6y ago
Ironically, every sci-fi pundit will tell you that you shouldn't read a book in the trilogy after the first one.
- PeterStuer 6y ago
  Agree. I read them decades ago and while the first book is a masterpiece, the rest of the series is pretty bad.
  - dunefox 6y ago
    That is absolutely not true. Books 1-6 are great, especially God Emperor of Dune.
    - nix23 6y ago
      >God Emperor of Dune Absolutely!! 2-6 draws a much bigger picture of the universe then just that one single story of book 1.
    - justforyou 6y ago

blackrock 6y ago

To be honest, the premise of the story is pretty retarded. Control of the galaxy is determined by intergalactic space travel, and to do that, you need “The Spice”, which is the shit from these giant sand worms, that are tamed by the locals of that planet. Then, to add further suspension of disbelief, you have a guild of these space folding specialists that uses the power of their brains to conjure up the space warp travel, because apparently a computer system couldn’t handle the complexity of the physics of space travel. The whole premise falls apart, and dwells in nonsense. I can’t imagine what is so good about this story, except that it is some space soap opera from a lost generation trying to make its mark.

scoutt 6y ago
> because apparently a computer system couldn’t handle the complexity of the physics of space travel IIRC there is a reason for that: most computer systems were destroyed and their use, banned.
tenbino 6y ago
It’s fiction, not a documentary.
SigmundA 6y ago
Sorry to me its actually a pretty good premise that was ahead of its time when written in the 60's. It was interesting and very different to imagine a far future where there is great technology but no "thinking machines" due to a previous human machine war (Butlerian Jihad). You see this concept reused in later sci-fi (Terminator, The Matrix). Then exploring how you could replace computers with the human mind given some help (spice).
sreekotay 6y ago
You're misremembering (or didn't follow far enough to get?) a few things. The spice prolongs life, in a way they are unable to replicate or otherwise export production of. Production of the Spice also is devastating to the ecology of Arrakis (nee Dune). The natives haven't tamed the worms - but do co-exist with them. The Houses exploit both however, and the planet itself. The guild navigators value is NOT they can perform computations machines cannot - it's NOT a complexity problem. Some spoilers so I will be oblique, but their ability is tied directly to what the Bene Gesserit are trying to breed. And to what Paul is/his abilities are. It's inherently an "organic"/meat-puppet power - as it is implied it's tied to forebears and progeny... And finally, as noted, there is a deeply held proscription against "thinking machines" due to an... event. This actually isn't HUGELY relevant, but allows Herbert to eschew futorology in favor of his allegory. The story's GREAT :) (especially up to and including Book 4, which completes a full arc.)

dusted 6y ago

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CcZPZGq3Zy8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CcZPZGq3Zy8 1984 version looks better, even in the side-by-side trailer. I'll just watch that one again.

schwartzworld 6y ago
Have you read the books? The Lunch version is fun and weird, but it butchers the story line. The miniseries with William Hurt is way better.
hbosch 6y ago
The designer David Rudnick has a term he uses for this aesthetic of modern sci-fi: "future without art"[0]. The hazy, dark, washed out palettes being used the portray the concept of "dystopian future" are truly underwhelming and I think he term makes sense -- why must ALL modern sci-fi movies just be mixtures of shiny plastic and grime? It makes me appreciate Luc Besson so much more. 0. https://twitter.com/David_Rudnick/status/1249834809138053121 https://twitter.com/David_Rudnick/status/1249834809138053121

Dowwie 6y ago

The Dune subreddit community (/r/dune) organized a discord server featuring two reading clubs that will begin book 1 very soon. One club is for first timers and the other for those who are re-reading and potentially spoiling in discussion. There's something unusual about this and thought it was worth sharing here. People are very passionate about the Dune stories and are desperate for a remake worthy of the book. I hope that the film can meet expectations.

stevekemp 6y ago

The 1984 trailer, for comparison: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KwPTIEWTYEI https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KwPTIEWTYEI

TinkersW 6y ago

Looks promising, hope covid19 doesn't kill any chance of the 2nd half of the book being filmed :/

Mobius01 6y ago

One aspect of the original novel: Frank Herbert is rather terse on his descriptions of the environment, world and universe, leaving a lot for the reader to imagine. He excels at world building without being prescriptive, I think it’s a strength in the novel and allows for a certain timelessness. Lynch’s film production design was pulled out of nowhere and it isn’t any more accurate than Villeneuve’s. It just has a more direct relation between the subject - a future space feudal society - which most people correlate with pomp and elaborate visual motifs. In fact, if you consider the only visual work based on Dune that Herbert himself endorsed, it recalls the the newer film more than the baroque aesthetics of the former - the work of John Schoenherr for an illustrated edition of the novel: http://ski-ffy.blogspot.com/2010/08/illustrated-dune.html http://ski-ffy.blogspot.com/2010/08/illustrated-dune.html